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Oh come on. You've met me. You know I'm not an angry man.

My summary of the situation is 100% accurate.

I absolutely hate those who accuse me of having anything whatever to do with "a sleazy little tax haven in the Irish sea" but with the likes of the Appleby revelations it's an impossible position to defend.

So face reality and stop trying....

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I have met you and you didn't come across as angry then, but you do in this thread and have started levelling personal insults, goads and jibes.  It is a shame that you feel that you cannot defend the island as there is plenty to be proud of and you are much removed from the 'sleaze', so why even try to defend that aspect?  But that is your problem, not mine.

I do my job with integrity and within the law but have encountered many situations where the lack of integrity is not from the IOM but those onshore who try to abuse it.   Often met with the response of 'but you are offshore'.  No chum, not on your nelly. 

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Appleby revelations - it is clear to anyone with a brain Lewis Hamilton uses a private jet for work, so he buys a private jet for work and doesn’t pay VAT on it, as it is primarily for work, and; Shock! Horror! - He might have also have occasionally used it for non-work trips. It’s shocking stuff alright, but nothing compared to the U.K. where millions of people think nothing of nipping to the shops in their vat-free works vans - time the guardian and BBC publicised what shady practices they get up to over there. 

Howard should have pointed out forcefully how ridiculous that story was and demanded a rebate of BBC license fee. 

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13 hours ago, P.K. said:

Bollocks.

Can't disagree with that:lol: 

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12 hours ago, Freggyragh said:

Appleby revelations - it is clear to anyone with a brain Lewis Hamilton uses a private jet for work, so he buys a private jet for work and doesn’t pay VAT on it, as it is primarily for work, and; Shock! Horror! - He might have also have occasionally used it for non-work trips. It’s shocking stuff alright, but nothing compared to the U.K. where millions of people think nothing of nipping to the shops in their vat-free works vans - time the guardian and BBC publicised what shady practices they get up to over there. 

Howard should have pointed out forcefully how ridiculous that story was and demanded a rebate of BBC license fee. 

So you couldn't possibly find a use for some £790m then?

How very dull and unimaginative you must be.

Got to be at least a couple of hospitals in there I would say.....

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13 hours ago, Gladys said:

I have met you and you didn't come across as angry then, but you do in this thread and have started levelling personal insults, goads and jibes.  It is a shame that you feel that you cannot defend the island as there is plenty to be proud of and you are much removed from the 'sleaze', so why even try to defend that aspect?  But that is your problem, not mine.

I do my job with integrity and within the law but have encountered many situations where the lack of integrity is not from the IOM but those onshore who try to abuse it.   Often met with the response of 'but you are offshore'.  No chum, not on your nelly. 

Trying to defend the indefensible is a waste of time.

But to try and claim that what takes place at Ronaldsway would be repeated like for like in any other EU country is just plain daft....

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I didn't claim it would happen elsewhere. To clarify I didn't say a VAT official would attend to an import out of usual business hours, I really don't know if they would elsewhere.

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There's nothing indefensible about it, "It's just business" as a certain society calls it,all the socialist declarations and recriminations aren't worth a fucking carrot.

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On 11/01/2018 at 11:57 AM, Andy Onchan said:

The same would have applied in any other EU country not just IOM. 

 

57 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I didn't claim it would happen elsewhere. To clarify I didn' say a VAT official would attend to an import out of usual business hours, I really don't know if they would elsewhere.

The IOM is the only place I know of where customs officials get briefed by a bean counter...

If my beloved Berliner-style Grauniad (RIP) is to be believed of course.

Should be amusing. As thier client base is probably disappearing faster than a priest speeding from a brothel Appleby have stated they are taking legal action - but ONLY in the UK.

Now why is that I wonder....?

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Why only in the UK?  Possibly because Panorama was aired by the BBC?  Or, could the UK be an amenable jurusdiction?

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Most likely the UK is one of the few places where Appleby won't get laughed out of court.

They claim they need to know what of their data has been placed in the public domain.

The reality is, of course, that they want to silence the Beeb and the Grauniad. They can only do that by "proving" that none of the revelations are in the public interest.

Good luck with that one.....

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No, they are suing the BBC and the Guardian, so where else would they take them to court?

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21 hours ago, P.K. said:

 

The IOM is the only place I know of where customs officials get briefed by a bean counter...

If my beloved Berliner-style Grauniad (RIP) is to be believed of course.

 

 

You really do need to read (and perhaps inform your oracle of choice) about the laws and therefore compliance regarding aircraft arriving/departing on IOM territory and the method for declaring and recording aircraft and all other types of goods for customs purposes. It's all there. IOM Customs & Excise are doing nothing different from any other UK or EU based officials. 

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I do wonder if P.K. has any practical experience of anything other than sweetie shop VAT arrangements. 

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I've skied across the border from Austria to Switzerland. there's an Austrian customs officer on the crossing point up in the mountains whose only role is to stamp VAT reclaim forms so that tourists can reclaim VAT on expensive goods bought in Austria. He makes no checks that the goods haven't been used in Austria, in fact I was wearing the jacket I made the reclaim on while he stamped the form.

It wasn't on the scale of a private jet, but its clearly not correct.

A customs officer may have been on airport duty when Hamilton flew in, they do check incoming mail etc so the arrangement may not be that unusual.

 

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