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  1. 6 points
    The opportunity of ceasing the horse trams was given to Tynwald when DBC took the brave decision to stop funding a legacy transport and tourism service. The decision was then put to politicians who listened to the heritage lobby and decided to keep shoveling taxpayers money into the service. I very much doubt whether any significant number of residents actually use the horse teams as a means of transport and I assume, therefore that they are regarded as a tourist attraction. Did any research take place to demonstrate that people came to the Island to get on the horse trams? I expect not. Outside of MNH does anyone honestly believe that the long term future of tourism on the Island is best served by continued investment in quaintness? Is that what future generations of IOM-bound tourists will be looking for? I suspect that the continued capital and revenue investment in horse trams was based more on decisions to avoid short-term controversy than any long-term investment strategy based on returns or value for money. That’s not untypical, of course.
  2. 5 points
    Park and ride in the isle of Man means leaving your car on your drive and getting the bus. We've been through this, it is simply too small and people are too hooked on their cars for it to ever work. Look at the ongoing castletown fiasco for examples of how fucking thick and lazy people are. On the horse trams there really should have been a proper decision made at the start of the prom redesign to knock them on the head. Utterly pointless. But that decision wasn't taken, and now we're stuck with them forever, so we need to figure out how to run and use them in a better way. The current management certainly can't, their solution to everything is charge people more.
  3. 5 points
    I'm sorry MM but I disagree, (in a nice way). Before moving to the Island we visited three times going back to 1970. Since moving here (6 years ago) we receive frequent visitors from the UK. We've got over 100 family members within 30 minutes of Liverpool airport or ferry terminal. Between ourselves and our visitors, not one single person has been to Castle Rushen, Peel Castle, Tramways or the Laxey Wheel, (or horse tram) not one. Two of us went on the Mountain Railway (once was enough). We have pretty much travelled the world, visiting countless attractions, but none of the Island 'attractions' actually attract us or anybody we know. Views and countryside yes, beaches and Glens yes, scenic drives yes, walking round the harbours yes - but none of the 'attractions' raise a flicker of interest, at best we see them as 'Quaint' and tolerate them because the locals seem keen to portray that image of 'quaintness' - we see them as being here to meet the needs of local tradition and heritage for the locals - they certainly do not provide an incentive to travel to the Island in anybody that we know. That's not having a go - I'm just telling it as it is for us and our visitors. I have never, ever heard a single person say 'Let's visit the IOM for trains/horses/ trams, never. If the locals determine that they wish to subsidise these 'attractions' for the sake of 'Manxness' or 'Heritage' then fine, nothing wrong with that whatever - but please do not for one moment think that there are hoards of people across itching to come over for these attractions - because there aint.
  4. 5 points
    There are many talented people on the island, including some quite capable of being a "Manx Care" board and running the proposed "Transformation Programme". Few if any in the Civil Service for pretty obvious reasons, the Civil Service is inherently about bureaucracy and administration not leadership or change so it neither wants nor attracts many of those people. As to who the heck would want to do the job, that's another matter - it's going to be a pretty thankless task. Most of the suitable talent pool on the island doesn't need the hassle, doesn't need the money - similar problems to the inhibitors the island has in trying to get good quality politicians. Key thing is to start with people who are firmly from outside of Gov't. One of the things that worries me most about the Michaels report is the theme that the transformation team should report to the Chief Secretary. I think it should be arms length and reporting to CoMin or Tynwald, not a civil servant and not any specific minister, because otherwise innovation will be stifled.
  5. 4 points
    MB has continued to make a success in the face of being shit on by what passes for Govt and Local Authority on this Island. Did DBC give a damn for what he'd put on and established in Douglas for the past 20+ years when they decided to lick HR's backside (I wonder what greased the palms there). Despite it contributing to what Douglas had to offer over TT? Did they hell. The fact that MB made alternative arrangements and pursued them to success has just proved that given the drive, you can be successful in business on IoM. DESPITE Govt and their mates best efforts. More power to him.
  6. 4 points
    In terms of attacking tourists you have to think about what makes the Island attractive as a place to visit. The uniqueness of the Isle of Man as a place to visit is a combination of the natural beauty, our heritage (Castle Rushen, Peel Castle, the Railway, Tramways, Laxey Wheel etc) all in a relatively compact area. We need to stop trying to turn the Island into a UK town. It is not what we are.
  7. 3 points
    Because it would cost hundreds of millions of pounds.
  8. 3 points
    I think we need to define 'heritage'. Installing a pile of tat that wasn't even made here just to give tourists something to do here is not heritage in my book. Would a tired out unsafe building, such as Summerland had it survived, now be part of our 'heritage'? Don't confuse everything from the past with heritage. It is our failure to introduce newer more in demand modern facilities here that are making us rely on tat. In my book our real heritage sits with the Vikings. If people want to keep the railways...fine...but don't expect the taxpayers to cover your laziness and inability to look after it and market it. And don't expect top dollar which they do.
  9. 3 points
    Sorry Dilli, but you have no idea of the in's and out's of the deal. I can assure you it is a very, very long way from "another give away", far from it actually. You are either extremely ill informed, have an agenda against certain people, or were born an arsehole and have just grown bigger as time went by. Either way, I don't really care which of these issues you have, but whichever it is, doesn't detract from the fact that your assumptions couldn't be further from the truth.
  10. 3 points
    Yes HR did so well last year that 3 weeks before this TT week they still haven't even booked any security or acts and got their license withdrawn by the licensing court. They must have done that well that they couldn’t be arsed doing it all again this year
  11. 3 points
    Yes probably a middle of the road figure of £6M and this from a department which said it would be able to operate the trams more efficiently and save costs over Douglas Corporation. The DOI is pretty much a joke how it can “save” costs by spending £6M of taxpayers money to upgrade something that has made a substantial loss for the last 20 years and more. It’s almost like it’s a competition to see how much money they can actually lose.
  12. 3 points
    So 1200 claimants were costing some £10m. Quite a big number. Some £8300 pa per claimant. I'm not at all convinced of the basis of this action though. The Treasury Team on what salary exactly putting the squeeze on those near the bottom of the food chain to save how much? Based on what? Looks to me like some public servants trying to justify their pampered existance....
  13. 3 points
    Well thanks for that. However, I disagree that I don’t have a perspective. I actually think the dismantling of the north western rail lines in the 70’s was a strategic mistake. I also think the Island has some incredible heritage, scenery and locations. There are some early signs of some real new impetus in focus on both the enjoyment of locals, and the benefit of tourists. However; We are dealing with the here and now. The Island is in a dire mess, across all sectors, and in respect of the horse trams, the time had come to draw a line. DBC actually demonstrated more strategic perspective than IOMG in this case. There are limits to the amount of money that can be literally pissed down the drain, and as we are using the health service in our conversation, 300k equates to around four GP’s or ten nurses. and where did the suggestion that I knew anything about the health service come from? I only worked alongside practitioners daily, and closely for twenty years, and do so daily now. And as for wider Manx life, working in the public sector, seeing first hand how departments ‘work’ and paying my taxes as a resident. Yes, I suppose you are right - clueless! and as for the boat in the morning quip - probably the biggest indictment of what remains wrong with the place. I only offer opinion. I’d be enlightened to hear an expansion of yours some time. Im sure we all would.
  14. 2 points
    Oh dear. Has John closed the Asbo thread so the lunacy has to find another home now? To keep it interesting for the rest of us, perhaps we could have a sweep on which thread it will all kick off on next.
  15. 2 points
    Just fuck off the pair of you!
  16. 2 points
    Heritage Railways are a huge draw across the UK and pull in thousands and thousands of visitors. I've been on loads, Severn Valley, Llangollen, Great Central, been to the railway museums in York (fucking amazing btw) and Crich Tramway museum, they're all really popular and very cool. And I don't even own an anorak! The point Derek Flint made about Sodor is a good one, and it is a huge shame they pulled the other tracks up. That would have been a massive draw. As it is the trains we do have are still a serious draw for tourists. I use them fairly often living down south and there is always someone on them who has traveled specifically because of them. Talk to people, you find stuff out.
  17. 2 points
    He looked like a social pariah at Spamalot the other night, all on his lonesome at the back!
  18. 2 points
    From what I see, you weren’t being picked on
  19. 2 points
    The government decision to hire out the Villa Gardens to Bushys is actually one the best decisions they've made in years. They have known for some time that the gardens should be a superb venue at TT, but frankly haven't a clue how to run it, or indeed any major events anywhere themselves. Hiring it out to an experienced local person/company was the right thing to do. Be interesting to see what it is like when it batters down with rain for days on end though. Gets very wet on those grounds sometimes, the drainage is crap. Anyway, despite Bushys efforts there, Port Erin beach is still THE place to be at TT.
  20. 2 points
    Did you just spell psychotic wrong?
  21. 2 points
    I completely agree, if everyone on the island, man woman, child, cat, dog cow, sheep and pig broke wind at the same time, there would be a pretty much zero effect on worldwide emissions. This is like the IoM declaring war on ISIS, pretty much meaningless. If there were accurate and regular air quality information, we could measure any improvements as they are implemented! As it is we are just following the findings of science fascism which many scientists are afraid to disagree with. I fear that we will soon be banned from driving into Douglas or charged very heavily for doing so. Fuel and road taxes will rise, all to fuel the PS pension and other government waste!
  22. 2 points
    Team from across: UK NHS does not have a good record. They may be such folks but the majority of UK NHS folk would be unsuitable for the transformation bit. UK Health Regulation / Bureaucracy: One of the greatest inhibitors to progress in the UK NHS because it is so complex that nobody wants to risk trying to invent a better wheel, the regulatory environment stifles change - but it can be done. I was part of an external organisation that forced the NHS (kicking and screaming) to adopt changes to a particular part of NHS "Guidelines", and by 'eck they fought back. (And no, I'm not putting myself up for any part of this). Change / transformation is about communication, motivation, will, coordination and enablement. Let the health professionals worry about how to change operating methods whilst remaining compliant, the job of the change leadership is to make those professionals want the change, see that it is possible, and support them in achieving it. Not going to be easy, but it is do-able.
  23. 2 points
    You kind of get the impression that the climate emergency headline is to try and distract attention away from the fact that they are still doing fuck all about it apart from the pissing about around the edges. I suppose when you have a chief minister who drives a v8 Jag and an environment minister who drives a range rover, any action was never going to be particularly radical. A load of condescending crap!
  24. 2 points
    Sorry you sounded somewhat hot, my mistake. Do we give up on what? The stuff makes us huge loses and year by year less and less people are in the demographic who care whether we have horse trams or not. I drive across the prom daily and so I do see the type of people who are on the trams and their age group. I also doubt that anyone outside of a few social misfits ever go “Let’s go to the IOM so I can ride on a load of Victorian junk”. It’s just something to do when your here. If it wasn’t here people would just do something else. The Victorians would be laughing at us if they could see us now. They were forward thinking and innovative. Once something was outside of its working life they’d rip it out and put something better and more efficient in. That’s the way the economy worked. That’s why the funicular railways came out, and the train line to Peel and Ramsey, and the lift to the Falcon Cliff etc. it was all past it’s sell-by date and no longer needed as better and more efficient things came along. One of the main things the IOM needs to do to show it’s a modern forward thinking place for people to come to live and work in is to rip that sad old traffic-blocking nags show out and replace it with a modern electric tram system that people would use daily.
  25. 2 points
    Now I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that point of view - but the 'total offering' needs at least some profit centres! Trams trains and horses all lose money, as do (allegedly) many Victorian type hotels. I have my own suspicions about the TT too but that's another story. Shuffling coach loads of the masses between a raft of loss-making attractions may make the place look a bit busier - but is it actually doing as well as it might with a hell of a lot less public sector interference? I could (and would) consider a leisure-sector type business here were it not for the fact that the more I look, the more I see a very few vested interests (brewery, government) stitching things up to make sure that any income goes to them - so I keep my hands in my pockets until I see a change in attitude (but I'm not holding my breath). I came across to the Island taking the 'Where you can' statement at face value, but the more I look.....................
  26. 2 points
    ..............of the wider benefit to the economy as a visitor destination. We need things that set us apart as part of the total offering. Otherwise, why should anyone bother to set foot on the ferry or plane to come here?
  27. 2 points
    The expression is very well known even amongst the scarcely literate.
  28. 2 points
    So you’re saying that he doesn’t * Buy all the beer and spirits * Pay all the staff * Pay all the bands to perform * Pay all the security staff * Pay all the lighting and sound engineers to put the sets up * Pay rent to government for the site Oh right, not really a plausible argument is it?
  29. 2 points
    But they did convince you wearing pringle was 'cool'...
  30. 2 points
    On other threads you defend terrorist murders of British soldiers and claim the Middle East as your homeland, and now you’re lying through your teeth to claim your obvious ignorance of spelling carried some subtle point. You really are a thick and nasty troll.
  31. 2 points
    This is well documented in this and previous threads. To give a flavour: 1. Mr stanfield cajoled the Louis group opened their building and enjoyed trips at the benefit of mr lakos, who is one of the directors banned from serving as a director by the FSC along of course with current pastor Rousseau moss also banned. I’m sure those that contributed to Louis group under the favour of living hope certainly feel aggrieved. 2. I know personally of people who attended the church in the past and dared to question the methods adopted by the leadership in never ending world wide mission trips and free gratis benefits like rent being paid whilst trying to find a house while selling their own, and all at the expense of the flock. Their questioning was met with pure venom and they were named as slanderers and where blackballed by not only the leadership but also by other members and set up as an example of how control meant no questioning was allowed. The leadership know best. They have been greatly disturbed by the hurtful ness of the experience and in many cases never went near another church, never mind the fact that in some cases the leadership would actually have born false witness to other leaders in other churches about the members behaviour. To give a flavour of this doctrine check out chris staples latest blog.https://www.four12global.com/authors/chrisstaples/dont-do-the-devils-work-for-him/ 3. The “house” nothing more needs said. 4. The secretive nature of their control now. People leave and are scared to speak up as the teaching in the church is that in speaking out against the “work” you are doing the devils work. 5. How they moved from being a satellite church of broadway baptist to getting broadway trustees to disassociate themselves from control of port st Mary church so mr stanfield could take control of all finances through his chosen directors many of whom are the pastors, deciding things like wages etc. 6. The desire to distance themselves from any other church on the island and whilst they cunningly would negate this by saying they are in various bodies that work together the reality is they see themselves as the only real church that has it right. See what happened in the schools. Many years of great work by scripture union and other church charities were nearly done away with due to people’s reluctance to have any living hope people about the place. Just a taste of many worrying things.
  32. 2 points
    Sadly that will be the end result. The CS is almost the entire problem we have with the IOM. Everything would function perfectly well, and be perfectly more effective without most of the fuckers. This will be just another CS non-job creation scheme by the time they’re done.
  33. 2 points
    Fuck me that is pure class. So it’s a bit like joining the SAS then? Sign me up for the next apprentice weather forecaster!
  34. 2 points
  35. 2 points
    Maybe have a look at some of their happy clappy videos and then ask yourself if those younger people have not been brainwashed, conned or hoodwinked.
  36. 2 points
    All those in receipt of a civil service pension should be made to do this sort of thing up until normal retirement age to justify their pension. I say made, I'd prefer if it was voluntary, just make the ones that won't volunteer.
  37. 2 points
    Absolutely right Steve. Reporting to the Chief Secretary (whoever that may be) will be a pointless exercise, transformation will never happen as it will be just be one round of meeting after another. An endless cycle of blah blah blah. It would be better if the Board reported to a specially set up Tynwald Committee that kicks ass to make sure it all gets done and on time. Assuming the timetable for transformation set by Michael is correct then someone/body should ensure that the milestones are met and kept on track. That won't happen if reporting done via the CS.
  38. 2 points
    so what is the truth or is it commercial secret?
  39. 2 points
    Even the police command team get by with one PA between the seven of them- and she is paid a lot less than this
  40. 2 points
    It’s a good question. With the right strategy and another 20 miles of track, the IOM would have basically been the Island of Sodor. It doesn’t take a marketing genius to work out how to exploit the families tourism market with that one. and on top of that, grown up enthusiasts would have surely wanted to come to what would certainly have been the largest preserved system in the British Isles.
  41. 2 points
    And worked with them, and social care on an almost daily basis. Police surgeons, ambulance , ED doctors, mental health practitioners management staff. I’m also a service user, having had major surgery twice in 12 months. I’m also someo who tends to build relationshipS with people who are going to cut holes in me. I also know many staff on a social level. Do you think fellow professionals never talked about the positives and negatives of their respective professions? I know enough to know that the ground level do the very best job they can with the hand they are dealt. I also know that the structure of management and overall approach didn’t necessarily make that easy. I dearly hope the govt appoint the right team to get the job done, and quickly. What I do know, is it isn’t going to be cheap. Reading the report I can recognise where some influence has been brought to bear. Those people have tremendous vision, but it will mean the transformation of buildings and infrastructure as well as workforce. of course, I concede, I could just be making all this up.
  42. 2 points
    I deliberately chose to use Erie for reasons that are probably lost on you.
  43. 2 points
    I've just been reading some of "Notwell's" contributions in the above links to the past debate....Bushy's tent "smelling of piss and the new operators going to move things forward"... Well, we can see where that got us.
  44. 2 points
    Grow grass and hedges. Then trim them now and again. You can get huge subsidies for that.
  45. 2 points
    Gestures are cheap. Bandwagons are plentiful. Credibility is low.
  46. 2 points
    No need to panic... I think this is going to be a very ‘Manx’ emergency... so far the only policies I’ve seen related to this announcement are the banning of fossil fuel fired domestic boilers in all new homes and the same for vehicles, both of which were going to happen anyway whether the IOM chose to or not - unless I’ve missed a few dedicated fossil fuel engine and boiler manufacturers hiding out round here. But the highlight surely has to be... a BAN on Peat cutting, WITHIN MONTHS! And no I’m not making that up, stated WITHIN MONTHS - like that was really the point which underlined how serious they’re taking it now. Anyone know anyone still cutting Peat? Strangely no mention of large scale power production or jet fuel for global political jollies.
  47. 1 point
    Is he? Does he? Didn't know that. You've said pretty much what I said. Eire means Ireland, so why the angst about a word? The RoI constitution may have dropped the claim to NI, but that doesn't mean republicans in general have. It's still a bit Irish that the word for Ireland in the Irish language is considered to be a pejorative in my book.
  48. 1 point
    Raj just wanted to buy his way in. Now he hasn’t been able to do that he’s lost interest. Just like all his other projects which litter Douglas either empty, half built, or lying in ruin.
  49. 1 point
    Will we be given subsidies for solar panels and or wind turbines? That would be nice.
  50. 1 point
    I anticipate that Michaels would view the membership of the Manx Care Board itself (let’s say 5 people...perhaps a few more) as derived from, say, a prominent successful businessman, a third sector “leader”, a respected retired clinician, a second person with a commercial background and “community leader” (whatever that actually means) along the lines of the Boards that run UK NHS Foundation Trusts, of which, of course, Michaels has chaired several. The managerial structure of Manx Care will largely be the existing DHSC “delivery” personnel, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see an appointment from off-Island as CEO of Manx Care (I’d be pretty certain it will have one). Just as long as they don’t replicate Charters. Edited to add - a quick Google has shown that the UK's Health and Social Act 2012 sets out details of the roles and responsibilities of Foundation Trust Governors and Members, with the former seemingly appointed by way of elections. This all seems a little elaborate for us, if it's a model that Michaels favours for Manx Care. One other thing I'd be wary of is that, while Michaels is right to highlight to the need for patient/public involvement in healthcare delivery matters, there's always a risk with any public involvement of it gravitating towards the zealots, because people with an agenda are always the ones who get off their arses. Their agenda is very infrequently our agenda. I see that the Health and Care Association (HACA) have already been in Manx Radio's website headlines pushing their view. Whereas HACA may be sweetness and light now for all I know, it needs to be remembered that it was set up by Beecroft and the sceptic in me anticipates that it may well still be a vehicle for the voice of Beecroft. Now that's a voice that we certainly don't need in shaping healthcare delivery!
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