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  1. 5 points
    I know I don't voice opinions on this forum very often, and very often my comments concern the wanna be comedians (it is a profession enjoyed by those qualified by the way) who post ludicrous, nasty, personal responses that usualy derail some of the most serious posts. This miscreant is a prime example. Definately no natural sense of humour, just argumentative for the sake of it. Whether you agree or not, there was a time when some serious comments made politicians/'important types' squirm a bit and brought about changes...not any more. Manx Forums has become a laughing stock, just to be ignored. If I was a bit paranoid I might suggest the efforts by certain IOMG employees on here to destroy any credibility MF had has really paid off. How long must this misuse/abuse contiue before someone says simply (sorry 'bout this)...fuck off you horses ass...just fuck off!
  2. 4 points
    I’m going to try and move things away from the specifics of this young girl. None of us know what her background and health issues are, and we aren’t qualified to diagnose. Society has long had a problem with hw to deal with non conforming people, who’s behaviour falls outside the bounds of expected/accepted normality. We’ve used criminal and mental health law to lock them up, historically. Shut them away, so we don’t have to see them, or deal/cope with them. Thats expensive, and in many cases does nothing. It contains the “problem” whilst the person is out of circulation, but it doesn’t help them. Likewise, anti social behaviour orders, they sound good, but are they just setting up people with obsessions, inadequacies, personality disorders, etc, to fail. Low level nuisance behaviour can be a problem. For society, for us. Multiple 999 calls could divert resources away from a real emergency. But do they require prison or inpatient mental health treatment? The sort of behaviour in those charges doesn’t indicate a requirement to be sectioned. There are long, far too long, waiting times for community based mental health, behavioural, emotional referrals and therapy, counselling, cbt or plain listening and support. Its very sad that there aren’t sufficient state resources to head this off. But there are third sector, community services, including Samaritans ( just talking is a great help ). Perhaps we ought to be questioning why there hasn’t been a referral. Of course to be effective the person should self refer, but often isn’t able because they don’t know what to do, or who to turn to because of the whirlwind going on in their heads. Its little different to Ross Ward and his eviction. The support isn’t there, or, when it is, it isn’t being referred or accessed.
  3. 4 points
    Wow, she must have been pretty useless to get so many promotions so quickly!
  4. 3 points
    You seem to be very jealous of most of the people who talk sense on this forum to the point that you constantly heckle them in a very bitter way. I bet you’ve been pedaled out of somewhere in government and have a real bad chip on your shoulder about it all.
  5. 3 points
    The one thing we do know about too many of these cases is that those who make the decisions often don't have all the facts. And don't seem to make much of an attempt find out what they are. Often the main effort is to make it "someone else's problem'"with no coordination even tried between the various agencies of government. That's something which might be understandable in a large country, but in a place as small as the Island, where the people involved may well know each other personally, is simply ridiculous. Look at the Ross Ward eviction that John referred to. Never mind the cruelty of evicting someone so vulnerable and currently in hospital - the whole mess would have ended up costing the taxpayer (and ratepayers) far more than sorting out the comparatively small amount of arrears. But there was a complete unwillingness to take any responsibility - even collectively - and an unwillingness to engage with those in the voluntary sector trying to help. Far safer 'professionally' to go through the procedures and not be criticised for bending them even slightly to fit reality. Of course mental health services can be very susceptible to the "somebody else's problem" approach. It can simply be stated that the person isn't 'really' ill or that you are unable to treat their behaviour. And hope some other part of government will pick up the pieces.
  6. 3 points
    I think this was the last on topic post so let’s begin afresh this morning. It’s a chicken and egg dilemma. Was Ashford chosen to nominate Quayle and placed in the Cabinet Office because his time at the council put him in pole position from the newbies for the next minister’s job? He’d proven his establishment credentials in Council whilst the others were unknown quantities.
  7. 3 points
    There was a report of a previous 'crime spree' by her only a fortnight before in the the paper, which seems to translate a lot of annoying, but not damaging, behaviour. I don't think I've ever read anything that has 'Cry for help' implied as this does. She had already been in prison awaiting trial and sentencing, so she obviously feels safer and that she was getting better treatment there than she was in the community. Which is pretty depressing.
  8. 2 points
  9. 2 points
    It was designed to be flexible, so the divide between the two wards could be changed, with more allocated to elderly, or acute, as required. My personal view is that there is inadequate accommodation, halfway, supported, community living, for patients to be moved on to and insufficient community support. The current consultant is good. She tries to move patients to discharge as quickly as possible, but if they no longer require inpatient treatment, but aren’t ready for home just yet, and there isn’t anywhere for them to go that’s in between there are moral, ethical, and legal issues with keeping them in on section or discharging them.
  10. 2 points
    From my personal experience it was no different then than now. Maybe we were much more discrete. We didn’t read out the embarrassing bits of reports, I still don’t. There were many as many defendants then who couldn’t read or write properly, who’s families and schools had failed them, who had emotional, behavioural, psychological problems. Likewise mental health issues. For some prison was a revolving door. We had fewer community based penalties, no suspended sentences, community service, supervision orders. No Anti Social Behaviour Orders. So, people end up in prison now much later in their careers. Perhaps I come at this with a different perspective to most. I was involved in setting up Samaritans, Victim Support, LGBT counselling organisation, in my spare time, and I’ve sat as Social Security Appeal Chairman for nearly 20 years and as Chairman of The Mental Health Review Tribunal for the last 5, as well as being responsible for setting up the Court and Police Station Duty Advocate schemes. So I see these things from different sides. And crimes change. 40 years ago no one could ring nuisance 999 calls from their home. They had to go to a call box. Less immediacy. More difficult.
  11. 2 points
    I can't understand why we, as an island, are not working towards being as self sufficient in as many things as possible?
  12. 2 points
    Reading the bitter and twisted government supporting tripe he posts on here I’d wager he, or his equally bitter hospital moll, are CV on IOM today.
  13. 2 points
  14. 2 points
    Thanks for the information about those reports. According to the latest (unannounced) one from March, it's certainly a lot less crowded in the prison: Part of the problem is that the the balance between the provision for Old Age patients and the rest is wrong - Glen Ward has free beds and some of its patients are awaiting discharge. Which pretty bad planning when you consider that Manannan Court was only opened two years ago. There are now plans to refurbish Grianagh Court (where they moved from) so that can be used for elderly and adolescent patients, presumably freeing up more space for others, but that will take a couple of years at least to sort out and you wonder why they couldn't have started the refurbishment as soon as it was vacant. As usual there seems to be loads of money to spend on building shiny new buildings at great expense, but less enthusiasm for paying to actually run them. There are clearly other problems with the unit as well, but they all seem to be exacerbated by the simple lack of beds.
  15. 2 points
    I am led to believe they knew each other hence the nomination. That's not to say you may not be on to something but working on your logic Anne Corlett would have been in with a shot. She was not only a Councillor but ran the government canteen. You couldn't get more establishment than the person who helped mould the Chief Minster into the fine figure he is. Granted she hasn't been mayor but that's not saying much if you look at the current incumbent. The other reason they may have given him the ministers role it to stop him asking questions before he stumbled on to something.
  16. 2 points
    Ah, but this is The Isle of Man..... Where You Can Because We're Different!
  17. 2 points
    That's your opinion but it's one small news article. The people who have decided on the course of action have all the facts.
  18. 2 points
    Building the prison close to medical and mental health services would improve availability and access. Somewhere like Ballafletcher... Or we could sack that off and build it 20 miles away?
  19. 2 points
    I sincerely hope that we move away from making senior appointments the 'way we 've always done' and instead adhere to NHS standards whilst appointing to the CEO and Deputy CEO roles that are now vacant. Good guidance on how to make these appointments is available here: https://improvement.nhs.uk/documents/784/senior_appointments_guidance_final.pdf
  20. 2 points
    I started cultivating an allotment for the first time this year. No, this isn't a joke, or an off topic post - I'm absolutely serious. It's my belief that in the next 50-100 years, food shortages are going to do in most of the world's current 7.7 billion people, either directly (actual lack of food) or indirectly (fighting over access to what remains of the food). Might as well practice growing your own while you can still make mistakes without them being fatal.
  21. 1 point
    As Declan said ... what is needed is self restraint, not ASBOs.
  22. 1 point
    You should have had someone proof read your petition.
  23. 1 point
    That comment would have been better received when CW started. Why didn’t you post it then?
  24. 1 point
    I will watch from Spain tomorrow, so be sure to put up a good show, Tosser.
  25. 1 point
    Not on time and not as you predicted. You were embarrassing as hboy and even more in your current form
  26. 1 point
    How desperate must cheesy be to be popular, as to raise a thread from 15 years ago, just to showboat himself ?
  27. 1 point
    Had enough of of your riveting responses. I'm out.
  28. 1 point
    Is CV a person or just a figment of your imagination?
  29. 1 point
    I stand corrected as I found this piece on the nobles exposed site “Ex Hospital Manager, Barbara Scott was effectively demoted during the restructuring of the management staff a few years ago when Mark Charters was in charge. He then brought on board Michaela Morris as the Executive Director to Health and Social Care with the accountability of the hospital. In recent news, Barbara Scott has had secondment to the Chief Executives Office to do Transformation work - not sure where that job was advertised but seems to be a motion to remove her from the hospital altogether...” It seems she was the first deadwood removed but the CEO gave her a made up role, I wonder If Couch and Morris will join Scott in a new made up role. But Scott was not demoted, she appeared a few months later promoted.
  30. 1 point
    A serving Met Officer. So called "Care in the Community" has never worked. Unless the aim was to cut costs in social care that is....
  31. 1 point
    John and Roger are both correct - this is very difficult area (low level Mental Illness) which often results in expensive custodial remedies which are in any case not the correct solution. (I don't know anything about the case or the individual either so I am speaking generally). Since the 'Care in the Community' initiatives started in the 1980's literally hundreds of thousands of MI hospital beds have simply been demolished with the excuse of new medicines being able to solve all issues. Winwick hospital for example (just outside Warrington) simply closed (almost 3,000 beds) - it was one of five such facilities between Manchester and Liverpool alone. Our (at the time) local MI hospital went from 1,300 beds to now having just 28 acute beds. It is invariably full all of the time and the threshold for admission is very high indeed. When Care in the Community was first introduced, there was considerable infrastructure in place to enable people to 'step up or step down' in services according to their needs (which, in these low level cases are invariably cyclical). Discharge from a secure hospital bed would often be to a secure care home, then standard care home specialising in MI, then day care, to eventually settling at some sort of assisted housing. A reversal in needs could often be met by simply going back one step rather than starting all over again. Medicines in this field are truly a great saviour these days (albeit with physical health risks attached) - but what if the individual becomes either forgetful or aggressively non-compliant with regards to taking those meds? Day care centres, or specialist homes can monitor meds compliance and encourage quick action - but day care is now virtually non-existent (across) and specialist care homes are few and far between. Since the 2008 financial crisis, County Councils across (they have the legal funding responsibility) simply raise the threshold of who gets funded. Critical, Acute, Significant, and Moderate all used to be funded (different names apply according to Council) - so four different levels of funding. Now, Significant and Moderate are not funded at all (hence no day care) and the threshold for the higher levels are extremely high - so people who used to cry out for help usually got it, became meds complaint again (or had whatever issue was troubling them resolved). Now? A 'Cry for help' gets you zilch - so either suffer in silence or shout ever louder until you are arrested - which is when your problems start. Police forces across now have access to a system flagging up those with a history of MI. (I fully support that). So a person gets a bit unruly, often to draw attention to their plight, off to the nick, Custody Sergeant sees the MI flag and refuses to take custody as he is not trained (understandable) - Local mental health services called for sectioning, bank holiday, no psychiatrist on duty, only one Approved Social Worker (ASW) on duty to cover a typical large English county, they could be 100 miles away. (Only a psychiatrist or ASW can sign off a section order). No acute bed available, no section, no police cell - back out on to the street - now a risk to either themselves or others...... A specialist Care Home dealing with above costs about 25% of what it takes to imprison someone, but try getting someone funded, hey ho..........
  32. 1 point
    They will need to be put away so they don't give the wrong impression to the droves of cruise passengers alighting at their mega-expensive berthing to go hunting in Douglas for elusive diversions and fridge magnets....
  33. 1 point
    Surely the dilemma is making the best out of what you have...? Wait and see mode in the hope that the next "advisory" opinion piece doesn't get the "Lisvane treatment" as it's know. It often seems to me that the "Collective Responsibility" is all about maintaining the status quo and eff-all else....
  34. 1 point
  35. 1 point
    I think certain posters are deliberately retailing threads with content in them they don't like. It seems to be happening too often now to be anything other than deliberate. I think you might find that the pair know each other from before either went into politics. That might be another factor. Time spent on Douglas Council hardly counts for much in terms of getting a Ministry I’d say.
  36. 1 point
    They are a significant share holder of the Sefton Group, not sure it’s a asset transfer as I think there was a transfer of funds of £7m purchase price to the Sefton group to clear debt
  37. 1 point
    It's more the case that they have been taking away funds away from other areas of the Health Services to pay for the hospital.
  38. 1 point
    Not hard to understand surely ? You posted "your" instead of " you're" or "you are". Yet you call me pathetic.
  39. 1 point
    Oh the irony! How is Paul by the way? Have you told him you mistook him for me yet? Mind you, if the Paul you mistook for me is an over-weight, thinning, happy, retired, well-rounded (literally) individual then it's an easy mistake to make.....
  40. 1 point
    You’re pathetic. You come on here and shout a lot but your full of shite and everyone knows it. What did you all spend the dosh on? Crates of Stella and scratch cards?
  41. 1 point
    Last night you failed to identify the distinction between accusations and questions. Tonight you can’t punctuate. You’re a sorry little failure aren’t you?
  42. 1 point
    Incorrect. There was a recruitment process and she was appointed with the agreement of Mr Charters.
  43. 1 point
    I suspect that you’re alert enough and experienced enough to realise by now that our esteemed “Chief Minister” is a blustering, incompetent, inarticulate oaf who can be relied upon only to fail to achieve.
  44. 1 point
    Morris hasn't been there that long but is a total clown who is out of her depth. If Malcolm recruited her himself then maybe that's why he's going.
  45. 1 point
    Angry keyboard warrior issues midnight internet threat after downing a 6 pack. Wow, you really must be so important.
  46. 1 point
    Life / population and all that - It’s a bit complicated. The present population on our earth is much , much higher than it might of been. The sustained pattern ,until early in the 20th C. was of growth, famine and starvation .It brutally controlled our numbers. The winner of the 1919 Noble prize for chemistry is largely held to be responsible for breaking this grim cycle by developing a means to increase food production. This was achieved by being able to seize the nitrogen, 78% of the air we breathe and combine it with hydrogen to form ammonia then more easily into nitrates - and thence fertilizers. Herr Doctor Fritz Haber, saviour of the world - a man who without doubt saved millions - and more millions from starvation. Hold the applause .. He was also the same Fritz Haber aka war criminal, according to the Allies, post WW1, who was responsible for the instigation and enthusiastic use of chemical warfare in the form of poison gas;His fixation of nitrogen process helped nitrate production- but it was also used for high explosive production in Germany which would have otherwise ground to a halt by mid 1915.by which time they would have had no artillery shells left to fire. He was later involved in the development of organo phosphorous agents to be later marketed as Cyclon B- and we all know where that led. That is complicated. As a post script, Haber hastily left Germany in the late thirties - turns out he was Jewish and the regime, despite how much he had helped his country, really didn’t like that at all. and he fled to....Britain. He died in Switzerland Life/ population and all that - it is a bit complicated.
  47. 1 point
    As well as the function room they've doubled the amount of bedrooms. The fact it's full every weekend with people from all over the island speaks volumes as to what Douglas has become.
  48. 0 points
    Should you not be out there banning the sale of bottled water. A better cause eh ? BTW, I have a lot of respect for JW.
  49. 0 points
    Why not just go for the CEO job then, if you have all the answers?
  50. 0 points
    Sad is the word all right. It's almost as though it was invented just to describe you.....
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