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  1. 4 points
    I have not previously posted on this thread. I have only one point to make. If this event were being held on a private circuit (Jurby, Brands whatever) then of course the issues of responsibility, organisation, investigation and reports etc. would be - barring Civil or Criminal actions, purely a matter between the organisers, the participants, and any attending public. If the ACU (or whatever organisation) chose to either release or withhold their report, then failing any such court action it would indeed be a matter for them, it would be their report. If however, the event were to be held on public, taxpayer funded property (does the TT circuit hold all ownership rights of any land onto which a 200mph bike may potentially impinge?) then those same public are surely entitled to question, examine, hear any evidential report, and ultimately vote upon any or all activities conducted on either their public roads or indeed adjacent privately owned property which may be at risk from such activities. Surely it is for the organisers (including the ACU) TO MAKE THEIR CASE AND REQUEST PERMISSION - It is not for the property owners to beg for enquiry results! On public roads, the report belongs to the public, not to the ACU. If the ACU insist on making their report private, then we need independent reports by, for, and on behalf of the Public. In such a scenario, the ACU report becomes an irrelevance in determining the granting of the road closure. It is the Public's road, not the ACU's road. If the case for the TT, in modern times, is strong enough then fine, let the organisers state what their case is, and let the public make their decision based on the evidence so presented. If somebody wishes to close our public roads, and travel at such speeds that they may well exit our public roads and impinge on our private property, then it is up to those people WHO WISH TO APPLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC ROAD, to demonstrate that they can do so safely and responsibly to our satisfaction - they need to make their case to us, we have no such case to make.
  2. 4 points
    I can't see too many moguls being tempted by the offer of sausage baps and canapes. If we are going to do this may as well do it right and spend the budget on military grade cocaine and high class prostitures. What's wrong with these people?
  3. 3 points
    It does beg the question as to whether the riders and marshals should sit a test to show that they fully understand that process and what actions should be taken in the event of certain incidents/accidents. Shouldn't there be a default position, ie. red flag = get off your bike and head behind a barrier/wall whatever, until the travelling marshal arrives and instructs them what to do?? What is the default, Max?
  4. 3 points
    Why?  what if the inquiry has found the car driver to be not at fault? Because when you carry out an accident enquiry, surely you should use it to examine all aspects of what happened? Not just the immediate and most important cause. Sometimes other things may have made what happened less serious or might have caused problems in slightly different situations and changes could still be made. Or the very process of investigation might uncover procedures that are incorrect or dangerous - even if they had no effect in this particular case. Coroners often use inquest proceedings to highlight other issues that they feel should be addressed, even if they weren't the immediate cause of death. Mercifully no inquest was needed here, but you would hope an enquiry on behalf of the organisers would be even more keen to establish where improvements could be made. And of course publish the report, so people can see what lessons have actually been learnt and that the changes are implemented.
  5. 3 points
  6. 3 points
    In 6 weeks time the people responsible do it all again with a clean slate - which is why everyone with an ounce of humilty, common sense and decency is still questioning the cover up.
  7. 2 points
    They weren't stupid enough to post it on the Constabulary page were they?
  8. 2 points
    Another 5 days wait to test out the theory.of the Bedford Level observation and I'm excited to see science and fact in action. Lets hope that it isn't sabotaged or manipulated. This probably works out in two ways - either it will demonstrate a plausible explanation of round earth or that of level earth. It could show that I was wrong and will have to accept that fact and eat humble pie or it could also show that I was correct to disbelieve the lies put out there in the first place and that another theory I've mentioned was correct. 5 days.....
  9. 2 points
    No you are not. He ran two chippies one on the next turning down from the bowler (now a house, after a chippy it became a Chinese takeaway) and one round the corner. He used to give you a potato scallop while you waited for your order and would pretend to pick his nose with a finger stump to make you laugh. He was a lovely man.
  10. 2 points
    Starring the late, lamented Samantha Barton. It must have been 2001.
  11. 2 points
    Contrary to what Woolley and Woody say, the EU isn’t cancelling vetos, increasing integration or forcing anyone to join an EU Army: As Grease-Mogg says: “Fortunately, the Multiannual Financial Framework, which lasts for seven years, will be up for discussion in 2020 so if we are still in, in 2020, we would be able to veto it – causing maximum inconvenience to the European Union. He said: “Equally, Monsieur Macron has come up with a whole slew of new plans to have a more integrated European Union. He wants to tie the whole thing more tightly together as a follow-up, essentially, to the euro. “But that would require treaty change and we would be able to obstruct that. And a European Union army would also require treaty change.” So, it’s not about sovereignty or control, or the changing nature of the EU. We know it’s not about immigration or better trade deals. Neither is it about the constitutional integrity of the UK. It is about some very, very rich people, who are also incredibly selfish, and their tax arrangements.
  12. 2 points
    There are a few people your post could relate to as being at the top. Why don't they 'like' them? Maybe it is because they believe they are not suitable for the job. It's a serious matter.
  13. 2 points
    There are reasons why we need to know what happened. There are reasons why we need to know who was responsible and why. The old cliched excuse of 'lessons have been learnt' etc just isn't good enough here. I'm very much a supporter of the TT and respected its organisers and all those involved for a number of decades, but a few years ago I started seeing people getting in on the organisation who I wasn't happy about. Too many incidents have happened that support my reasoning.
  14. 2 points
    Indeed. Hardly ever because of a single point of failure.
  15. 2 points
    Great practice for the intensive care unit. Every cloud eh?
  16. 2 points
    I don't doubt that one bit. If the same little shit had £1.50 worth of weed on him though he would be in jail now
  17. 2 points
    Local violent criminal = jail non local = exclusion order and boat ticket Tolerance = none
  18. 2 points
    Why were you wearing dog shit brown?
  19. 2 points
    More less than accurate reporting, he wasn't even from Peel.
  20. 2 points
    That is why the report should be made public, not because the blame, and there is blame, is to start a lynch mob but to regain trust of the riders and the public that this event is being properly run with safety being paramount. God only knows the event is dangerous enough for the riders without cock ups like this. It cannot be covered up there was a human error here by a course controller or by a Marshall simple as, the driver of the car was following orders, the rider was following orders, so who gave the orders ?
  21. 2 points
    Yes. How very dare they use the truth to convict wrong uns.
  22. 1 point
    It would be interesting to make comparisons on the INDIRECT tax burden for the same period?
  23. 1 point
    Of course they do. But this is the IOM remember.
  24. 1 point
    Balls. That might be how you think it works but even if that was true as a taxpayer it should at least be expected that those people would release a report that I could read to explain what they did and what went on. That’s called good corporate governance. You don’t just empower people to do what they want unchecked. Reports on their actions should be available for public scrutiny as they are paid by us and are accountable to us.
  25. 1 point
    As a taxpayer if I have contributed to someone’s serious injury by part funding this event I would like to see something to explain what happened.
  26. 1 point
    Since when did paying taxes give you a right to information ? I agree with Gizo that the public have a right to be told why this happened. Nobody needs to know who the person was (maybe) who told the riders to return anti clockwise, but we should be told why there was not a safety net in place to prevent what could have been a disaster. Why was the instruction not verified ? Is nothing repeated or even questioned as a safety measure. We live in the age of communications, so why was this so slack that one person thought they knew what to do without any back up or confirmation ? I feel very sorry for the person, but at the end of the day he did not make the rules or call the shots. The system is f***** up, so people are now wondering what else is wrong in the set up and how it might impact them. Silence is the wrong way to treat the people who allow the event to happen. This is not doing the event any favours at all, as it is just fuelling the anti TT tax payers of which there are more than you might think.
  27. 1 point
    He was a pleasant and interesting bloke. What did he teach? (Just in case it was history or something, but in any case he always spoke sense and his hypothesis regarding the gate houses had logic). If my memory serves, he taught Chemistry. Nice bloke until you crossed him, then it was the cane. His 5 feet long arms could certainly whip that cane across your arse. Spoke with him many times in his little shop after he retired and was really nice.
  28. 1 point
    Since when did paying taxes give you a right to information ?
  29. 1 point
    It isn't important to me at all. No explanation necessary.
  30. 1 point
    Hardly a coverup, it just doesn't suit your agenda not to know every single detail, even when it makes absolutely no difference to anyone outside of the organisation to know. What do you really want to know and why? People such as you are very good at shouting things down but have no real skill in making things happen!
  31. 1 point
    Does anyone know if the pension changes that affect NHS doctors mentioned here in the BMJ will also come into force in the IOM? Could be a problem in future I have thought for some time that the way the gov handle public sector pensions is a significant disincentive for key professionals to move here but this could be a potential extra problem. If we end up having, say, less hospital consultants as a result, our already long waiting lists could become excessive. Someone I know is presently on a 5 month waiting list which I think is more than enough considering 'it' has a small chance of being summat sinister.
  32. 1 point
    The attitude of the British establishment to the victims of the Birmingham bombings, and other atrocities, isn’t good. They’ve had very little support in terms of legal aid and very little political support. Frankly, Chris Mullin’s behaviour, from a politician of all people, stinks. Motorman, Ballymurphy, Bloody Sunday and the collusion with the Loyalists gangs as well as IRA informers were awful. There are still many questions about government collusion and corruption and the way the public and security forces were dealt with that need answering. The British Government, to their credit, have organised inquiries into Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy. On the other hand, the victims of republican terror; Birmingham, Claudy, Guildford, Warrington, Enniskillen, Omagh, La Mon, Kingsmill, Jean McConville, etc, and loyalist terror; the Shankill Butchers, Miami Showband, McGurks, Dublin, Monaghan, The Heights, Greysteel, Castletock, etc. need independent enquiries too. It is too late for justice now. Sadly, justice was the price of peace, but if justice is no longer possible, the very least the victims deserve is the truth.
  33. 1 point
    That's nothing. There are worse assaults than either of those discussed (with more witnesses) that never even made it to Court. Friends in high places.
  34. 1 point
    Corbyn criticised over handling of anti-Semitism cases https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47845390
  35. 1 point
    If they need to spend any money ar all on what was an economoically failed venture before then what's required is an A1 Luvvie batting for the side, preferably a resident Luvvie.
  36. 1 point
    You cannot evidence that statement. The report is should be made public ( the individuals 'responsible need not/ should not be named ) That said after a previous incident the 'parcel of guilt ' was passed around and dumped incorrectly on an individual (who was subsequently exonerated). I marshal and there are a few folk within the organisation (past and present ) who , I did/do not warm to ,would not trust and frankly would cross the road to avoid . I would not like to see the blame shovelled down to the foot soldier (without irrefutable evidence) because it would be 'convenient' . In the case of a train crash it's always handy if you can blame the engine driver.
  37. 1 point
    I'm doing fine but you need to stop putting yourself forward as the Manxforums mental health expert as I doubt you have the qualifications to do so? If you wish to talk about the subject AND NOT ME AGAIN, then please do so. Anything else is intimidation of a forum member whose concerns are justified, and the problems of 5G are what I and thousands of others see as being factual and relevant to peoples safety. I am unconcerned about you as you have made your own choice up in that you do not see 5G as being any problem whatsoever. Thats your call but don't come crying back if you or your family are affected by 5G as you have been informed multiple times. Have a nice day.
  38. 1 point
    Not a million miles but about two feet. Cock up to end all cock ups. Yes it should be made public, if not for the taxpayer who pays for this shite, but for the rider who fancies a go at the TT. It is so unfair to let riders sign up for this farce, without knowing what totally amateur management the so called races are governed by.
  39. 1 point
    The rumour I heard at the time was that the dreadful, fatal accident was being handled very sensitively on the airways as relatives of the rider involved may have heard about it before being informed formally and there was little information being relayed so the Marshall who gave the ok to the riders to proceed the wrong way to to grandstand may not have had all the info. This is what I heard, could be true, could be complete bollocks but it would explain the confusion as some confusion there certainly was as marshalls, as I understand it have to have permission from the clerk of the course before they send any riders back to the grandstand. As I say this is what I heard and may be a million miles away from what happened but the truth should be aired not only for Mercers sake but for every rider who takes part in racing on this Island.
  40. 1 point
  41. 1 point
    Under who’s instruction? What process led to two vehicles going in opposite direction? Why was it necessary to drive at ridiculous speeds to a scene that had resolved itself. There was considerable time in order to stop the riders, get instruction, turn round drive 5 miles back along the course and still a car is hurtling to the scene at 100mph, why? what procedure has changed? Why isn’t this made public? Why can’t the victim know the answers? Any other incident on a road you would. it stinks.
  42. 1 point
    Does that, in itself not sound corrupt ? You tell your lawyer that you killed the person, but because the cops heard that from a covert recorder , it does not matter. Only guilty if you admit it direct or in court ? Fucking load of bollocks. Guilty is guilty,
  43. 1 point
    Which is an environmental disaster area in it's production and still uses fossil fuel in spite of trying to rely on solar generation which still costs a lot environmentally. If Musk really was concerned about the environment he wouldn't be worried about phenomenal 0-60 acceleration and would be creating a simple people/cargo carrier using environmentally safe batteries, (is there such a thing) or inventing a truly environmentally safe source of energy production. But then, that doesn't make money. I've just finished reading , 'Insane Mode', by Hamish Mcenzie, hmm, space rockets? batteries? how very good for the environment. I'm off for my tea now, bye.
  44. 1 point
    As it’s Enterprise I’d put money on Callister trying to be the new Alex Downie networking with the big wigs about ‘stuff’ on the yacht deck.
  45. 1 point
    You'd think we all had 100k+ lying around to see us into the latest Tesla!
  46. 1 point
  47. 1 point
    I agree to a certain extent John, but I'm cynical enough to think that it's not the main mover, given the current situation. If the revenue was also proposed to be demonstrably spent on green issues for the general good, fair enough. However we have yet to hear of any such proposals, although we are of course having the taxation proposed.
  48. 1 point
    I speak as a taxpayer - I have no connection whatever to the Police. For decades, we taxpayers have complained about both the cost of the Police and the fact that they seem to be getting ever more remote from the Public. Lack of foot patrols, lack of engagement, lack of 'Presence' are common complaints. 'Policing can only ever be effective with the support of the public' has been a common mantra. If the Police wish to reverse that process, by re-engaging (via whatever media) with the public in seeking support to root out these knobs, who are nothing more than leeches on society, then I for one will applaud such initiatives, and if we return to a society that rejects the idiots who threaten innocent women, contribute nothing, but cost us taxpayers mega-bucks, then I'm all for supporting any initiatives to deny them cover.
  49. 1 point
    Regardless of this bloke being a total bell end. The police social media presence is embarrassing to be honest. No wonder people take the piss out of what’s said. Get off your asses and track down criminals in real life instead of posting embarrassing shite on social media for other people to read.
  50. 1 point
    I actually grew up with dogs and never really had a thing for cats until one followed us home in Douglas years ago. She simply decided to live at the house after that and it was her who woke me up when the burglar broke in. Being a cat, she was probably scared someone would steal her food, but still, nice gesture for an animal that's usually considered selfish. The ones we have now are all rescues and I would never spend money on buying a cat. All started with one I found outside the office in Makati. She would have died if I left her, so off she went with me: Then I found another one, this time on Manila Bay, same scenario: she had fallen onto the road, no mama cat in sight, so fine: let's have two then. Three and four are from Greece, found outside the office when I worked in Athens Five and six are from Manila again. I cycle to work every day (taking a car in this traffic is simply not an option by now) and found them at the roadside. Couldn't just leave them there, so six it is, even if that was never really the plan. The problem here is that it's very hard to find homes for rescues. Having pets isn't a big thing here yet and if people have one, it's usually a dog to guard the house. So once you take a rescued cat in, you're kinda stuck with it, if you want to or not, something I knew before I committed to any of them. We have tried to re-home another few rescues with bad results and animal charities - if they exist at all - are also always overwhelmed and underfunded, and as a result not really an option. So for now at least the furballs are family and travel and live with us wherever we go, even if it means flying them twice around the globe. Or a third time if I count the move back to IOM. So no, I'm not really your typical cat person, but once you committed to rescuing them, you also can't just dump them again. Having said that, if someone wanted a couple of them, I wouldn't be against it. The last two are sisters anyway and could easily be rehomed. We'll see. For now I need to find a place big enough for all of us. We own our place here and I hope we can find something on the island to make it an easy move within the next month or two. Turns out what they say about the island is true: you can check out, but you'll never leave...
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