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  1. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    I'm afraid I don't believe you that a significant number of people are doing this on busy beaches with adjacent promenades. I also don't think the majority (dog owners or no) would think it reasonable, but that is just a matter of opinion of course. What is not a matter of opinion is that it's illegal ("where the keeper of a dog fails to remove any faeces deposited by the dog") and I'm fairly sure you'd probably both think twice about doing it again if you were caught, fined and named in the media. Or maybe not. I'm not a hater of dogs, or dog owners. Up until last year I was a dog owner (a two bags to one turd type dog at that), and I probably will be again once I get over the last one. However, to me it feels like there has been a discernible shift in public opinion over dog mess in recent years. The perception that some people 'just hate dogs' is probably part of that, but the reality is that virtually nobody 'just hates dogs'. It's mostly people just 'hating irresponsible dog owners' and feeling increasingly empowered to shout about it. I'd guess this type of pressure will eventually follow a similar pattern as it did with smoking, where the noose is just just gradually tightened simply because people do not value the liberties they have enough to respect them. People who abuse their liberties shouldn't be surprised if they're ultimately taken away by the zealous anti everything brigades. Just my opinion of course.
  2. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    Nobody answering my question? Would those who admit to 'temporarily' depositing poo bags do so if there were other people (that they didn't know) in the area at the time so that it would be impossible to go unseen, I wonder?
  3. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    I don't think the majority of dog owners would agree but I guess we'll never know that for sure, and I certainly don't think 'everyone' does it otherwise it would be far worse than it already is - which would indicate that the majority don't feel it's reasonable. I have had dogs and I've never left bagged poo anywhere, I'd be too ashamed to ever do so no matter how far I was from a bin. People have different standards though I guess. If I saw someone doing the same, or lobbing any form of litter for that matter I think I'd be likely to request they pick it up again. Which raises another interesting point, have you ever left poo when you knew someone was watching you?
  4. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    Agreed. It's just not reasonable if you apply any form of logic, which is probably why it wouldn't be considered reasonable by the majority of people (even those who have dogs) I'd guess. But everyone knows logic is just bollocks :-)
  5. maynragh

    Primary School Development Standards.

    OK, so there is virtually no proof that looking at information like this is going to help you with that. Quite the opposite in fact, if you go looking for it.
  6. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    There is no logic to that but I find it fascinating how people reconcile these things in their own mind nonetheless. If the bag is filthy you're doing it all wrong. It's a plastic bag. It's a piece of plastic waste, no different to any other piece of plastic waste. The organic waste should be entirely sealed on the inside - unless you're thinking of some form of psychological assault upon those who have to view a fellow human carrying poo? Do nappies offend you also? You can of course carry the bag in the same way you used it in the first place - with your hands, or indeed tie it to the dog as some people do! Either lobbing plastic in a hedge is reasonable behaviour or it's not, you really cannot split hairs over what might be inside the plastic, it's irrelevant to what will happen to the plastic if it stays in the environment. You'd stand more chance of arguing that the whole idea of persecuting littering is a social construct that's gone too far - which is I'd guess what's actually going on in the minds of those who do it. They're just hypocrites if they take offence a litter anywhere else, or if they took offence to someone doing it on their garden hedge, which of course is probably true :-)
  7. maynragh

    Primary School Development Standards.

    That's exactly the point I was making. The word 'useful' came from @thebees original post, which I quoted. The point is defining what the purpose of the education system is - is it there to churn out 'useful' / productive / compliant workers and consumers, or might there be some other purpose? Some other definition of 'useful' - in which case, whether a 6 year old can do long multiplication might not be so important maybe? Until you define the purpose of the system you cannot really set the targets.
  8. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    OK, right, I gotcha. As long as you cannot fit it in your pocket it's fine to leave it for later. So... a family size pop bottle is OK to lob in the hedge, but a small one not OK, is that right? Does the size of your pockets come in to play with this version of logic you're using?
  9. maynragh

    Primary School Development Standards.

    OK, there are a number of questions that follow on from this, but let's start with the obvious... Can you post any evidence that shows the information that has been collected can give any indication as to how 'useful' an individual may eventually become? From the very limited information I've seen it would appear to be looking for skills that will (more than likely) be entirely irrelevant by the time these kids need to be 'useful' - if you accept that need (which is itself a matter of opinion).
  10. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    Well there you go, mystery solved. Seems to be an awful lot of people who quite often forget to collect it. Would the same logic apply if it was a crisp packet, or a pop bottle? If you saw someone toss an empty pop bottle or their Maccies wrappers (as seems to be the norm) in to a hedge, would you think... "I'm sure they're just leaving them for collection on the way back..." ??
  11. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    Do you do the poo bauble thing?
  12. maynragh

    Primary School Development Standards.

    Does anyone know who these results matter to? And why?
  13. maynragh

    Dogshit Map...

    The dog DNA thing is probably not a bad idea. All dogs must be microchipped now so wouldn't take much to set up a DNA database at the same time. The thing I find really fascinating is the philosophy behind picking up the dog mess, tying the bag, then leaving it, sometimes actually placing it somewhere or hanging it in a bush. What is that all about? Is it a form of protest? I really don't get it. Surely if you're too lazy to put the bag in the bin you're too lazy to pick up in the first place. I almost want to catch someone doing it so I can ask. A dog turd will be gone in a few days in normal weather cycles, but a poo in a bag is semi permanent. Anyone on MF ever done this? I want to understand!
  14. maynragh

    Road Safety Consultation

    /\ is precisely the answer I would expect, thank you. I am a long long way from organising press launches but it's good to know the concern that the tar brush might splurge in other directions is not just mine. I agree 100%. It's a difficult one to police. I know that the local 4x4 club make it known as far as possible that they will do all they can to host any visiting club or organisation that wants to do stuff on local green lanes, precisely for this reason. If non locals are seen doing unsociable things, or end up in the wrong places intentionally or not, the locals are the ones who are likely to ultimately carry the can. In reality though you there's nothing which can be done until a law is actually broken - which is why I asked the question about the drones. Surely government / police must have some sort of PR / media relations bod who could have a quick chat with anyone like this and say 'hi guys, would you like us to close a road for a few minutes so you can do this safely?' I saw them twice and I've seen discussion of their arrival on social media, so they didn't exactly keep it a secret. Got to be in your interest Derek?
  15. maynragh

    Road Safety Consultation

    Touché. I'm really not sure which bit of this you're not getting. We agree that a bit of spirited driving in the correct setting is an acceptable risk for an individual to take. I have absolutely no problem with people coming over to film stuff or do other exciting stuff legally. I do, that's why I asked the questions. If folk rock up off the boat and nip in to DOI for permission to close a few sections of road so they can cock about a bit and get the best angles that's fine by me. But if I'm driving down a busy main road in the middle of the day and I see a drone in front of me, shortly followed by some dudes sitting in the hedge with cameras, and a green porker on german plates being driven carelessly, the first thing I think is - did I miss the road closing sign? For me it's just another funny thing that happened on the way to a job, I drive a lot so I'm probably too relaxed anyway. For someone who's not so confident it might not be so funny. If flying a drone down the middle of the road is legal, or they have some sort of permission to do it, then I have more questions - but that's another matter. If you don't understand my gripe I have already assumed you are OK with people cocking about in the middle of the day on busy main roads. I have to assume there is no scenario you can think of where this might threaten the safety of someone. I can. If you're fine with that, then I understand.
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