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  1. 6 points
    And so it turned out to be. One and a half pages of pure blather from Skelly[1]. I won't try anyone's patience by quoting it all. I won't even recommend reading it to bore yourself to sleep as the dullness of the prose may be countered by irritation that someone was paid to produce this ridiculous nonsense. In so far as Bettison's question is answered it's in the shortest paragraph: Now AVE is basically nonsense - there's a demolition of it here. It dates back to the days when most advertising was print and you just measured the area of the article that mentioned you product and calculated how much the newspaper would have charged you if that was an advert. They then multiply that by a magic number (up to 12) because look over there a squirrel. Even in the days of print it was something that PR companies only used to bamboozle their stupider clients. But when so much is now done via the internet, it's really meaningless. Especially because internet responses are much easier to measure - you can see how many users visited a page, where they came from and so on. Especially given that this 'campaign' was supposed to be an internet sensation and 'gone viral' and all the rest, you would expect they would have all the metrics. They obviously don't and are left with dated mumbo-jumbo. There's a rather telling final paragraph as well: You'd have though the time to do that was when they were planning this project a year ago. In reality you suspect that nothing was actually planned at all. Someone commissioned these off the top of their head and they've spent the time since running around like headless chickens trying to justify it. [1] Well with Skelly's name attached. He certainly didn't write it and for all we know he may not have even read it.
  2. 4 points
    From reading the article, he was fined for disorderly conduct on licensed premises and not dancing erratically (or any other way). Had I been dancing and accidentally knocked someone else's drink over, I would have apologized and offered to replace it. Problem solved. This man however was engaged in a heated discussion with another customer which resulted in the security staff asking him to leave. He refused to do this and instead resisted. At any stage before resisting security he could've easily gotten out of the situation and probably continued drinking. He chose his own path here as we all do.
  3. 4 points
  4. 3 points
    There's not much chance of someone being killed by crossing a road 10 minutes before racing starts. Things are starting to get a bit hysterical now.
  5. 3 points
    The problem with most tourist spend is it focuses solely on the tourist. But why shouldn't it benefit the locals too? Make the place a better place to spend your leisure time - it becomes a better place to visit. It's like all the moaning about the regeneration money spent a few years ago. But now Castletown, Douglas Quay etc are much more pleasant places to visit for tourists and locals. Yet I bet no-one came to the Island simply because of the granite in Castletown Square. It all adds up. And while we're stamping our feet about £28k that has had an obvious tangible positive impact, what trivial bureaucratic things are the spending far more on?
  6. 2 points
    Have you ever read such bollox? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/all-heritage-railways-make-a-loss-says-doi-minister/ More like a loss of £500k AND £700. The only 'misconception' here was Harmer's about 50 years ago .
  7. 2 points
    Bettison's question and the answer given are quite interesting: As usual it's what isn't answered that's the most revealing. Of course any agreements under which aircraft from foreign airforces could use Ronaldsway will be set by the UK. If 20 Russian troop carriers decided to land would we just shrug our shoulders? But the Manx Government must know what the agreements are, so they can enforce them - why not say what they are? Or even that they are secret. Similarly the idea that they don't know who has been using the airport is nonsense. Airports have to record and keep enormous amounts of data (as any visit to the CAA site will show) and it should be accessible. If nothing else there should be records of the payments of landing charges etc that should be easy to get at. Now if there are security reasons for keeping this quiet, say so, but stop insulting our intelligence.
  8. 2 points
    I like the fairy houses; we spent a few nice afternoons tracking them down and have subsequently been back with visiting friends and family; patronising cafes and pubs that we wouldn’t otherwise have gone to. If I had the time I’d be tempted to make one of my own and put it somewhere just to confuse people. But……… They really ought to have been manufactured locally. A guide to sites of folklore interest should have been produced ready to go when they appeared; tie it in with a series of walks that go past pubs and cafes. The visit Isle of Man site is generally poor at raising awareness of the less well known sites of interest on the Island; I only recently discovered that there are the remains of a Norman motte and bailey in Ballafesson and a civil war fort somewhere on the Island; both sites I’d like to visit; I’m sure there are more. DfE seem to like throwing money at the grand projects but neglect the cheaper, easier basics.
  9. 2 points
    But the moaning wasn't about the idea of regeneration, it was the way it was done. Large amounts of money was spent on changes dictated by the DoI's supply contracts and which tended to reduce the distinctiveness of the Island's different areas by giving them the same look. And it's the variety that the Island offers that tends to attract and surprise visitors and which locals enjoy. They don't want places to end up looking like every urban regeneration scheme in England. What benefits there have been could have been achieved at much less expense, sometimes very little.
  10. 2 points
    No maybe about it. Despite all the more qualified and experienced people telling you are wrong, despite all the evidence that shows you that you are wrong, you still persist in this fools errand. You are desperately looking for something, anything to make you feel "valued" and donning the mantle of safety crusader against the evil 5G is somehow filling that void in your life. At this point I can't tell if you are taking the piss like PGW or you genuinely believe this tripe, but you need to sort yourself out.
  11. 2 points
    Declan is Laurence Skelly or Rob Callister and I claim my £5. 1. As a tax payer I'm not paying people to have "nice things to do". I want to see positive, well-thought out strategy. Not things cobbled up on the hoof. 2. They were £6500-odd each 3. One has lasted approximately a year before being trashed to the point of needing repair 4. "Giving locals something to do" is not part of the tourist economy in respect of attracting said tourists here. And having done it once they then revert to what they were doing before or find something else to do.
  12. 2 points
    It can be justified - It was a nice thing to do Was popular with locals - going out looking for them It generated some off island coverage It adds to the range of things that you can do and see here It supports an alternative tourist proposition than simply motorcycling, one drawing on the uniqueness of the Island's culture and folklore Essentially, it was an inexpensive addition to the Island's tourist offering, that generated publicity. It would have been naive to expect people to visit just for them. And it was inexpensive - less than a year's salary for a fairly junior civil servant (and no pension liability), a quarter of what they pay Manx Radio to broadcast the TT. We spend millions to support the TT because it supports the tourist industry. This is a few thousand, it brought joy to locals, raised the islands profile and made the island a slightly nicer place to live and visit and no one died, no one was late to work, no one danced erratically in Jaks or set up a fund raising page to cover fines for crossing a road.
  13. 2 points
    Pitched at the correct level for that department in that case !
  14. 2 points
    So were the prices for cottage industry...
  15. 2 points
    Thank you! And you should post less. So I guess the universe is in balance.
  16. 1 point
    I see Clare Bettison is busy asking questions about the use of Ronaldsway for the training of Saudi Arabian Airforce Pilots using BAE Hawk Jets. The Celtic League and Mr Moffat have been protesting for a while against the use of Ronaldsway. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ministers-should-oppose-saudi-use-of-airport-says-mhk/ Mrs Bettison Wishes Comin to protest most striongly. I’m afraid COMIN will be ineffective, especially if there are any commercial relationships involving Manx Businesses or the Chamber of Commerce. Certain COMIN members I’m sure, will jump at the opportunity if any crumbs from the big Saudi table fell into their lap. In the meantime, if these recalcitant members wish to moan - remember this - Arrospace Cluster Ronaldsway Aircraft Swagelock Triumph im sure these few named Manx Establishment firms are making component parts for BAE Jets, be it Typhoons, Hawks and the new breed of aircrafts. I’m sure that Douglas East May have some constituents who may work at one of those places. Having ideals and principles are great, but not great if anyone made redundant or god forbid, the factory ceases production. I’m sure Bernie and his comrades will be working long hours in the foodbank to help feed the redundant workers. Incidentally it’s coming up to 5 July 2019, the National Day, in the middle of Douglas Bay will be a Warship or Frigate with a detachment of troops who provide the musical entertainment at Government House and Tynpotwald Fairground. Are we to have full scale protests on the Fairfield?
  17. 1 point
    Have you reported your "thinking cap" as missing , believed stolen ?
  18. 1 point
    does that mean that with no beers you do act like some idiot?
  19. 1 point
    Did he call out an SOS?
  20. 1 point
    Maybe we just disagree as to what the appropriate level of healthy scepticism is. I've just gone through a couple of days of fighting with data collection processes and recording systems to get the right sort of data out that I need for what presumably was a simple job so I'm maybe a bit biased on the other side atm.
  21. 1 point
    There's been nothing but carnage since the Tufty club folded.
  22. 1 point
    They have had spectators hurt and killed but I'm not sure about crossing the roads? It's like everything on the IoM these days, we over react to everything without proper perspective. People need proper warnings, expecting them to know and understand the ramifications just because we do is not enough. many people are new to the event, every year!
  23. 1 point
    If they start turning up at weddings...Gran, auntie Agnes and most father in laws will be in deep shit.
  24. 1 point
    Maybe touch-and-go's count as utilisation but don't count as actual landings so wouldn't generate fees. A little further googling brings up Ronaldsway's fees: Maybe the fees for military aircraft are done through the defence payment and individual movements aren't recorded. Feels as if there might be a number of credible reasons why this info wasn't available, but in contrast you would in theory be able to get a very granular breakdown of commercial movements by airline easy peasy.
  25. 1 point
    Some very good points there. Thick people like Moffat should bear the potential consequences in mind. Plus there's a lot of middle eastern money invested via here. They should be protesting UK gov involvement in Yemen in London rather than the island.
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    The motte and bailey (Fairy Hill) is/are visible from the public road but are situated on private land, although a public footpath runs close by. However, I’m pretty sure that there’s an annual visit on to the motte and bailey as part of the Heritage Weekends run by MNH each October. The civil war fort at Kerroogarroo is featured in one of Charles Guard’s “curiosity” DVDs and clips about the fort, from his video, are on YouTube. Edited to add - Ballafesson is built in the style of, and using the same techniques as, the Normans, but was not built by Normans - it’s from the Island’s Norse era.
  28. 1 point
    There's a bit of truth in that, in that far too often too much time can be spent discussing small, understandable items rather than where the actual money goes - Parkinson's Law of Triviality is always a strong influence in politics and the media and not just on the Isle of Man[1]. But such thing can become important when they epitomise larger structural problems in an organisation. In fact they can often work as a metaphor for how big projects are tackled. In this case Skelly's rambling answer filled with tired jargon illuminates how poor and out-of-date the DfE is at assessing whether marketing and PR work. They just repeat whatever guff they're fed by the PR people when modern media give far more nuanced ways of seeing how your message is getting out. The attitude is that you throw money at something and hope (or at least pretend) that some of it has stuck. We all know that doesn't just apply to fairy houses and highlighting it might make help restrain similar attitudes elsewhere in government. Or not, because there seems little sense of responsibility there at the moment. It also shows how government tends to ignore stuff generated for free by locals while happy to spend loads to replicate it. I pointed out on a previous thread that a lot of this just repeats stuff done in Castletown the year before. Though it didn't take them an extra year to produce a leaflet advertising it[2]. Again the attitude seems to be that such things are only worth doing if a lot of money is spent doing them - which in turn then justifies the jobs and level of earnings of those making the decisions. There are also other areas that this illuminates such as the way procurement methods are ignored whenever those in charge feel live it. Sometimes such concerns are easier to show in 'trivial' cases than in bigger ones. So providing critics don't restrict themselves to such examples, but use them to show up systemic errors, such questions can be very useful. The real problem is that many politicians don't even start with the small stuff never mind move on to more important things. [1] Parkinson lived here in the Eighties, but we can't claim to have inspired him as this appears in his first book on the subject in 1957. [2] Obviously nowadays most such things are read electronically which should make production even quicker.
  29. 1 point
    (mod made) Oh Bravo for your quickness of wit and your geriatric dribble. Desperately looking for something? You could be right there but common sense isn't one of your strong points and looking past the set of blinkers you're wearing doesn't seem to help you at all. And if you weren't such a twit, you'd see links to experienced people among the many videos but again, you're like the three monkeys - see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil. Yep sums you up you self serving shallow ego tripper. So don't speak to me about sorting my life out when you need to start looking inwardly at yourself because the mirror you're using at the moment is warped to hell.
  30. 1 point
    Lol. World - listen up! A 3 year old car is cheaper and just as reliable as a new car!!
  31. 1 point
    That's fabulous. Isn't it missing a third sosig and birds nest though?!
  32. 1 point
    Funnily enough Wrighty I have never had an issue with bouncers either like you though I don't get steaming drunk and if they ask me to leave/refuse me entry I go on my way. We just must be lucky.
  33. 1 point
    In which case Skelly and his heroes responsible for this should be brought before PAC to answer why they spent money on something that can't be justified. You might think the amount is minuscule but it's public money and needs justifying.
  34. 1 point
    Yes, I saw that. Was even on webcam for a short while.
  35. 1 point
    The sort of club who decided that you were a complete prick.
  36. 1 point
    Sorry, but Vettel is a fighter, just like drivers were 10 years ago. Like he says today in the press, F1 is not like it was and that is to it's detriment. It is a circus these days and the ability of the drivers has been taken over by tech. and stupid rules. I think the best F1 days were when Nigel Mansell was racing, with the likes of Senna, Prost et al.
  37. 1 point
    Ah bless, snowflake is out again. Do you take every opportunity you can to be offended on others behalf?
  38. 1 point
    They didn't though, did they? Bleakley and Chiles were a total flop on ITV. Tebbit's OK and so was Maggie. Much misunderstood. Who is sensible PK? You must introduce us sometime. Now, I've got this new format for MotD all worked out. You can be Lineker if you want, and do the merry quips. I've decided to recruit Quilpy too and he and I will do the in-depth analysis. I suggest we pitch it at 50% of what the current wasters are on and negotiate from there. BBC are a pushover. Easiest deal ever done.
  39. 1 point
    WE paid lawyers.....
  40. 1 point
    A case in point of an ego the size of London massaged willingly for years by the beeb. Even after he took the piss on air and deserted them, they still invited him back with open arms and paid him £2million a year. Cretins.
  41. 1 point
    Of course this stuff goes on in offices throughout government but when a civil servant's empire is going on behind computer screens and going to meetings to perpetuate the empire then it can all go unnoticed. At least there was a tangible outcome to the original post - a sign got put up.
  42. 1 point
    Aye.... a political member for fairies is not a position that I'd put my hand up for when HRH Chief Minister is handing out the shillings!
  43. 1 point
    Lets not forget its saved millions in Health Care due to the number of parents and grandparents that have forced to go out looking for them on a wet and windy Sunday who are now amongst the fittest people in the British Isles.
  44. 1 point
    About 6.495million specific visits with the sole purpose of visiting the slightly weather worn/vandalised fairy houses. Such sightings/visits can easily be assessed by completely making a number up. Can I have a job at DfE?
  45. 1 point
    I am glad I revived this old thread, it is proving very interesting and providing a sensible discussion of the topic. (It just shows how very useful MF can be to the community when not abused by members posting rubbish). Thanks to those who responded. My sudden interest in leasing my next car was triggered by a conversation with a locally based car trader who said anybody who buys a car, be it new or second hand, in today's market is wasting their money. Technology and regulations are now changing so fast that it is impossible for the layman to predict values or trends. 'Let the trade take the risk', he said. He has no axe to grind as he is now retired, but was very successful in his day. Where we differed is that I would like an electric car. His advice was don't touch them. He thinks petrol is always the way to go. I still plan to stick to my fairly green credentials if I can find a suitable deal. I have sent off a few email enquiries and I will let you know how it goes.
  46. 1 point
    If they were made here from local materials, by men in sheds, local craft artists etc, it would have been cheaper and generated far more positive publicity, due to the pride in the local involvement and heritage. The fact it was outsourced at a ridiculous cost just tarnishes the whole project, and has lead to its subsequent criticism x
  47. 1 point
    It'll be all due to excessive wear and tear. Very few domestic properties are designed for 30+ Tynwalders residing with the fairies full time.
  48. 1 point
    I’d have had a go. I’d have subbed the job to Men In Sheds.
  49. 1 point
    Am I right in that this was an off Island company too? that is the bit that is puzzles me.
  50. 0 points
    Perhaps we will be declaring war on Saudi Arabia? The comedy value might raise more awareness than a bunch of half wits standing outside the airport?
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