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“Councillor Andrew Bentley said that police officers had ’taken over’ the area after losing car parking spaces outside police headquarters. He said: ’We should have made the Department of Home Affairs pay for police parking since there is no room for their vehicles.’” the custody build resulted in a net reduction of 6 spaces. There are plans to make some more bays out the front of HQ too. The cops had been parking on the paddock long before then. It’s generally during daytime, and whenever there is an event the cops and staff disperse onto the streets around the area - which obviou

This seems to me basically an existential question.

It is a burning issue

Well a Google search brings up the text from May 2014: Courtenay Heading, Biomed, Inward Investment Consultant to the Isle of Man Government commented: 'I'm delighted to be working with UMI3...". But strangely the associated press release has gone missing. So clearly this was the DfE or DED as it was then. The Minister then was still Shimmin I think, who always came across as slightly less gormless than Skelly, but was actually just as big a mug. Neither could see a chancer without thinking they were the next big thing. But that's pretty much how this most typical department of the M

Ever since I've lived here which is now 30yrs we have been investing in infrastructure, which to me begs a question ? Why is the place such a xxxxxxx mess ?

Much of the reserves are invested. There was a Covid stock market fall in March April May last year. Since then they’ve recovered to new highs. My pension pot is up 20% year on year. From £10 to £12

Unmatched....

Well the argument has always been that we will have a Prom to be proud of when its finished , yes I know what your thinking !. But remember we had to do it as at anytime those nasty voids would swallow up all our vehicles , oh wait , none found up to now . Oh dear so we will be left with a inferior product which will not be finished before the end off 2022 , taking in whats still to be done and the inevitable snagging and re doing so much. Yes it would seem sadly your right .

PG chose a budget debate programme to make a personal attack on PK. Another example of PG huffing and puffing to score a point like an oul Manx politician from days gone by.

The space is being taken up by the scaffolding.....

It's all well and good saying kick the motor homes off but where can they go? People complain if they parked on a residential street. Just shifting the problem

Whenever someone uses that phrase, I'm always reminded when someone said that about Jeffery Archer on his release from prison and Linda Smith replied: "I'm not that happy with him having the oxygen of oxygen, actually".

I welcome the idea of finally getting capital expenditure under control. But it's essential they get the right people in that team. There's a very real danger they will just import clowns from the DOI and from under other government stones.

Doubt there will be anything major. All hopes will be pinned on the Island benefitting from whatever online sales tax the UK Gov introduces in their upcoming budget.

The details were circulated at 11.30 am after the CM had seconded the proposal. Then the long speeches began. The vote this afternoon was really immaterial. Juan was right in my view. Some MHKs looked so bored / some of them grinning like schoolchildren to each other. Pure pantomime. And this is Tynwald, the highest court in the land.

I mean why is Josem even there? He's just a random guy off the street surely?

We may have been in a better position if they hadn't started at all !

Old River Road by the Swimming Pool in Ramsey, along with Bay View and outside the Ambulance Station are fine places to dump your camper van for the winter.

Agreed, who's to say cabinet office are the Knights in shining armour

And not before time, somebody needed to get a grip of Longworth. They can start getting some life and mileage out of the existing fleet. Buses being moved on because they've got a reported 40k on the clock is laughable. I'm told there's Citaros mothballed in a hangar at Jurby too but I can't confirm it. ETA: Phil Gawne on MR bleating that there's no money for heritage, including repairs to the currently non-functioning Laxey Wheel. Given the money that PG squandered during his tenures, I find the hypocrisy breathtaking. Peel some tarmac up off The Sloc and sell it Phil.

They can't look after the infrastructure we already have, so there should be a complete moratorium on CAPEX until after the next election.

He's always been a torchbearer

Seems a bit of a waste of space to kick off all the trucks, caravans and motorhomes and indeed even the police. Seems that there is no joined up thinking here. I do agree that people abuse this are there are some real wrecks down there (not just the police parking area) Why not introduce a paid permit system (that excludes event periods) and insist that all vehicles are roadworthy (including no flat tyres) and regularly driven (say 30 day max continuous stay) instead of just kicking everyone off to litter the streets. Treat it like a paid storage area. I am sure people would pay £25

They'll make it a toll road. Lord knows it's taking it's toll on motorists already

Hahaha what an absolute tosser.

8 weeks is a bit ambitious..... The DOI's 8 years is achievable though...

Although I agree with your post generally I have to claim my £5 for you being Mr Auldyn, or more likely Minister Tim Baker MHK.

It was Gawne, chiding Peter Karran. Peter Karran for all his years in House of Keys was only part of the Government (capital 'G', as in Council of Ministers) as Education MInister for a few months (good for highest salary pension btw) so was never really on the inside. Not like Gawne though, who as a Minister and darling of the Tynwald big boys because they had managed to (easily) bring him on message, brought in lots of grant money for landowners and was heard berating the public for criticizing the forthcoming Promenade scheme in a moment when the Tynwald microphones were left on durin

And yet no women. Not even a random one off the street.

It was Harmer around the start of the contract. He stated there would be 60 or so working on the prom at any one time ..

Well yes. It's an Audit and Accounting point in terms of the numbers position. Which they've all been briefed on. Future plans etc is the remit of Treasury. That's the job. It would be better to focus on how shit some departments are.

Phil Gawne @PhilGawne · 16m Replying to @IOMGovernment Congratulations @IOMGovernment and @HowardQuayleMHK on a generally great job but please reverse this apparent new policy of significantly underfunding our remarkable world leading economically important cultural and heritage assets. Above from Phil Gawne, I'd like to know what is world leading about some horse trams being dragged around a bomb site ? which is about the best you can say about our world leading promenade. Whilst we have people homeless and food banks getting great

So there is little point in having a vote at all then, it may as well be passed straight through?

Mr. Speaker is the lone "against" vote in the Budget vote, claiming that it's, "Anti-democratic" with not enough time being given to scrutiny and debate. He may have a point...?

It's the investment that is causing the xxxxx mess

I don't think one can 'raise' a house to the ground, unless it's on Tracy Island or something....

What about big Van's then. Are they ok

Another new case detected, inbound traveller now in isolation. Local cases currently 4 (iomtoday).

It was embarrassing just listening to Gawne at lunchtime. He's still got a headful of wool. First time he got to speak he was off on one about climate change...

Just listening to Mossy chairing the Budget debate; he should host the BBC's Just A Minute quiz on Radio 4. He clearly models himself on the previous host, the late Nicholas Parsons.

We keep getting told today that the reserves have recovered and even improved despite the hundreds of millions spent to fight Covid and the economy being virtually shut down for most of last year. How so ? Nobody seems to be asking Alf and the budget cheerleaders to explain this. Isn't there some sleight of hand here by the magicians in Treasury ?

So Tynwald only moved the capital team out of Treasury 3-4 years ago and now the Borg is moving it to cabinet office (where everything goes to have staffing money spent on it). 🤣

The stuff in that ‘report’ is reminiscent of the sort of things David Icke would come up with.

Good to see that he's resisted tax increases at this time, I'd bet that there were calls for them though. Also long overdue is the Capital oversight and scrutiny, though there's the £6M Capital contingency fund for unexpected work, Depts'll be fighting over that...that'll go straight into the Promenade. Some people are going to be very unhappy that their unlimited money tap is going to be turned off a bit. Let's just hope that it doesn't lead to a lot of unfinished projects lying around out of petulance.

Yes all major capex projects coming into new team in cabinet office , treasury have been pissed off for a while over the constant over spends by DOI and others

Interesting, he has been listening to this forum. No more pissing money on vanity projects. Black, Longworth etc are having the toys taken away from them. I hope that was the message, that's my interpretation anyway.

I would have thought that someone who just a few hours ago was a recent arrival struggling to grasp the man's political system wouldn't have the in depth knowledge to identify a forum poster as a lowly commissioner....

Most of us just don't like dickheads.