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  1. 4 points
    You have to admire the bloke standing against him in Lonan. Read his pledges to the end. It’s not the most subtle campaign in the world.
  2. 3 points
    Plenty of travel-necessary pubs still operating. People travel from afield to Sulby Glen, Raven and the aforementioned Hawthorn. It's what you get when you get there that's the biggest influence.
  3. 3 points
    Is this not supposed to be a free-market capitalist economy we live in? What one man fails at, another will try harder and make a success of. It's what it's about and what moves things forward. Oh, sorry I forgot. This is IoM. Home to Establishment non-competitive and corrupt practices without higher scrutiny or question.
  4. 3 points
    Yes it’s business but to me you can’t then go to planning saying “We can’t sell this pub, we have to redevelop it and you have to sign that off as it’s the only way we can sell the site” when the only reason you can’t sell it is that you’ve made it almost unsalable by slamming a load of covenants all over it. It’s either one thing or the other. I think they’re trying to manipulate the planning process by making a perfectly salable commercial premises unsalable.
  5. 3 points
    So why the covenant(s) then? If it's such a write off as a pub business it shouldn't matter what it's sold for, use wise? An experienced operator could make a go of it. If it then fails, it's their pigeon. But they should at leadt be given the option. H&B are just terrified it would be a success. Further highlighting their failure into the bargain.
  6. 3 points
    Bill Malarkey and David Ashford all in one evening... fuck that, pass the bong.
  7. 3 points
    This is the Isle of Man though where honest competition does not exist. The following model usually applies. Shop A was set up in 1910 by the owner of shop A’s great-grandfather. Shop A has been selling different versions the same thing for over 50 years giving a really nice living to three generations of Shop A family members. Shop B opens up in the same street undercutting Shop A in a competitive situation. On lodge night over and few pints the owner of Shop A manages to convince a man he went to school with that Shop B should not exist. The following Wednesday Shop B is found to be in breach of several planning rules and regulations and must cease trading until it can prove to the person spoken to by the owner of Shop A that it complies. Eventually the owner of Shop B sells the property to the owner of Shop A as he can’t get a license to trade and can’t pay his mortgage. The owner of Shop A leaves the Shop B property lying empty for the next 20 years.
  8. 3 points
    The CC used to be paid 20% more than a UK Supt, in the days of Robin Oake. Then Mike Culverhouse came and it all went a bit “Rock Star” - company car, bonuses for low crime (which were outrageous). GR to his credit ditched the bonuses but kept the company motor. Several years ago, I suggested the DHA should take an “Emergency Services Commissioner” model, where there is an Executive Chief across Fire, Police and Paramedic Services, with specialist service delivery officers (likely at Supt equivalent) for each area. I believe the Fire Chief out-earns the CC. Either way, there is little doubt it has all gone the way as the rest of the Civil Service. There is now a Chief, three supers and at least 4 Chief Inspectors. And that model has changed at least four times in the last 10 yrs.
  9. 2 points
    Roses are red Violets are blue We've gone on strike So fuck all of you
  10. 2 points
    Legalization of Cannabis has happened in Canada and I have already Indulged. Nothing wrong with it as far as I am concerned. 3X3
  11. 2 points
    Why thank you, Freggy. I think that you're generally reasonable too. I always enjoy reading your stuff on here because some thought obviously goes into it, even if we seldom agree on much. With the mutual appreciation society out of the way then, you are totally wrong in second guessing my motives and, unlike some around here, I take any propaganda whatever the agenda with a very large pinch of salt. I look at the information available from multiple sources and I make up my own mind. I assure you that after over 30 years in building, investing and selling businesses, I'm not easily manipulated. Tax avoidance is largely a whore of globalisation rather than Brexit, but I accept that Britain benefits from it more than most. Paradoxically, financial services based on worldwide tax avoidance funds a great deal of actual taxation raised in the UK through the City, and that is substantially the reason why it is jealously guarded. I genuinely do not believe your take about weakening the standing of the country, etc. I think that outside the EU our prospects will be far brighter and there will not be the sustained attacks, treaty by treaty, on its self-determination and the need for constant vigilance over its very survival as an independent state. Good thing Blair didn't get his way and take us into the Euro is all I can say! I'm not proud, incidentally. If I suddenly had a Damascus moment and realised I had been "talking utter shite" as you put it, I would say as much and start batting for the other side. I wouldn't keep up a pretence just for the sake of appearances. What would be the point on an anonymous forum? I do appreciate that the negotiation has not been the best, because it has been conducted largely on the EU's terms. I could live with the existing withdrawal deal though. At least it gets us out to a degree. I simply can't go along with the conspiracy theories that Brexit is such a bad idea that the populace could only have voted for it at the behest of malign foreign influence. I also take what you say about not being anti-British at face value. Sometimes I have discerned what I took as a Celtic style eagerness to belittle British interests in your posts, but I am pleased to acknowledge my error if this was not the case. I appreciate that some people even believe that remaining in the EU would be a patriotic stance for Britain, although I cannot see how that is compatible with the ultimate aims of "ever closer union" or indeed the opposite, a messy collapse of the bloc, which is also quite possible. Don't get me wrong. I'm not your narrow minded egg and bacon, chips and fish, foreigner hating type Englishman who goes abroad and refuses to speak the language, gets drunk and acts boorish. They are a bloody embarrassment! I spend a lot of my time in Southern Europe - particularly Spain - and I absolutely love the continent of Europe. All the more reason that I don't like what the EU, and particularly the Euro, is doing to it. I think it is built on flawed foundations, developed by lies, expanded on hubris and heading ultimately to a very dark place. Now if they just made it a free trade bloc........
  12. 2 points
    Exactly. No reason to go there other than the basics with a pint at brewery prices. And who was the operator? Not just the manager but the owner? And now they'd like to stop anybody who'd be minded to better it. Good example going back 8-odd years. Raven, Ballaugh had a couple in there doing Thai. It was rammed, 7 nights a week, struggle to book a table (think I posted on this in the Food and Drink thread at the time). They left, went to the Horse and Plough, I think? Raven food after that went to shit. Usual H&B fayre. Cold, unimaginative or warmed over. The pub was devoid of custom other than a few hardy locals. It stayed that way for six-odd years. Including a brewery manager and his wife getting up and leaving their meals on one occasion. New managers in there for a year making an effort now and it's picking up again, even midweek. It can be done. But it takes the right people and/or the right owners. And H&B generally provenly aren't.
  13. 2 points
    There's the catchment area of Baldrine and Baldrine Park. I bet some of them make their way the opposite direction to get to Laxey. LA is also 5 minute's drive from Onchan catchment area. If people weren't going there from Onchan it's because of what wasn't on offer? Personal guess? Poor service and zero inward investment in the place, usual brewery policy of milk it to the max and spend bugger all on it unless it involves turning it into a soulless box. Then try and flog it as a near ruin (a la Brit Ramsey). But you can't use it as a pub.
  14. 2 points
    That’s not true several posters have said above that they have and I’ve also spent a fair bit of time in there as well over the years. I do find it difficult to follow these threads where 95% of posters seem to say one thing, and 5% of posters seem to say the exact opposite ten times more frequently.
  15. 2 points
    Are you seriously going to stand by that last post? Of course it matters what the manager/staff are like. Of course it matters if the food is hit and miss I think you will find there are a number of people who think the closure is a shame
  16. 2 points
    The pub manager always matters. Dobson was just a drunk useless idiot. I see they’re trying to oust him from Lonan Commissioners as well. I wouldn’t set foot again in a pub he was manager off. Not that he will ever get a license again as a result of his numerous convictions for being drunk in charge.
  17. 2 points
    I and my family were regulars up until 5 or so years ago, reason we stopped going was because food and service was hit and miss, nothing to do with its location that's for certain.
  18. 2 points
    Food/drink, drink/food. Same thing if it's going to be a success story these days. It's the quality of service and what's on offer that makes the difference. And overpriced drink and overpriced, low quality cuisine served by poorly trained, ill motivated, poorly rewarded staff in surroundings that have seen next to no and/or unsympathetic investment is only going to end one way.
  19. 2 points
    Bathed in main beam every few seconds all evening, no thanks.
  20. 2 points
    Jesus Dilli, you're reaching Notwell levels of belligerent nonsense
  21. 2 points
    Then remove the covenant and let fate take its toll
  22. 2 points
    @ The Teapot I decided not to quote to avoid replicating your long post which in the main I agree with. I don’t see why individuals should have to pay for a licence to possess, use and grow personal amounts but I agree that it would provide an extra revenue stream to IOMG that would incline them more to full legalisation. Deceiminalisation is a pointless fudge that only benefits criminal gangs.
  23. 2 points
    No. Buy stuff and be allowed to let it rot? Just to get a financial result and win? When planning has said it's a pub not some private housing development. Forced sale. Brewery get the f**k out. It's a pub. Sell it as one and disallow any covenants.
  24. 2 points
    Went passed the Liverpool Arms today...what a shit site all boarded up. Shame on you H&B - sell it to someone that CAN run a pub - and f**k your covenants.
  25. 1 point
    It's a bit like selling you a house on the condition that you can't live in it!