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  1. Salon and First Class dining saloon from 1927 Ben. These date from about 1963/4. The Lady was more or less identical. They were both refurbished after WW2 and were much less opulent than their pre WW2 fit out.
    8 points
  2. I very much doubt that covid is circulating in the community here. We have had a fair bit of freedom of movement and return to work here now for several weeks, and have seen no uptick in cases of respiratory illness, or calls to 111 etc. If we had circulating cases we'd expect to be admitting about 1 in 20 of them to hospital and that hasn't happened. I do however share your concerns regarding the control of keyworkers, and we've all seen a couple of cases in the news recently regarding this. And with prevalence apparently on the rise in the UK as a whole (ONS figures suggests it's gone
    7 points
  3. There's a new lad on the Late Show tonight that I hope you'll all support. Tune in at 10:00pm.
    7 points
  4. The notion also fails to take into account the different parties involved at the time relative to the parties that exist today. For example, the slave trade between the British Isles and North America only accounted for about 10% of worldwide slave trade. Likewise, in the US, only 2% of the population in Confederate states owned slaves, which means less than 1% of the entire US population. Add to this the fact so many of the “white” population of the US migrated there decades after slavery had already been abolished. Most of the Germans, Italians, Irish, Jews, Russians, and Poles arrived in ma
    6 points
  5. No - it 'needs' younger taxpayers - not people extending the waiting lists at the hospital.
    6 points
  6. In the spirit of positivity I will say the lady of man was my all time favourite steampacket boat
    6 points
  7. Yes, that is quite an achievement. Wish they would bring back the oiled wool jumpers though! Would definitely have one.
    6 points
  8. The Isle of Man Steam Packet Company Limited celebrates it's 190th birthday today and is the oldest continually operating passenger shipping company in the world. Originally called the Mona's Isle Company, it was formed after the princely sum of £6,000 was raised! Whatever gripes and moans we all have about it, we should be proud of the consistent service it has provided as the Island's lifeline over all of this time. Happy Birthday! (Can't hurt to have the occasional positive post can it?!)
    5 points
  9. Sequence: Totally Closed...Managed repatriation...free travel for locals with arrivals quarantined...Free travel for all with testing/risk mitigation...free travel for all no restrictions Timing: This really has to depend on the prevalence in the UK. I've tried to model this based on other jurisdictions but my predictions fell down at the first hurdle since the UK are not panning out the same as others have done - instead of infection prevalence halving every 23 days they've increased! If you know the UK prevalence, you can calculate an expected number of covid positive arrivals accordin
    5 points
  10. Nah. That'd be just like sitting at home. How many of us would remember anything of our long past journeys on the Steam Packet as recounted here had we just sat looking at a gizmo the whole time we were aboard? How depressing, and how very typical of today.
    5 points
  11. Lets drop the name the Director of Highways Mr Jeff Robinson in here again, just so everyone knows that Longworth and Black aren't the only utter wankers involved.
    5 points
  12. No thanks.
    5 points
  13. The previous Ben-my-Chree, the Manx Maid and the Mona's Queen were my favourites. They seemed like classics to me. And those formidable babushkas in nurses' hats who ran the quiet lounges before they were converted. I always found that the sound of the engines down there was great for getting to sleep. Much better than the crappy videos. And fresh Manx kippers are for sale by the gang plank. Last chance.
    4 points
  14. I remember announcements on the old old Ben or Lady and on the sisters announcing that the commodore chef was on board. The old dining rooms down in the bow were splendid, carvery trollies with big domes, lots of silver cutlery, marked crockery, chafing dishes, food served under domes, flourished reveals. Thinking back my best trips to/from the island were with non steam packet boats. Stella Marina to Fleetwood ( my grandfather lived in Cleveleys ) and St Seriol to/from Llandudno ( my other grandparents were on holiday in Llandudno. I was about 5. I got taken down into the engi
    4 points
  15. He should be allowed to take comments by text about interesting happenings it will be like the other two stations if it is just unadulterated music. Black is black I believe is the new introductory music followed by That old black magic. My god he is going to have to be super careful what tunes he plays. Meanwhile the Bishop is scouring the cemetery’s for slaves graves. What a carry on.
    4 points
  16. Lots of the late C19 and post WW1 boats weren’t built for either the steam packet or the Irish Sea. I was thinking about what I miss. Definitely the (First Class) Dining Saloon and silver service. Oasis of calm on winter sailings, with a menu you didn’t have to read, because it didn’t change for years. Poached Greenland Halibut, Manx Lamb, Kippers, Apple Pie and cream.
    4 points
  17. TBH, there probably wasn't any need for mental gymnastics as the two issues most likely were viewed as completely separate with no hypocrisy. This was a time when views were generally quite unempathetic with any group of people who were in the "lower orders", be they black, poor, children of the poor, disabled, non-Christian and so on. We find child labour abhorrent, if not baffling, but the prevailing view was that as they were the offspring of poor, thus products of lazy, ungodly, immoral and dishonest people, so it was quite justifiable to send them up chimneys or into weaving looms
    4 points
  18. Scouse voice: "Meals are now being served in the dining saloon"
    3 points
  19. And in particular, one or two individuals at its top tiers.
    3 points
  20. In days gone by the chefs wore the customary white jacket. I see the so-called chef on today's boats wearing the same. Not sure they deserve to when the maximum amount of actual cooking they do is grilling a bit of bacon and frying the odd egg!
    3 points
  21. Wish I had the same recall for these boats. Sea-sickness ruined many a voyage for me and even reading some of these posts is bringing back sense memories. It was usually just finding a seat and hunkering down with eyes on the horizon for me. 190 years is a fantastic achievement though, whatever the bumps along the way.
    3 points
  22. When I was a butcher boy at school, we supplied the Steam Packet's meat. What an adventure jumping across two boats to get to the third one when the fleet was in. Sometimes ending up in Douglas Bay while one of the other boats was allowed out. We were often going aboard just as the boat was sailing or had just arrived, depending on the sailing sheet, which we were issued with weekly to organise deliveries. The manager would take the orders from the chief steward, his visits had to be timed to perfection. It was almost like a military operation as the boats were stocked by various suppliers on
    3 points
  23. Listening to Mr Baker on mannin line. Am I alone in thinking he sounds totally out of his depth. He seemed to have problems actually stringing words together to make a sentence. I finished off feeling sorry for him.
    3 points
  24. This isn't about holidays. I'm young enough to enjoy many more of those. I also grew up never going abroad much really so it is no big deal. But that isn't what this is about long term. The borders need, at some stage, to be opened to allow businesses to function, to allow the enormous amount of none manx people that live here to visit relatives etc and vice versa. Indefinitely closing borders will destroy tourism based business. There will be no airlines. As I've said, we need to work out how we can function in a future that won't be covid free.
    3 points
  25. Look, I want to go on holiday as much as anyone else. However, why risk it when there is a wave of infection taking off? Other countries are trying different types of quarantine and isolation. Wait and see what works. Then follow that. The majority of the Islands income is secure. Yes, there will be une,ployment. Opening borders is not going to help or change that.
    3 points
  26. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I’ve known Alex for 15 years and totally respect his opinions and intelligence. He doesn’t have expertise in a specific narrow field of medical practice like me and my consultant colleagues, but he does have expertise in the generality of medicine and is able to weigh up available evidence as well as any of us. And he does know what he doesn’t know, and who he should ask. I for one trust him. We are almost bound to get further covid cases on the island. The plan has to be to manage this by appropriate testing, tracing, and selective isolation, while
    3 points
  27. Beautiful pictures, JW.
    2 points
  28. The two that went before the bench were in work the next day saying they had been watching the footie in two pubs and some one reported them. No checks or balances by this Government
    2 points
  29. They will do what most civil servants do nod, agree, and then continue to do things the same way as ever.
    2 points
  30. Cheers you smug barrstarrd
    2 points
  31. It was interesting that, during his long interview on the Mannin Line today, Tim Baker was asked about the senior management team he'd inherited. He responded that "some of them will enjoy working with me, more than others." It suggests that he has sussed out some of them, but whether he'll actually be able to change anything will be a different matter.
    2 points
  32. Maybe get the boy Brindley to choose the music for a couple of weeks. I appreciate that would be extreme. Perhaps Stu should have a guard of honour to enter the building tonight.
    2 points
  33. No, but I can generalise. You have to do that when there is so much debate on the meaning of these terms. Only a couple of months ago I watched an hour-long argument between two well known economists, both of them left wing, who couldn't agree on the meaning of the word socialist. What possible hope do you think we have on Manx Forums to reach a consensus?
    2 points
  34. I am in the sticks and the best I get is 11mbps. If it was consistent it would be adequate even with my fully digital home and business office. My issues come from regular drop outs and bandwidth contention at peak times. I do not get a mobile signal either so am hoping that the extra cash allocated to MT for fibre is well spent and soon.
    2 points
  35. In his interview or chat with the nation on Mannin line today Baker said they knew there would be opposition to the Glencrutcheryroadgate but it would settle down after a couple of weeks as people had accepted something similar they had done down South after that time. What a plonker. He reminded me of an excited puppy having his first playtime with the big dogs. However, it is a massive department perhaps it need splitting up, the list of what it is responsible for was read out and it astounded me, too unwieldy by half it is really not surprising that things are not getting the attenti
    2 points
  36. Yes, that's a consequence of a small sample size, and a known factor that you need to take into account. San Marino had 40 odd deaths but is top of that scale by an absolute mile. A single death in a small community skews the stats by a large amount, I'd have thought you of all people would understand that. Also, in your later point about it circulating in a low level, well while I suppose it is possible I'd say it is highly highly unlikely, because this virus doesn't seem to do low level, thats the whole point of everything, it transmits too fast to remain low level. If it was circulatin
    2 points
  37. Like John Wright, I've been on Bens lV V, and Vl. Manx Viking had her moments. The toilets were, as I recall, in tiny cubicles. I'm not huge, but they were challenging. She also had what seemed to be a permanent slight lean to one side, which she still had when we saw her in Norway around 1988. The ships were better when they had silver service restaurants. Going for a decent, relaxed meal seemed to be so civilised, though Ben V had unusual green coloured walls in her restaurant, which didn't help the appetite I suppose I have better memories of some of the trips on the last L
    2 points
  38. It is also laying the ground for a redistribution of wealth, some would believe.
    2 points
  39. And how far does it extend..?
    2 points
  40. What an asinine comment.
    2 points
  41. Jesus this is like East Germany. FFS is its bothering you, report them via the 111 covid Line. Posting on a web forum changes fuck all. Stan, if you want the numbers do you think its best to whine like a baby on a forum, or go and look for the answers yourself? I found the data easily enough.
    2 points
  42. I liked the lounges where it was bench seating all around the hull with a sort of bunk-berth above. Presumably because of the hull shape. The portholes were just above this berth. When there was a bit of a sea the portholes would be submerged when the boat rolled. Magical! It used to annoy my mother no end that the heavy rolling of the hull would lull me to sleep. Until they started being sick of course. Why do people who suffer from mal de mer think they will be better off below decks? What they should be doing is getting out on the decks in the fresh air to enjoy a p
    2 points
  43. Let's hope this improvement in the passenger offering is addressed in the new vessel design! Free onboard wi-fi for the whole voyage would also go a long way to improving the passenger experience...
    2 points
  44. It was my luxury as a student, start and end of each term and a mid term weekend return.
    2 points
  45. Everyones missing the real point. This traffic issue in these areas are totally the responsibility of DOI and the complete clusterf**k they made of the promenade in the first place . From day one they didnt have a clue ,and along with lack of design plans , and this is why we are where we are . How is it suddenly we have big numbers on site but for a year often there wouldnt be double figures for months . The Prom doesnt need to be one way as there is plenty of room for two lanes . As there was all along.. Management at DOI have completly failed in everyway and how Black is still in charge is
    2 points
  46. Not forgetting their breakfast on the way out. Served on a dry plate not swimming in assorted liquids
    2 points
  47. Are you Kayleigh McEnema? That whole pile of text you've just posted is straight out Trumps bum.
    2 points
  48. It certainly wasn't the first four that's for sure... To be honest, any of the old style boats were better than the current vessel. They had a bit of character. The silver service restaurant on board always made the trip a bit special
    2 points
  49. Thanks for that useless fucking input.
    2 points
  50. The Brewery won’t sell without a covenant restricting sale of alcohol. Given it’s location it’s got a good population base. Should be full. Its even got adequate parking. The restaurant space is a bit underwhelming. But could be improved. But please, no more brewery fare. I suspect places like the Strath, Colby Glen are closed because the Brewery is short of competent tenants and managers. They’re having a shuffle.
    2 points
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