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  2. manxy

    Flat Earth?

    I concede..... You get two points for that.... lol
  3. Freggyragh

    labour

    Performance artists like Alex Jones make fortunes you can only dream of spouting their made-up shit, and here you are - a sad tribute act on Manxforums.
  4. thesultanofsheight

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    But he’s a back bencher and he’s made it clear that he only wants to be a back bencher. Not too dissimilar to Peter Karrans approach when he was an MHK. He’s totally right in this and it’s not about mirroring Guernsey’s tax strategy but the fact that the IOM came up with the suggestions here but they’re actually being introduced in another crown dependency that seems to be well ahead of us in having a leading civil servant who actually wants to create change in the structure of government so that costs are cut and front line services prioritized. The Manx public sector couldn’t give a shit let’s be honest about that. It couldn’t give a shit about anything but themselves and their expensive job aspirations and creating ‘things’ to keep people busy with. It’s right that we should seek to prioritise front line services and marginalize all the tossers and hangers on we have in the public sector and offer them money to basically bugger off and live in the real world with the rest of us.
  5. paul's got wright

    Flat Earth?

    Cat got your tongue china? Do you think the scientific method is trying to trick you!
  6. joebean

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    Chris Robertshaw is the only MHK who is speaking publicly, or maybe speaking at all, about fundamental reform to cut costs and safeguard the future. Reform was on the agenda when MHKs were requesting votes but, aided by the most conservative CM that they could vote in, any thought of change was quickly kicked into touch. There simply is no leadership inside or outside CoMIN. If this administration has shown any skill, it has been in stifling debate and massaging the media and public into thinking that everything is being worked on and everything is in hand. To this end we regularly hear the monotone drone of Chris Thomas and his dull utterings. The only magic he possesses is the ability to transform complacency into a Programme. It is worth noting that the Chief Executive of the Civil Service in Guernsey is leading change from the front. On the Island we have a Chief Secretary that appears to live in a dark corner and who only comes to light on the very rare occasion that someone like Beecroft shines a torch, temporarily, upon him. Even then, the reaction is to scuttle deeper into the corner. This is a man who is Head of the Civil Service, but he could walk down any corridor outside of Cabinet Office, without any Civil Servants recognising him. The failure of leadership within the Political element of Government is compounded by a failure within the Civil Service. To expect anything other than fiddling rather than reform is unrealistic. Its also truly worrying. Robertshaw will have his 15 minutes of fame with this outburst but the business of Government will continue as normal.
  7. Kopek

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    Interesting the Guernsey has a CEO. and it is he that is directing the changes. Maybe he has met political opposition to some of his ideas and we don't know what has been rejected but maybe that is what we are misssing, a CEO?
  8. Lost Login

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    But he does very little. Every now and then when he sees the opportunity to get a bit of publicity he raises his head but most time he just sits schtum and collects his salary. If he was really so passionate and driven by this he would be weekly or monthly highlighting examples of waste, inefficiency, proposing improvements but there is deathly silence until he picks up something somebody else has done and says "Ooh look what XYZ has done, isn't it terrible the IoM is not doing the same" Either piss or get off the pot as I get much more annoyed about somebody taking a position and doing F All once they have got a position than in respect of somebody who maybe is doing a poor job but they are trying their but off and it is the best that they can do. I view Robertshaw as basically the equivalent of Geoff Corkish when he was an MLC. They are both in it for there ego whilst doing as little as possible.
  9. Lost Login

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    I would agree to an extent but there are some who appear to treat being an MHK or an MLC as a nice retirement position where they have to do little but see out there time. If we want to follow Guernsey's lead on certain matters to try and balance the IoM budget then I would suggest that we look to follow some of there tax policies. Their corporate 10% tax bracket is much wider than the IoM's e.g. it includes fiduciary, insurance etc businesses.
  10. craggy_steve

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    Robertshaw has at least been consistent on this matter and is fulfilling his manifesto within his rather limited non-executive capacity as a back-bencher https://mm.aiircdn.com/147/57c7e1be4a42d.pdf He couldn't get it done when he was in CoMin under the previous CM, so shouting from the back benches is about all he can do. At least he's trying even though it guarantees he will never have a more influential Government role again. Maybe this outburst on the back of Guernsey's bravery will finally force a proper debate, but I doubt it - the current CoMin and Tynwald are, like their predecessors, too weak and feeble to take on the CS.
  11. TheTeapot

    Donald Trump

  12. TheTeapot

    100 Years...

    He's a cool site that is relevant to this thread that is worth checking out http://astreetnearyou.org/
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  14. Non-Believer

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    All goes to prove that when in office, MHKs are led by the nose by their respective CS. And out of office, they're in such a minority that even when vocal they have no influence. The Abyss beckons with the wheelbarrows available for the scheming few before the rest tumble.
  15. dilligaf

    The Art of distraction

    Yeah, you're right. Maybe someone needs to invent a sort of requisition meeting or similar.
  16. finlo

    The Art of distraction

    Stop letting facts get in the way of a fine idea!
  17. La Colombe

    100 Years...

    I guess you all must have missed it then? Here you go, it's from 43'00". Brilliant. Awesome choir.
  18. dilligaf

    The Art of distraction

    Ha ha, the people who vote for them now! A panel of 40,000. They would need a big room, or a fine week's weather
  19. Lost Login

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    I find it hard to listen to Robertshaw as he is so oily, but I heard him on the radio this morning and all I was left thinking is it was the same old storey from him. Great at criticising from the side lines and saying the obvious, we all know we need cuts and to reorganise, but effing useless at actually doing the job or coming up with workable ideas. FFS he was on to complain about an increase in the costs of numbers and when asked did not know what they were. He only had one thing to research and he could not even do that. What did Robertshaw come up with when he was Minister for Policy and Reform? A road show where the questions were loaded and directed to where he wanted the audience to go and he got narked when audience members challenged him. His idea to cut the Treasury's pension deficit in terms of public servants salaries was to increase employers contributions which he heralded as a big saving for the Treasury. Possibly but it was zero saving for Govt as all he was doing was transferring responsibility from Treasury to Departments as the employers. He produced possibly the single worst bit of legislation that has been drafted in the IoM in 30 years, and rather than listen to advise he totally ignored it with the result that legislation might have had broad support got rejected. I forced myself to watch the MTV clip and in summary it appears to be that he likes what Guernsey are intending to do, it is terrible the IoM Govt have not done similar and he is tearing his hair out about it. I might accept that from somebody who had been campaigning loud on the matter, was bringing ideas forward, had little influence but not from somebody who is one of only 24MHKs who you barely anything from most of the time. I presume he is now interested in savings as he can then argue that Govt spends them on a cruise terminal or his farming subsidies. OK he is right that Govt should be doing more but to me Robertshaw is just as much part of the problem as he seems happy most of the time to do F All to pick up his monthly pay and farming subsidies. When he does say anything it is only really for self promotion just as in this case where he goes running to the press rather than trying to get the matter into Tynwald etc Even Moorehouse had the gumption to try and raise the matter by asking a question the other week about increase in costs and numbers all be it he would have done better to have the figures broken down between front line services such as doctors, teachers etc and those we might call pen pushers
  20. finlo

    The Art of distraction

    Ha ha, the people who vote for them now!
  21. dilligaf

    Best Place For Sunday Lunch

    No.
  22. La Colombe

    The Art of distraction

    Amy's supporters would be up for that.
  23. dilligaf

    The Art of distraction

    Not really democratic then. Bad as they are, they have been elected democratically. Apart from that, who would interview them?
  24. finlo

    The Art of distraction

    Maybe MHK's should get the job by interview rather than election? Getting the job on their own merits rather than by granny farming etc.
  25. Uhtred

    Robertshaw [brilliantly] states glaring obvious on MTTV

    I was really disturbed to discover that I agreed 100% with Robertshaw. My god he nailed Quayle.
  26. Declan

    The Art of distraction

    I don’t mind that idea. However, I doubt I could choose a best 19 from those that stood last time. I guess I’d just vote for my favourite five or six to stop them being beaten by my 19th favourite Also does this leave open the possibility of an Amy Burns type or even an extremist, who can get a small number of people to vote for them and only them scrapping into one of the lower positions.
  27. mojomonkey

    Donald Trump

    He's superb entertainment.
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