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  1. But their spelling is ok.
    15 points
  2. There were people arrested, harassed and treated poorly apart from the toilet purges. The toilets may have ben the subject of one or two complaints from the public, but the bible carrying CC ( and officers who wanted to curry favour and attended his daily prayer meetings ) set up mass observation activities, over months, hidden in ceilings. Then arrested dozens over a weekend. No duty advocates in those days. Encouraged most of the detained persons to sign statements admitting ( the CCTV was B&W and indistinct - no one one who contested was found guilty ), then released a list of names, addresses, charges, to the press in advance of the court defendants had been summonsed to. Most weren’t gay, just men who occasionally had sex with men. No Grindr in those days. Those people woke up on Tuesday morning to find their names plastered over the Examiner ( or it may have been the Weekly Times ). That’s how their families found out, their employers, their kids, friends. Several lost jobs, others lost their families, and one, who had just gained custody of his daughter, was told the Police were reporting him to Social Services and removing his child to the ex-wife’s and telling her - and that he’d not get access. He went out and attached a hose to his exhaust, and died. Thats when I started to campaign for two things. 1. The Duty Advocate scheme - most of those detained would never have been charged or gone to court if they’d been advised “no comment”. The CCTV was really so poor. 2. To set up and help run the LGBT Switchboard advice and Counselling service. It ran for 21 years. My personal view is that the CC, having been Anderton’s deputy in Manchester, before coming here, was politicking against the law change debate. He had the same philosophy. Remember, Anderson said, in 1986, that homosexuals, drug addicts and prostitutes who had HIV/AIDS were “ swirling in a human cesspit of their own making”. Such was the attitude of the police against minority and marginalised groups in 1986. It was deliberate. It was against the background of HIV, the tombstone campaign, Maggie, s.28, signs in pub windows on Victoria St saying “Health Warning - this is not a gay bar. Queers not welcome” And I don’t think the way the police dealt with the threats against Alan Shea was particularly effective. More that he deserved abuse, graffiti, excrement in envelopes through his door and they couldn’t do anything. If you get the impression I’m angry when I recall all this, you’re spot on. If you think I want a police apology, spot on.
    10 points
  3. I find it difficult to understand the " we are not as bad as, or we are better than ... who are dreadful" mentality. We can and should be better, we waste so much resource, and so much talent on our doorstep, whilst relying on people who time and again have proven they are not up to the job, whilst revelling in the fact they will never be held to account. This is not about boat in the morning or who is a comeover, stay over, or whatever, this is about the Isle of Man !
    8 points
  4. So, how can you recoup something that isn't measurable? Semantics, possibly, but if anyone thinks the shiny new prom is going to result in an increase in revenue to anyone is deluded. The best to be hoped for is that the businesses that have been affected by the works can recover. It is refurbishing an existing road, not a new road connecting two areas that hitherto had poor road connection.
    6 points
  5. Yesterday's festival was a triumph. The organisation was superb, the festival attendees had loads of fun. Good food, good bands, good craic and no trouble. Hats off to everyone who took part in one way or another. It might not have been in your front room this time John, but your legacy will carry on.
    6 points
  6. Growing up. Most of the people who go through the criminal justice system at a younger age stop offending when they get a job, marry, have kids. Its really difficult to do direct comparisons. Fines have the lowest reoffending rates. But that’s because fines, like all other sentences, are targeted by seriousness of offence, previous, ability to pay. Most people fined are first offenders, are never going to offend again, whatever the sentence. My view, after, 40+ years of appearing in courts, is that better support intervention by school and social services, before the first offence gets to court would be even better. And much improved mental health support. But options that keep offenders out of court and unconvicted, but which educate and deliver restorative justice, are also worthwhile. Drug and Alcohol referral schemes, speeding and other motoring referral schemes.
    6 points
  7. Name is irrelevant. It was institutional. Apology now needs to come from the institution through its current leader. He’s an old man. He’s had his own tragedies.
    5 points
  8. Try being a teacher these days though - tough gig. All you need is one or two disruptive kids and the whole class can, and often does, go to hell in a handcart. No real power or even facilities to deal with it - and the disruptive kids know it. Like they say, it is easier to negotiate with terrorists than some kids. Worse still are some of the parents who don't even care, which is a major problem not to be underestimated. All damaging to teachers' mental health and the education of the bulk of kids. An innovative replacement punishment system is well overdue to protect the wellbeing of the bulk of teachers and kids that are getting on with it. Maybe this could be in the form of 3 strikes and you have to go to a separate, centre of island school, run by the Demon Headmaster where the emphasis is on exercise, gardening and a more practical education syllabus...with the option of getting back to your old school only once you have demonstrated you have realised the consequences and upped your game. There is little point in fining some of the scummy parents we have on this island as most of the monies would be unrecoverable for a wide variety of reasons.
    5 points
  9. Actually he said he'd take "legal advise", which doesn't even make sense.
    4 points
  10. I had in my head it was one of the satire pages but having done a bit of searching it was actually Nick Crowe's facebook So.... 1. still might be satire tbf 2. make your own judgements as to the calibre of the source material
    4 points
  11. What a lot of negative Nancys on here. Bitter bile filled fucktards. If the Chinese knew they could extract bile so easily they'd let all those bears out of the cages. The Island's response to COVID has been far better than a lot of jurisdictions. All those bitter Manx crabs on here thinking they could do better - there's an election imminent get your name down.
    4 points
  12. I’m not going to waste hours on writing a future strategy for the Island, am I? That is simply the vision. Folk getting paid for it should be doing the grind.
    4 points
  13. I wish I could find one.
    4 points
  14. But where is the traffic to go? Between the lines, or following them? The crossing outside of Admiral House - is that a pedestrian crossing or not? Were these designed approved by a traffic management consultant or some GCSE installation art student? At least if it was Banksy there would be some acerbic wit in there. Does anyone in DOI actually understand that if it is not clear how to use a road, the likely consequences are serious, if not grave? This is not designing a patio FFS.
    4 points
  15. If it isn't true it could make nick crowe look like an idiot
    3 points
  16. Indeed. ‘Proud Manxman’ ‘Mogrey Mie’ and flying the Three Legs and the Tynwald flag are instantly ushered hurriedly off stage as soon as a foreign jurisdiction offers some tinsel. One might even level an accusation of hypocrisy.
    3 points
  17. I've said this before and i'll say it again. It never ceases to amaze me how much this 'proud and independent' Island fawns over medals and badges dished out by UK royalty. I bet the list of Manxies refusing a badge makes for short reading.
    3 points
  18. Why. It’s only going to be open to traffic going north on the prom filtering to the left. Traffic is still going to be using the walkway until the carriageways are linked up. That’s expected for 15/7. The roadways north or south aren’t actually connected to the ellipsabout
    3 points
  19. I would employ the best person for the job. Not to fill a quota that says we don't have enough x y or z categories of people.
    3 points
  20. @Mysteron I've thought of another example of the then attitude of the police, and, in this case, children’s services. Police became aware of a group of men who were hanging around the Lord Street bus station loos and picking up young boys, taking them to nearby homes. Sexual favours remunerated by gifts ensued. Bear in mind there was no age of consent in those days. Man on man sexual contact was illegal. One fine day the Islands finest pitch up at the school of one of the boys. Full jam butty and uniforms. Lifted 15 year old from class in front of other students, staff. Took him to Police HQ. Provided a social worker as an appropriate adult. Social worker persuaded the lad to tell all. He’d feel better to get it off his chest, allegedly. Before days of duty advocate. He sang. Several, much older, men arrested, charged, went to prison. Not so good for the boy either, tho. He’d disclosed he had participated in sexual activity. It wasn’t dealt with as a safeguarding matter, or abuse. No, he got charged, went to court, was convicted, sentenced. Still has to be declared for certain job applications. Not one of the offences for which he could apply for a Turing pardon. Its still, technically, illegal, as he was under 16 and the age of consent is now 16. But that’s a prosecution that was hurtful, damaging, unnecessary. A life that continues to be blighted. Deserves a full on apology and removal of the conviction.
    3 points
  21. I got the cane a couple of times at Park Road in the 90s, issued by Mr King. Unjustly both times in my view, and may well have added to my dislike of authority.
    3 points
  22. No need - just fix what exists. Leaner, more efficient, more focused, a sense of perspective. See below for some starters
    3 points
  23. You could almost get an Athol Street lawyer at that rate, for pretty much the same thing.
    3 points
  24. The only academic research I’m aware of relating to the use of Judicial Corporal Punishment ( Birching ) in the Isle of Man, and it’s total ineffectiveness. 1811726117_JudicialCorporalPunishmentJWMAThesis1978(2).pdf
    3 points
  25. None of the workmen would know where to put it......
    3 points
  26. A cock and balls may be more appropriate.
    3 points
  27. Indeed, and that is the top and bottom of it. Seeing the comments on FB you would think that HQ single handedly conquered the virus and saved us all from certain death. Whereas .......
    2 points
  28. 'Close the drawbridge' hardly takes the mental acuity of a global leader. Opening that drawbridge is the kicker, and, we've gotten that wrong before.
    2 points
  29. I am shocked! I just looked at the gov.im website and I admit this is a rare occasion that I am wrong! It is only key workers. However, when the announcement was made on the radio, they did say that people with work contracts could now come over, proved they test and isolate.
    2 points
  30. So Nick Crowe's post on his Facebook page is the only source for this whole thread...?
    2 points
  31. Not since I was in Peru
    2 points
  32. Just get your facts right though. Thalidomide was a drug and not a vaccine. Totally different. Very poor comparison.
    2 points
  33. Who knows what might have been achieved, HQ had got a grip and closed the borders a couple of weeks before he did? Lots.
    2 points
  34. There are at present no recognised legal road markings there. So either it’s not finished, in which case it shouldn’t be open, or as the copper we spoke to yesterday said, you’d better make damn sure you’ve got a dash-cam so you can prove what went wrong when it does.
    2 points
  35. They would at Quarterbridge. The Manx roads are full of vegetables that can't drive properly.
    2 points
  36. Why not just take the little brat home and cane the parents?
    2 points
  37. Absolute BS. I should know I am heavily involved in recruitment. Some companies choose to encourage applications from minority groups but certainly don't go anywhere near setting quotas.
    2 points
  38. But why do it at all? It's not better, it's not clever, it's just..................ah shit, words fail me!
    2 points
  39. So it's in your head then? The only place in the UK that has a "quota" as far as I am aware is Northern Ireland and that is based on religion. If you are choosing to impose your own quota well that's your problem. I do agree that you should hire the best person for the job regardless of age, sex, religion etc.
    2 points
  40. At many festivals I’ve been to they have harder plastic glasses. You pay £1 deposit for the first one, then swap it for a clean one when you buy your next one. You can redeem the £1 before leaving but because they’re branded you might take them home as a cheap souvenir. By adding a monetary value they’re not seen as disposable.
    2 points
  41. If you have genuine need to bring people over to do jobs, you can get them over. You say you cannot easily do business trips, but it is not that difficult and is doable. You cannot bring friends here, but nothing stopping you going and seeing them. A month ago you were calling for the exact situation we have now. When we do finally remove restrictions from the borders, you will still find something to moan about!
    2 points
  42. Because we are the ones that are out of line with the rest of the civilised world. Not them
    2 points
  43. it also doesn't make sense in my head to compare capital investment in infrastructure with ongoing costs through benefits even with the overspends and wasted money in the capital projects it's not an obvious move to just plough it into ongoing benefits
    2 points
  44. What restrictions? You are free to travel to and from the uk, and you have. Your family can travel across to see you. The only thing still in place is a ban on tourism. That will be lifted when the time is right. However, it will not be before schools out for summmer, even if they end the term early.
    2 points
  45. UK recently. Masks where compulsory but no where else. Didn’t use hand sanitiser once. Must have hugged/shaken hands with over 50 people (including some from Bolton!!!!!) was in loads of houses with loads of groups. Often more than are “permitted” Four of us, so multiply risk by 4. All fine
    2 points
  46. Only if someone puts 20p in the DeLorean
    2 points
  47. I'm not sure finishing a job on budget or time is anything to shout about? Finishing early and under budget perhaps.
    2 points
  48. I think there are many suitable candidates but they are deterred from being candidates by the situation in Tynwald. The island may have the oldest continuous parliament in the world but that does not make it the most effective.
    2 points
  49. Surely your not suggesting that they have written it to suit her qualifications are you. They would never do that !
    2 points
  50. Easy really. Think about how the prom has been handled , multiple other cock ups. But get this , a population of about 80k thinks it is actually a country and installs a full governmental and expensive overseeing ‘parliament’ and pays them all a fortune including our CS , beggars belief really.
    2 points
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