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  1. Tonight’s briefing will be as follows:- 1. I hope everyone had a nice weekend, I enjoyed visiting my parents and sitting in a deck chair 2. David for stats 3. dr ewart talks about a graph 4. Something about baby steps and remaining vigilent 5. education minister will be back on Thursday to give us an update on schools 6. respect those working in garden centres 7. council of ministers meeting on Thursday 8. Questions from a journalist...looks for clarification on something un important....something about guernsey air bridge Something about
    16 points
  2. They’re looking for CoMin sense, not common sense
    14 points
  3. which we should have been doing right from the fucking start
    12 points
  4. It's called taking the piss. They've had month's to assemble a crack team of experts. The rest of the UK and the Crown Dependants are opening up. We're putting together a group to talk about it - ffs man. ... and you're 'The Voice of Reason'.
    9 points
  5. Well only in so far as all cases contracted by Steam Packet staff seem to have been classified as 'travel-related'. Certainly the index case was. Which in a sense they are, but not in the way that those words are normally used - ie returning travellers. By the same logic all cases on the Island are travel-related. Just as they are China-related or bat-related. Government communications have used the phrase as a way of avoiding responsibility. Now unless you're going to ban all travel to the Island, passenger and freight, there is always going to be some risk from and to transpor
    9 points
  6. Travelling for a pussy is always worth it, ask jet ski man
    9 points
  7. David mitchell did a bit of a run down on flag shaggers, said keeping a flag indoors where it can't catch the wind and do the very thing it's designed for is akin to putting a bus stop in your front room.
    8 points
  8. Everybody's against waste and wants efficiency, at least in principle. Too often it's flag-shagging namesake seems to call for cuts in public services. Given Josem's history advocating for Brexit, the Alliance's opaque funding and the choice of an organisation name that in the UK is associated with the right of the Tory Party - you can understand people being concerned about this organisations motives.
    7 points
  9. One requirement, one only. Transparency. Publish the data upon which decisions are based in as near real time as possible. Then there can be meaningful debate, and decision making can be held to account
    7 points
  10. Dear god, can you really compare the two. Er, on second thoughts, don't answer that... Hitchens once described Icke's outpourings and conspiracy theories in general as, "the exhaust fumes of democracy." After describing MF as a, "cesspit" it's you who needs to think about your own credibility...
    6 points
  11. Yes, but how many of those costs are costs that are being incurred anyway or are fixed costs regardless of throughput? Apart from the consumables, you would expect the cost per test to drop with higher throughput.
    6 points
  12. It all comes back to honesty, transparency and openness. Or more the lack of it. We have an ageing population. The government hadn’t been renewing its estate adequately or in time. They really did have to close Glenside and Albert Terrace ( or at least stop accepting new residents ). There weren’t enough private developments coming on line. They want to outsource to private operators because long term it’s cheaper because they lose the employment add on costs of pensions. The decision probably was justified. But presentation and explanation is abysmal. Just like Covid, Liverpool landing s
    5 points
  13. But there are actually two separate questions being conflated here. The first is about how much should be charged for 'private' tests and indeed whether a charge should be made at all. Normally charging for tests for communicable disease, such as Covid, is seen as a very bad idea because you want to catch as many cases as possible before it spreads. That's why there don't seem to many places charging for them - at least not directly. But if you are going to charge for such tests in some circumstances, then the amount charged is always going to be arbitrary and based more on what the market
    5 points
  14. The interesting thing about this is that, as I pointed out earlier, it was an official Keys Question from Barber and they seem to have gone to some effort not to make it an official answer.
    5 points
  15. he should extract his head first.
    5 points
  16. How many times do we hear promises about this, round election times? Not only Tynwald but also LAs? And when the election dust has settled it all goes quiet. IF the appointment of the new Auditor General post proves to be successful and not just political window dressing, that will be be the biggest move forward in years.
    5 points
  17. IMO, dropping the test, test, test mantra has been a major failing and a huge mistake. It never made any sense to charge for testing or make it so difficult to obtain a test in the first place. I can't think of a single other communicable disease where testing would incur a charge. It's bonkers.
    5 points
  18. Not for the appraisal of josem surely?
    5 points
  19. That’s because it’s probably been shredded.
    5 points
  20. And yet David claims it costs government more and they run each one at a loss. But can’t/won’t produce the fag packet workings
    5 points
  21. No doubt all the historical commerciality of this deal will be commercially confidential, it would however be interesting to see at what point the deal changed and why. Peel Ports have a track record of building things with other peoples money and if ever there was an organisation prime for being taken for a ride well it is IOMG. The Steam Packet acquisition I have always thought was too costly, even though I am told a good move. However at the eye watering costs, top loaded at the moment, it will be some time before we reach the sunlit uplands!
    5 points
  22. 100% of the Manx public suffer memory problems when it comes to COVID. None of us remember what it feels like to live on an island where everyone shows compassion for peoples individual circumstances, where common sense is applied based on a properly evaluated risk profile, or where politicians actually try and do the best for all of us rather than basque in the perceived limelight of their new found celebrity status, COVID free, queens honours list public persona. I have a strong feeling this will bite them on the arse massively in the next 8 weeks. I didn’t agree with the rest
    5 points
  23. For a while the IOMG pretended that it was leading the world in how to effectively manage Covid. No more! They left the proverbial back door, the SPC, well and truly open and unsupervised. Consequently, Covid slipped silently past their defences, back into our lives and sent us back into lockdown.
    4 points
  24. Why do in 1 minute what can be strung out, in fine Manx tradition, to last indefinitely? Gladys, are you not au fait with the DOI's 'Manual of How to Turn a Pot-Hole Repair into a Multi-Million Pound Gold-Plated Engineering Wonder-of-the-World with No End Date Specified and Limitless Budget Project'.
    4 points
  25. Maybe that's what Howard's saying to Mrs Barber just now....😂 £53,108,000 is a very specific number though, one might wonder how it was arrived at by a typo? Maybe it was erroneously transposed from another Govt project, but which one? Unless it's a projection for the Prom? The alternative of course is that it's kosher and Barber (and Moorhouse) have (inadvertently?) let the cat out of the bag by revealing and publishing it to the public?
    4 points
  26. Ask him, he's all about openness and transparency. But do it gently, he's extremely sensitive.
    4 points
  27. Covid got out not from travel per se, but because the rules around travel/quarantine/isolation etc were either wrong, or weren’t followed correctly.
    4 points
  28. Well, now is the time to be turning the screws, before this fiasco has a chance to be covered up!
    4 points
  29. TBH, John, one would have hoped for that all along from Comin.
    4 points
  30. Doesn't the word, 'emergency' give an indication of, 'urgency'? Aren't we now, hopefully at the end of lockdown and with the acceleration of vaccinations, some way away from the emergency stage? Why are we doing this a year after when we really needed it?
    4 points
  31. I don't understand how reducing the isolation period alone does anything useful seeing as the Kent variant is thought to have a longer incubation period. If you have isolation, surely it should be for as long as the likely incubation period? Otherwise you introduce pre-travel testing, on entry, then again after 7 days.
    4 points
  32. The worrying thing is that our government thinks that destroying evidence is acceptable, we should just accept their word without question. Letters to Ministers, now taped conversations. There are other previous cases of this kind of thing when it doesn't suit them for a contrary piece of evidence to mysteriously disappear!
    4 points
  33. I thought the real headline in today's briefing was the 400 mathematically inept people who've pulled out of getting vaccinated.
    3 points
  34. Ah, the missionary position...
    3 points
  35. Quite frankly, today could have been just one of the threesome saying these are the figures, they're very encouraging and we hope to have positive news after Thursday and will take questions then. Done in 1 minute.
    3 points
  36. It’s sad that we all knew this would be a briefing of nothing...you have to wonder what was the actual point.... I have to laugh about the schools I got sight of the ballakermeen time table for kids going in on 2 days it is literally performing arts art drama it sports Expressive arts you know the important subjects
    3 points
  37. 3 points
  38. The typo story (38,000,000 to 53,108 000) reminds me of the old joke about how it's easy to mix words up .... meant to say " I love you darling" but it came out as "you've ruined my life you bitch" About as plausible.
    3 points
  39. I'm gonna win it with: Hi-di-Hi The lady in question Thank you Chief Minister No - I have nothing to add. You have explained that beautifully. (and hasn't Molly got a lovely smile again today?)
    3 points
  40. I have a lot of time and respect for the bloke, but I really do wish he'd stop talking about things that he's not qualified so to do. If he does insist, he at least needs to qualify it with 'it is my understanding, but would need to be confirmed by a clinician..' The pseudo doctor trait has become more apparent recently.
    3 points
  41. I'm plumping for £60 million anyway, to be on the safe side.
    3 points
  42. Unnecessarily cynical of you, lost through a technical difficulty.
    3 points
  43. Cats are very useful because you can put cat videos on the internet and people laugh at them and that.
    3 points
  44. That's what the UK government have been asking in Liverpool
    3 points
  45. Serious question , what sort of a contract do Government sign, that allows the costs to rise at unheard of rates. I have seen contracts where the price is subject to a defined variation within specified limits and for laid out reasons, surely we don't just sign something that doesn't define any costs or reasons why, do we ?.
    3 points
  46. Indeed - self righteous moralising appears to be in vogue.
    3 points
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