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  1. Ouch, this thread is back. Not unexpected I suppose.
    27 points
  2. I do hope so. I'm incredibly lucky to be in the financial position to not have to worry about how much my legal fees cost, nor worry about instructing those lawyers in the first place. Is it so hard to believe that I might be an honest and genuine person who just wanted to help the COVID19 effort?
    24 points
  3. I am not trying to censor anyone, but neither should you. At first I thought IOMG did a very good job, but started questioning when the Dr Glover debacle reared its head. The letter shredding event undermined the confidence I had. Whether the letter existed or not, and if it did who it was from, was neither here nor there. But that it was used as a justification in some odd way of not only the Dr Glover situation but more importantly removing what seemed to a great many a vital tool in our armoury, on-island genomic testing. It was almost juvenile. Up until that point, I thought DA
    24 points
  4. I have no idea whether it existed as I never saw it and am only aware of it's content from the briefing where it was read out. But the error in judgement lies completely with the Minister in deciding to use it to discredit me. It completely showed his true character, in my opinion.
    22 points
  5. Re the PAC, It was staggering, concerning and enraging all in one go. Of course there is another side to the story, but what was delivered today, the inauguration day of Manx Care, gave little hope for those involved to retrieve the position. After that, if anyone believes that IOMG in its entirety has made a good job of the response to Covid rather than being extremely lucky is not living in the real world. Was the Xmas/NYE outbreak due to the lack of testing? Were the right people advising on policy and taking the proper scientific advice? Who did write that letter and why? H
    22 points
  6. I have been following MF for the CV past year it helps me deal with the situation l found myself in. My husband was diagnosed with cancer 2 years ago, he is now on palliative and life extending drugs, no cure. I have a condition which effects my nervous system. We have always worked and was saving for our travel plans for when we retired . We are unable to get a internet shopping slot from Tesco, l have been trying for the past year. One of us has to go once a fortnight and accept the risk. We cannot afford the other delivery options shopping as the food is too expensive. Our inco
    21 points
  7. What happens next is crucial. They have too much invested to do an about turn My prediction is that they carry on with the smear campaign. It’s too late to play the victim and it’s got to be one or the other. They’ve lost a LOT of public sympathy, I’m not sure this is the time to play that card. They’ll be gathering as much info against genomics, and collecting experts and make such a fuss that we will forget that they’ve treated this woman appallingly. This government (not all of it) is toxic the treatment and actions taken toward Dr Glover have been exactly those used by a toxic
    18 points
  8. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/bus-drivers-at-risk-from-people-joyriding-in-lockdown/ Really? Our CM has obviously never been on a bus. The ones I have seen in the last few weeks ( and most of the time) are mostly empty and the poor fuckers riding on them don’t look like they’re experiencing any joy whatsoever. And I earn a reasonable salary, but I can’t afford to ‘joyride’ on the bus. So, it’s not the bus drivers’ fault for licking each other in the canteen; it’s not the bus company’s fault for not following health and safety at work; it’s not the go
    18 points
  9. Tonight’s briefing will be as follows:- 1. I hope everyone had a nice weekend, I enjoyed visiting my parents and sitting in a deck chair 2. David for stats 3. dr ewart talks about a graph 4. Something about baby steps and remaining vigilent 5. education minister will be back on Thursday to give us an update on schools 6. respect those working in garden centres 7. council of ministers meeting on Thursday 8. Questions from a journalist...looks for clarification on something un important....something about guernsey air bridge Something about
    17 points
  10. She agreed to be paid as bank staff because that worked out to be the easiest and quickest way to organise things and to pay her in the middle of a crisis. But she wasn't exactly able to pick her own hours because of that crisis - she was having to work all possible hours just to keep things going. Effectively they were getting a full time professional contractor at much lower bank rates. Once the crisis lessened during the Summer, she obviously wanted to regularise things and to put the Path Lab Covid testing on a more professional basis, less dependent on her personally and the equipm
    17 points
  11. I doubt you've listened to a word of that broadcast. And if you did, you'll only hear what you want to hear. This pitchforkery you speak of, would you rather we all just shut up, bend over and unflinchingly accept another shafting from the well-lubed government strap-on? This is supposed to be a democracy where dissent and free-speech is constitutionally our right. You're obviously surprised that some of us are less supine and believe in scrutinising the machinations of those who're paid by us to work for us and to have our best interests at heart.
    17 points
  12. It was full on. She has made it clear and specific to me who and where the faults are. Some people will be looking at the jobs section tomorrow in my view. Allegations of stealing copyright, people copying codes, abusing copyright which can be evidenced, letters ignored, nasty letters form AGs office, was a member of staff then wasn't, then was again - it is very murky stuff and 3 hours of it. She hardly paused for breath. If it is all true then people changes are desperately needed bacuse someone it appears may need to come clean about the whole situation. This will cost them (or us
    17 points
  13. Well the driver should have woken Mr Speaker up when he got to Four Roads. You can't get the staff.
    17 points
  14. Well we'll probably never know what that story is. Instead a valuable facility for the youth will be abandoned, someone loaded will rebuild it as a nice house, kids with nothing to do will smash vodka bottles somewhere and Facebook will be up in arms at shit parents.
    16 points
  15. On the surface, for many months we certainly were one of the leaders, alongside jurisdictions such as New Zealand. Little did we, the Great Manx Public, know there were huge gaps in our defences. The tragedy is that it appears the IOMG also had no idea. They are the people who should have known and should have closed those gaping holes before they became the economic and social disasters we are dealing with today, and will be for the foreseeable future. The majority of the GMP at one time were rightly proud of our covid response and it can only follow that the people who make up the
    16 points
  16. Nope, just me wondering how much of this is indexed by Google. If it stays, it stays. I'm not in the habit of telling anything less than the truth (for better or worse, thank my aspie side for that) so while I might be overly truthful there's not much I can do about people who disbelieve it. It's because I said I had been working 100 hours per week between DHSC and my own company, at a point where the company was in exponential growth. In DA's world that means it must be beaten in order to state the special nature of DHSC staff compared to the rest of us plebs. 120 hour weeks are
    16 points
  17. is this available in hard back ?
    16 points
  18. It's concerning how HQ et al are allowed to say things but then not have to provide any proof to back it up. Unfortunately there are loads of people on the IoM that just take what they are saying as gospel. Even stupid things like 19,000 people having watched the vaccination Q&A session. Or the number of people on facebook when the testing numbers were queried who replied with "yes but he told us it was a snapshot." Whilst everyone would say that track and trace are doing a great job at their specific role, who's looking at the bigger picture of what they are finding? Analysing the
    16 points
  19. I listened to the UNITE union woman on Paul Moulton's video earlier, and was staggered when she said the members had been calling for the management to introduce social distancing in the canteen. Hang on, you want the management to come along with a big stick and tell your members what they know they should be doing anyway?. Unbelievable, f**king unbelievable. The canteen shouldn't be open in the first place. Make the buses free to ride and screen the driver completely. Job done.
    16 points
  20. It's not the public health director but the temporary (for two years) CEO of the DHSC. It was made clear that she would still be living in England, but she was supposed to be flying over to do three days a week on the Island. Some of us said this was bonkers at the time and that trying to make a badly performing organisation work would require more than flying visits - you need to see what is going on on the ground and speak to those at all levels (including patients) to see what is really happening. Reading reports isn't enough. As it turned out Covid struck fairly soon after she took
    16 points
  21. Hi all, Steve Doyle here. This trial by social media is now becoming intolerable. For the record, I never and would never threaten anyone with negative press, I’m really not that type of person and definitely not powerful enough. The meeting with Rachel ended with a hug and she e-mailed me the next day saying ‘thanks for the talk’. She was a friend and colleague and it’s terribly sad that it has come to this. The full truth about this pandemic journey will come out eventually, but not on here or Facebook. We really need to be careful when listening to one side of any story and j
    15 points
  22. They must do, of course, but to be honest in the Dr Glover situation, the only positive was that the lab got her on board in the first instance. That was done in the most pragmatic and expeditious way by making her a bank employee. That probably required minimum management input. They also had to "fiddle" timesheets due to the number of hours she was working, again a pragmatic response in an emergency situation. From Dr Glover's viewpoint, it didn't seem a commercially attractive way of doing it, but there was an overriding need to get the job done. However, it would seem that w
    15 points
  23. When, and if, we finally get the economy going again, there has to be a reassessment of priorities . CS spendthrifts have to be reigned in, we can no longer afford the excesses of the airport, buses, and failed civil engineering projects, not to mention the nice to haves in the guise of heritage. Spending priorities need to be for the public good in general and managers need to be told that the days of managing by chequebook are over. We still seem to have a raft of expensive managers who are incapable of decision making without running straight to a consultancy firm. This needs to stop.
    15 points
  24. As far as I know we’ve witnessed one death on our Island since the turn of the year, that person dying within 28 days of a positive Covid test, not necessarily as a result of the virus itself. There were questions over the age & health of the deceased. We have recorded over 1,000 positive cases in 2021, the likelihood is that many, many more have carried the virus whether this year or 2020, many having no idea they had it. We have the Manx public turning on the Steam Packet, the bus drivers, sea swimmers, children in parks, golfers, taxi drivers and many other groups. When
    15 points
  25. That's what will happen because that's the way things are done. The Public Sector leads Tynwald by the nose like a pig to market, even when it's investigating itself. This is what happens and believe me I've seen it. Government doesn't lead - it follows. Tynwald provides little more than the illusion of governance. It's not the driver or the machine. Everytime something goes tits up they bring in a firm like Beamans. They listen to these shaman consultants who advise them to appoint another expensive technocrat. That's what consultants do. So the expert rocks up, full of his/her own
    15 points
  26. There were very few attacks on Henrietta's personal appearance on here. Plenty on FB in the comments at the briefings, one of the reasons I gave up watching rather than listening. Most of the comments on here have indeed gone past the superficial, but sometimes the superficial signals are very telling, vis the lovely smile comment. The comments about HQ's fumbling speech delivery belie a doubt that he actually understands what he is saying. One of the key points in effective presentation skills is knowing your subject and being able to know your limits when you go off piste. He appear
    14 points
  27. they weren't installed correctly and need £150,000's worth of new boards to fix it, these will come from Turkey but be the wrong size,shape,material and then after a lengthy legal battle, Dave will nip to BnQ and get 20m of the cheap stuff.
    14 points
  28. For a while the IOMG pretended that it was leading the world in how to effectively manage Covid. No more! They left the proverbial back door, the SPC, well and truly open and unsupervised. Consequently, Covid slipped silently past their defences, back into our lives and sent us back into lockdown.
    14 points
  29. They’re looking for CoMin sense, not common sense
    14 points
  30. To be fair, the thread was created long before the PAC hearing, and I don't think RG objected to it before. I am a genuine supporter of RG, but you cannot expect something as explosive as what appears to have been going on not to be commented on. Whether her name is in the title is also irrelevant, it would be mentioned in the thread, so I am not sure where the issue is. I will say it again, from what we have seen, I support RG and wait to hear the rebuttal. BTW, that was supposed to be issued before the end of this week, that is today.
    14 points
  31. Since they did away with the cop-shop in the village this type of behaviour has increased. Not having a bobby on the street results in this kind of shit. I've said it before and I'll say it again.... when a bobby is doing his rounds he picks up info about what's going on and who's likely to be involved.
    14 points
  32. Yes I did it by listening to what she said. An unknown skill in Manx Government circles it appears.
    14 points
  33. I was very impressed with Dr Glover today bearing in mind AG's office have been involved along the way but that didnt bother her. Rachel put her case forward , it seemed honest and heartfelt and also clear she cares about our Island and the health of residents . Fair play to the lady. But again the one thing that came through to me is the crooked AG's office and how defensive and protective they are to ministers and departments regardless whether there in the wrong or not. Makes me wonder about all these other issues that go through that same office .
    14 points
  34. The whole way they treated her is despicable. I hope some of her naysayers are ashamed of themselves. Those who were behind her treatment should resign and if they don't, they should bloody well be sacked.
    14 points
  35. Where do I start? Confusing statistics, Lack of information about hospitalisations (from or with covid, vaxed or not, yet it is OK to say that case one last year was someone returning from Spain), Dismissive responses to press questions (remember PM and the SP, and the lovely smile?), Adherence to the most peculiar data protection regulations (leading to the shredding of a letter that had served its purpose, apparently), Some funny dealings on software and the treatment of Dr Glover, meanwhile Guernsey is setting up a genomics facility as a vital tool in the fight aga
    14 points
  36. We've had two lockdowns this year. We're in the fourth month. Your support for this regime is appalling.
    13 points
  37. Agreed! The problem with their myopic penny-pinching strategies is that they may achieve short term goals, but in the longer term they will always generate false economies. This government seems to be totally at ease when it comes to the spiralling costs of large capital projects (like the Liverpool Docks project), but unable to bring themselves to spend comparatively small amounts of money on vital health related programmes like random Covid testing of residents and mandatory testing of all visitors. IMHO, collectively, they lack perspective. The lockdowns we have had were always going to cos
    13 points
  38. I'd be wary of engaging with this weasel if i were you
    13 points
  39. With what we have paid you and the guy pretending to be a half wit to come shill on here, we could have bought this software licence 5 times over with donkey kong probably thrown in.
    13 points
  40. What is surprising is that DA and HQ seem totally unprepared to respond to the evidence given by RG. Surely they had half a clue and would have been ready with a rebuttal in pretty short order after the PAC hearing? Presumably, they are aware of the correspondence, including the letters before action, and would have already determined what their response would be. HQ distancing himself, and DA saying he gave everyone the weekend off. They must have known well before last Thursday what their position is on every point made, surely? If they were confident and firm in their posi
    13 points
  41. Dr Glover has provided a qualified, alternative view. She has effectively been a qualified Opposition who has questioned the Government line. IoMG doesn't "do" opposition, from Tynwald down. It's not accustomed to it, doesn't like it and its immediate reaction is/was fairly standard in trying to ignore it in the first instance and then when it didn't go away, attempt to discredit it (look at the DBC/Tribunal verdict reaction for general attitude, for example) It's a microcosm example of the way Govt operates and it's been brought out into the light now which is something else that Go
    13 points
  42. It shouldn’t be so hard to understand. Yes UK rates are lower than they have been, but, even with vaccination, they are still worried about a third wave, especially new variants, coming from outside. That’s why UK have belatedly introduced border restrictions, quarantine and tests, on top of lockdowns. You only have to look at how quickly it took hold here in late February, and through March, from only 1, 2 or 3 cases coming in. You only have to look at the number of admissions to hospital and how that put the system at danger of collapse and affected health care for all. Its yo
    13 points
  43. Its utterly stupid to charge him with a crime, just punch him hard in the mouth - twice - and tell him not to be such a twat.
    13 points
  44. As someone on radio said this morning, just keep your Fucking dogs on a lead and they can’t run over a cliff chasing rabbits!!
    13 points
  45. Can we do a reverse bubble? Where I can get away from the wife and kids for a week or two? Nice bit of quiet time would do my mental health the world of good
    13 points
  46. Anyone who reads anything about the virus knew. I posted on another thread a paper from a genomics professor saying that children were being infected and were spreading the virus weeks before the lost weekend. You don’t have to be an expert to learn the facts. What we do need is an expert to act on the facts and to disseminate information succinctly and clearly so everyone is under no doubt of the current situation. In this last episode we were told to go home, then we were told we could go out, then we were told to send our children into school then we were told we were going into lockd
    13 points
  47. which we should have been doing right from the fucking start
    12 points
  48. Baby steps often involve a full nappy too.
    12 points
  49. Our own director of public health has described some of our previous circumstances as “lucky” on repeated occasions. Luck by definition suggests “success or failure brought by chance rather than one’s own actions”. So, maybe you’re right, and we should focus on style over substance. Take for example the notion of border testing, something we deferred until we’d had high risk on-island transmission over Christmas. We had even had fore-warning late in 2020, when somebody in November passed it on post isolation, leading to a small cluster. This was when we moved to the r
    12 points
  50. Yep - he really told them.......not! Here's the motion; "That Tynwald is of the opinion that a robust and speedy system of genomic testing is vital in the fight against COVID-19; and that this will remain the case for the foreseeable future". Its what Julie described as a "nothing motion". It doesn't instruct anyone to do anything. Tynwald now is of the opinion that genomics are important - so what. Public Health already did - they've been sending samples off to Liverpool for ages. I don't see Hooper doing anything here than jumping on board the "Free The Rachel 1" crusade.
    12 points
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