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    The government are running scared of imposing increased income taxation or any tax which they feel will make the island unattractive to the wealthier resident. What they fail to recognise is that it is the ordinary person who provides the skills we need to function as a society, raises families, spends their money here, runs small businesses and creates employment, teaches your kids, fixes your car, heals you when you're sick and generally makes the island work. It is these people who feel the pain of all of these stealth taxes the most!
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    Slightly different response to that of Mr Wild, and his lack of punishment and who held on for another year and 50K, without doing anything for the money!
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    It does seem strange the alcohol is responsible for the deaths of more people than marijuana yet it can be served to you by people in pubs who have no medical training, or purchased at the local supermarket on a Sunday morning straight after church, or even delivered to your door by the caseload. There is no limit on how much you can buy, but if you want to buy some paracetamol to help with your hangover afterwards, they limit you to 32 pills (or whatever it is) in case you want to kill yourself. And alcohol leads to more violent crime that marijuana does. I understand that alcohol is socially acceptable because it has been around for so long, that it is part of the fabric of our society, and I don't really have a problem with that, its the holier than thou attitude of "drugs are bad" is appalling. It leads to people lives being ruined not just from prison sentences for no violent crime, just for using your own stash, but it also leads to dealers hiding their stash in the walls so kids can try it, or even worse, batches of drugs that are too strong (because they are not regulated) that kill people, or cut with other poisons to make more money. I know it can also lead to addiction, but addiction is due to loneliness (apparently), or whatever is in your make up that makes you crave something. Its not the alcohol, or the other drugs that cause it, but everyone is punished because some cannot get enough of the drugs. Anyway, I'm not saying drugs are good, just that sometimes we feel the need to take the edge off, and its only legal to do that with alcohol, not any other drug.
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    In other news - Censorship - please will you start to properly evidence your assertions. The kettle is on, and I can buy more biscuits if necessary for a private exchange of views, but I am sure the other members of the forums will be equally interested to hear how new officers are of poor quality, how their training doesn't come up to the bar, and exactly how the leadership is wanting. Actually, I'm sure the Chief would join us to hear you out, and his biscuit budget runs to much better fare than mine. So please - lets have it, the whole nine yards. If you are on the money, we'll take it on board and learn from it.
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    FFS, give it a rest, will you? And hboy etc. too. I used to think that you made some good, balanced points - but this online campaign between you, hboy and the others is just sad, disappointing and boring. Those are views as a poster, not a mod. Eta - reply to Notwell.
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    It is high time that government departments begin doing what they have been told to do, SAVE money! Not extract as much as they can from those who can ill afford it by imposing annual increases and destroying the quality of life on this island!
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    The police service is for all the right reasons a reflection of society as it is from their ranks that officers are recruited. And for that reason, from time to time, that means that some of us will commit offences or let the side down. We are not automatons, but imperfect human beings doing an extraordinary job, which like it or not, changes you. No recruitment and selection process can ever eradicate that. For the reasons as to why information was weeded that related to the tribunal, please familiarise yourself with the Management of Police Information Authorised Professional Practice. Its such a massive subject we actually have one senior officer doing nothing else than trying to bring us up to compliance. https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/information-management/management-of-police-information/. The Chief was right - and he sets the strategy. I don't see you as an awkward b*gger, although many of our peers on here may disagree. I just see you as an ill-informed commentator whom is clearly disgruntled with the police service. Public Relations is all about improving them, both in strategic and tactical terms, and that is why I hope you will eventually agree to spend some time with us. I'm not sure precisely how your questions 'evidence' anything you are saying, but I'll answer them off the top of my head with a supporting statement; "How many probationary officers have quit the force in the past two years, and for what reasons?" Without pestering HR, its quite a few, maybe approaching double figures. The reasons are invariably that (a) it turns out that it wasn't for them and they quit or (b) they were unlikely to meet the standard required and were therefore dismissed. I therefore consider this somewhat undermines your assertions on the standards of junior service officers. "How many retired officers has the force brought back in in the past 12 months, and at what ranks/positions?" Of the ones I can think of; A retired sergeant who is a Home Office qualified police dog instructor without whom we would be expending c.£70k a year in off island travel for training and re-licensing, as well as not having the dogs and handlers available on a 24 hr basis. A PC who has returned as a First Contact Officer reducing demand on operational staff. A couple of highly experienced financial Crime ex-detectives, who are cheaper than police officers and helping to dig into the mountain of complex investigations. A retired Superintendent who has been brought in to deliver the digital strategy so we didn't have to take an operational senior officer out of the frame for 18 months to do the same job, and a retired Detective Chief Inspector, also on a limited contract, to ensure the case aspect of our new records management system is fit for purpose, again, so we didn't have to take an operational one out of the game. There might be more but I can't think of any at present. "If your recruitment is of such a high standard and the quality of recruits so high, why are you having to look off-Island for detectives, why are you bringing back retired officers ?" Good detectives are made, not born. Every now and then we drop into a bit of an abyss with the skills and service profile of the force. It happened when I was running recruitment in '03 and has recently happened again. Training costs for detectives are massive, and being able to attract already experienced and accredited ones is a bit of a coup because (a) it saves money, (b) it means we can serve the public better and (c) there is a bit of a national shortage in the UK as well. And we have, as earlier stated, brought some retired detectives back into Financial Crime because of the skills needed and the amount of work that is on. This gives young in service officers the time to develop and mature, without being expected to jump into technically complex roles before time. And no, I don't condone drink driving, but I'm acutely aware of the frailty of the human condition. So there you go. I'm not hiding behind any 'rule book' of PR Guru-ship. Bourbons or Custard Creams?
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    I agree, maybe it's an over simplication but the maths behind it isn't that hard. They know what they have to raise, they know what the fuel sales are in monetary terms. All they need to do is work out what percentage of fuel sales = the required revenue, add a small margin for price variances and any behavioural changes and do it. It's GCSE level maths.
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    The whole thing is a reach really. This person hasn't got away with anything, they've resigned their job and they're awaiting sentencing. They've enjoyed no special treatment and there's no indication that the offence was committed in the course of doing their job. It's not been "swept under the carpet", moreso that it's just not a newsworthy story. I'm not sure bandying around the image of this being some sort of alcoholic waster is wise either, without any of the details. I'm not excusing the behaviour at all, drink driving on any level is deplorable, but there's a difference between someone quaffing 10 pints and knowingly getting in a car pissed to go home every day and someone having a rare two glasses of wine at lunch and driving in the evening not realising they're still fractionally over the limit. I don't know which end of the scale this person is so until there's more details, can we not label this person some sort of addict?
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    Yes, everything brought, masterfully, under control.
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    Seems like a sad irony too that synthetic drugs such as spice were only invented as legal highs because the market existed for people who didn't want to break the law and smoke a real spliff....Only for spice etc to be much much worse and is now causing a horrible epidemic....
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    Humans mess up. Always have, always will.
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    Let the anti Police mob bay in anger ! bottom line ... The Police have breathalysed and convicted one of their own, the officer concerned has lost her job within two days and is to appear for sentence ! Seems to me that is enforcing the law fairly and the person concerned is facing a very stiff penalty as well !
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    @ Censorship. I take issue with your reasoning that an officer committing a criminal offence implies that the entire organisation is unprofessional with poor training and leadership. A couple of lads I was in the Army with were convicted of drink driving whilst off duty (in as much as you can be off duty in the forces) and whilst I agree that it was bloody stupid and dangerous it wasn’t a reflection on the organisation and I would certainly have had a frank exchange of views with anyone who implied that because some soldiers did stupid and irresponsible things all soldiers were stupid and irresponsible. These days I work in finance; with my previous UK employer a colleague was convicted of fraud; if anyone were to suggest that I am anything other than 100% honest then we would be having the aforesaid frank exchange of views. If we follow your logic every industry or organisation would be at fault when an individual who works within it commits a criminal offense. What do you do for a living? What organisation do you work for? If one of your colleagues committed a criminal offence would you expect to be criticised and judged by their actions? To suggest that we cannot trust the entire police force not to break the law or uphold it fairly because occasionally police officers commit criminal offences is crass and typical of your anti-police axe grinding. I have a degree of sympathy for anyone who makes a mistake and falls foul of the law especially when they have the decency to hold their hands up to their mistake and no one else was harmed but I think it is right that someone who has shown criminally poor judgement should not continue in a roll that requires them to deal with people who break the law either through making poor decisions or habitually. Two posts in one day; I’m off for a lie down. EDIT: typos.
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    Well except that, if the response that tse quoted above is correct, various people have been warning the FSC and its predecessors for more than two years, as well as other Manx institutions. Financial groups don't normally go from good to bad overnight (however much it may appear like that in the media). So there may have been all sorts of warning signs and opportunity for intervention that were ignored.
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    Pointless. Within a few posts, unless you radically change your style, your new ID will be outed as 'TPFKATJ' Anyway, back to the topic. Weight is a force that acts upon a body (by body I mean the physics sense, rather than your body) due to its presence in a gravitational field. Mass is a measure of how much matter there is. Weight is calculated by multiplying mass by the acceleration due to gravity. On the surface of the earth, this is about 9.8 m/s^2, call it 10 for ease of calculation. So if your mass is 80kg, you weigh 800N - N for Newton, being the SI unit of force. Newton's equation of gravitational attraction is F = G*m1*m2/d^2 - the famous inverse square law that states that the force between two masses is proportional to the product of those masses divided by the square of the distance between them. When one of those masses is the earth, the equation resolves to F=9.8m - unless you're on top of Everest or something when d is increased a bit (by 8000m or so, compared with the the normal value of 6500000 or thereabouts, being my estimate of the radius of the earth in metres) which reduces the figure of 9.8 to about 9.79, so not much difference. This is all an approximation though. Einstein realised that gravitational mass and inertial mass were equal, so that an observer cannot tell the difference between being in a gravitational field or an accelerating frame of reference. From this, the only logical conclusion is that a gravitational 'force' is a consequence of a curvature in 4 dimensional spacetime. So therefore there is no such thing as weight, only a tiny distortion of the space around you due to your mass which appears as a force. Hope this helps!
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    Exactly, we're an ever moving target. It also has naff all to do with the environment or extra spending on our dire road network it's just another desperate attempt to keep the pension money rolling in.
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    nobody seems to mention that if we all got tiny micro cars they'd have to stick road tax up on those to cover their revenue shortfall from the big cars that had gone. when electrics become more mainstream they will be taxed to keep the revenue coming in. it is all about revenue, pollution is just a bollox reason to justify charging even more money to drive on shit roads. the west Baldwin road to druidale and the little London road are potholes connected with bits of tarmac, totally fucking shit, there will be a few bikes on their side TT week down those tracks.
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    The Island is unattractive to most HNWs anyway so I don't know why they're bothering holding back on tax increases. It's hard to see why anyone would want to put up with crap shops, crap airlinks, craps roads to drive their super car on, and crap weather just to save some tax. There is only a limited pool of HNWs we're ever going to get as if it's a choice of here or Monaco, or Bermuda, or Jersey then most won't be coming here anyway even if taxes are lower here than in the other options.
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    So around 15,000 car owners will be paying an extra £30 just to cover Phil Gawne's driveway (The Sloc) +£500K last year, for something that didn't even need doing. The other 35,000 car owners, their increase just covers the £million plus pissed away on fantastical promenade design ventures. Phil Gawne...never come back please.
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    No issue with fair taxes but I do have an issue with the amount of them wasted. Address fairness but address what they are spent on too. I think that is what upsets people more than the level. No fun being ground down with taxes simply to keep others in clover or in none jobs.
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    Proportional taxation in any area has never been IOM's forte though, has it? This argument that those who are now going to be struggling to pay their increased vehicle duty should buy a more expensive, newer vehicle with lower tax is laughable. If they're struggling to pay their car tax now, with what are they going to purchase a newer vehicle - brass buttons? It's the motorised version of "If they have no bread then let them eat cake". Time we had a few tumbrils rolling over here soon.
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    Of course it isn't right but it's all back to arguing black is white again for comedy effect. I assume you maybe use a 4 x 4 to tow a boat or something? So £400 a year is mad for a vehicle that hardly pollutes as it's hardly on the road. If you're parking it on the road that's one thing but if it's parked up it's not using any services or polluting anything of course a fuel duty would make more sense in general as we'd all be paying exactly when we're polluting and tearing up the roads and not for when we aren't. They won't move to a fuel duty though as that requires absolutely no civil servants to run it. You pay for your fuel at the pump and Total or Shell pay a % of that over to Customs every month by DD. No tax disc, no renewal notices, no nothing. It could save a fortune in administrative costs and it's more environmentally friendly as those who use their cars all the time will have to buy smaller more efficient cars, those who can afford to drive bigger cars will do it and pay more, and those who can't afford to change their cars but don't use them that much won't be paying through the nose for not polluting that much.
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    You do have the choice to drive a gas guzzler notty but you pay the tax whether you do or not. That is the main problem I have with this ownership tax. Taxation of vehicles should be proportional to the pollution they produce rather than as an ownership tax unrelated to use. My gas guzzler bought to do a specific job does less than 1000 miles/year and I pay a tenner a week even before I turn the key. Notty's roller skate likely produces more pollution per year yet he pays a pittance. It just ain't right guv.
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    Quite. It's reasonable to expect to be able to dry a roof tile with a blowtorch without it bursting into flames. Whoever allowed those tiles to be fitted should be serving the prison sentence, not the scapegoat roofer imo.
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    That's a pretty good idea actually, I'll look into how we might be able to include that in the sub package. E: Yep, simple to do. Will discuss, thanks for the suggestion.
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    Yes, but you'd also not expect your new smart TV to run up a bill of £1000 in a week because you didn't disable some random and transparent feature hidden deeply in a sub menu several layers deep. Or to be given another bill for £1000 because the option you disabled was re-enabled automatically without your knowledge because of a new billing structure. The majority of elderly people with smartphones don't know or care about some random function it might have that would normally be enabled at no extra cost with any modern company, but has to be disabled with a select few pension-heavy telecoms companies because they are clutching at every source of income they can find whether it be ethical or not.
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    Only Manx people are allowed to call the Isle of Man a shithole "Ah, the Isle of Man is shit" - Manx person "Yeah, it is" - English person "Well, fuck off if you don't like it" - Manx person
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    They say that this Steam Engine demonstration was organised over the previous 9 months by various gov departments- pity they did not let the public know. They are a magnificant sight in all their glory but the promotion by the tourism dept is an extream embarrasment-1st i know is when i am stuck behind them going to Ramsey. Having the mountain road open would have made this a much more sucessfull experience for all and saved the Police a lot of hassle. It is a poor reflection on the tourism dept that a lot of the locals did not know about it, nothing on the various radio web sites that i could see. We have to be doing better than this shambles, there was a general call for joined up gov depts before the last election, does not look like they are holding hands yet.
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    It will be worth watching who supports and who opposes this, come the vote. Given the previous "concerns" voiced about the continual drip of tax increases. Let's see how many members of the nodding dog club we have.
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    Eh? That's not my experience apart from one who is no longer a pilot for that very reason. I think most will not 'go for it' the evening before a duty but i suppose you need to define what makes someone a complete pisshead. Hmmm, maybe. Chemically, alcohol is a simple C2H5OH that the body can metabolise in hours. It's metabolites just give you a hangover. It is however toxic in very high doses and has the ability to kill. That said, in the absence of liver damage, it can't be traced 24-48 hours later. Bottom line is the body is naturally adapted to cope with it except in a huge overdose. THC in cannabis is a complex molecule (C21H30O2) with a phenolic bezene ring and two carbon rings with the odd double bond thrown in. It isn't water soluble and its metabolite is psychoactive. Whilst a high might last a few hours at the most, it can be traced weeks later. However it is very difficult to kill yourself with cannabis. That said the body is not good at completely getting rid of it in the short term as it is not naturally adapted to cope with it. I like the idea that its medical benefits could be really exploited following legalisation but I don't know how you could stop lawyers arguing that the trace in your urine 20 days after use didn't contribute to that accident you have just caused. It's stuff like this that makes acceptability a challenge.
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    A typical lazy government balls up and proof none of them can organize a piss up in a brewery. The kids are off school, the Mountain Road is closed so everyone is crammed onto all the alternative routes to get to and from work, and it's a nice weekend for getting about before the kids go back on Monday - so let's put a load of traction engines on the roads at peak times for several days doing 5 mph in procession. That will be brilliant! People will love that! Its typical of the institutional incompetence that is taking this place down. It's like there is a government competition to only approve and stage the most inconvenient and stupid events that are most likely to piss the Manx public off. There wasn't much advertising of this either so most people were caught completely unaware. With a bit of time and effort, and proper co-ordination, this could have been a good thing that many locals would have come out to watch - but in the end for most people I'm sure it was just a piss boiling nonsensical traffic jam they could well have done without. Is there any other steam fair in the whole UK that let's them drive around on narrow public roads through major towns and villages for days on end clogging up traffic? Surely this was the sort of thing that should have been done up in Jurby and thousands of people could have driven up (and paid) to see them in action on the airfield?
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    Me too. Given the money they've misdirected if not squandered in the last 18 months alone. A fine set of dummy lighthouses as well now, on the new Laxey bridge. To what purpose? They picked a functional design of bridge to allow as much water to flow as possible in the future. So why the pointless and no doubt expensive decorations? This is what pisses taxpayers off.
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    The Police have been seen to treat one of their own the same way they would treat you or i, its a stressfull job and i suppose none of us are perfect. They goes to houses with unexpected deaths and are expected to keep to keep calm. Easy to pick holes, but you are not the one doing a difficult job
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    Most everywhere has a sales tax of some sort. We and UK had it before 1973 in the form of purchase tax. UK also had selective employment tax which imposed a tax on employers in the service sector. VAT is here to stay, it generates too much revenue. post Brexit there may we'll be changes in reverse charge provisions, but who knows. It's moving out of the single market and customs union that may be the bigger issue if there isn't a favourable trade deal.
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    No one knows what brexit means. Everything is speculation.
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    It's the Manx Gas Way. 3 pence, 3 pounds, what's the difference?
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    Terrific news. Here's a most appropriate piece for everyone to ponder their fortune. Beats a science lecture any day.
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    You'd whine if you were paying 50p per mile in road tax when the fuel costs are 23p per mile. And its use is completely irrelevant. It just aint right guv.
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    It's the cumulative effect though. If you can see year on year the way the wind is blowing then these little taxes won't make the difference in isolation. However when everything is considered then you reach a tipping point where people who were wondering about leaving now decide to look into it in a lot more detail and then when circumstances allow then they go. Personally speaking. Businesses disappear, families sell up and the island looks a lot more sparse.
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    I did work in a control room many years ago, and took a call at 3 a.m. on the normal line (not 999) to tell me their house was full of smoke and ask what they should do. Completely taken aback when I asked whether they had considered ringing the fire brigade.
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    I suspect that the police are no longer attracting and retaining enough of the right people because of the expectations, bullshit and hoop jumping that the modern police officer has to face. That's before they have to deal with the public and the great unwashed on Douglas Promenade every weekend, or Johnny Knuckles beating his missus. As with other public sector professions, process has overtaken purpose, and the obsession with systems, strategy, values and procedure has buggered up the job. If I was a copper that pension and lump sum deal would be looking good to me too. Got any jammy dodgers Derek ?
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    It's a little known fact that Hitler played the old Villa Marina in the early 1930's; touring with Chaim Cohen's dance band orchestra. He was featured singer on their Franz Lehar medley and also had a solo spot on banjo. Rudolph Hess played the spoons in the same band until he was sacked.
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    The reason we have only released a 'one line' comment on this at present is because Ms Keegan's case is adjourned for pre-sentence reports. Respecting that due process is what we would do in each and every case regardless of the antecedents of the individual. It is set in policy. We will engage further with the media post-sentencing if required. Ms Keegan is no longer a police officer, and was not at the point she appeared at court.
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    Except that very often it is and it does. Not always but often. Occasional social drinkers no longer drink and drive in my experience. They don’t get to a point of losing that sense of responsible self control. I think it’s typically the difference between the sort of people who have a drink problem vs those who have reached a stage of being chronically alcoholic. eg the kind of alcoholic who drinks most of a bottle of wine themselves most evenings probably excuses that to themselves, makes no effort to hide it- and probably does that once the car is in the garage in my experience. Maybe they like a few pints at lunchtime too. But they still like to think of themselves as the sort of people who “enjoys a drink”. Even though they are squiffy at least a few days every week. Where as the sort of alcoholic who is drinking during the day is probably also trying to hide their drinking from other people. Getting caught for drink driving is often the best thing for them I reckon. -- Most important thing here though is good luck to the person involved. We all know that some jobs are particularly stressful. Even great people make mistakes.
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    OK I'll spell it out for you. Declan spotted that forum users known as Pierrot Lunaire, The Sick Moon, and ManxTaxPayer all had 4682 posts. I commented that I'd noticed this before, in addition to the user known as Keyboarder also having 4682 posts. It is widely suspected that these users are the same person - Keyboarder is before my time on the forum, but there was certainly a similarity in posting styles and content about the other 3 in my opinion. It's interesting that they all stopped posting on the same number. Coincidence or significant? It seems to me that 'La Colombe' is the latest incarnation of this same poster, hence my bet that you would have also finished on 4682 posts, for whatever reason makes that number important for you. Now it's been pointed out though, you probably won't. Interesting too that since Declan posted his screenshot the numbers have changed.
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    Who in their right mind approves flammable roofing tiles, particularly on a hotel or public building, was nothing learned after the Summerland fiasco? Building control must be a joke here????
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    Tories to win by a landslide. Labour hammered. Corbyn to go. UKIP wiped out but Farage finally gets in Lib Dems pick up at least 20 more seats. Tories take seats from SNP in Scotland.
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