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  1. 25 points
    My dad was unfortunately one of the residents who passed away at Abbotswood. It's very easy, after the fact, to focus on apportioning blame, to advise (from afar) on what ‘should have been’ – and assume that many of the people and organizations involved are incompetent. From our family’s perspective, in the early stages of the crisis, the staff (and management) at the time tried really hard to protect the residents – stopping all visits, sleeping on-site in two shifts to minimize passage in and out of the building and so on. In hindsight, this wasn’t enough to prevent the tragedy – but the world was only just coming to terms with the sheer scale of the issue and understanding what steps and measures would be required. It is much easier to look back and criticise than to look forward and predict how things would unfold. The staff and management are clearly devastated with what has happened – and I believe that much of the criticism is undeserved. The care sector worldwide is struggling to manage the issue – and if Abbotswood ends up being the limit of the care home tragedy on the Island, it will have been a narrow escape for the others. I hope that this is the case. Also, the nature of the residents conditions and behaviour – and I include my dad in this - doesn’t make it easy. Many simply don’t understand what is going on, are difficult or impossible to persuade to follow advise or instructions – and are unpredictable and sometimes unruly. Given how difficult and disturbing this in the best of times, I don’t underestimate how much more difficult it must be in a crisis. In the case of our family at least, we don’t blame the management, staff or the government for dad’s passing. Their response wasn’t perfect – but it’s a global tragedy and fate pays a part too. Micky
  2. 8 points
    It will no doubt be in the local news as soon as the local "journalists" are notified through their dedicated newfeeds - i.e. have read your post.
  3. 8 points
    But the sad thing is that that think they are being dignified. You and I and practically everyone else see Quayle badly reciting badly-written PR guff followed by touchy and confusing replies. He sees it as Howard Quayle World Statesman and there are enough people employed to fuel his delusions that they will continue. The rest of us may be cringing, but they can go on like this forever. But the real problem isn't that they are pompous and self-important where they should be dignified - it's that they think being 'dignified' is the beginning and end of the job. There's no strategy, no grasp of what the options are and no real attempt to explains things to the public. All you need to do is sound 'presidential' and the minions will do all that for you. None of which that the press conferences should be ignored or stopped, irritating though they may be. The fact that even the minimal inquisitiveness of the Manx media seems to offend them - hence the two questions rule and now these ridiculous 'Pools', as if the world's press were all clamouring to get in - should tell us that being ignored is exactly what they want.
  4. 8 points
    I fully expect to get potted from my gov job because of this (and to be honest i don't really mind might be the kick up the arse i need), but then i am one of the bottom rung people who do all the work (and never ever earned the average £45 grand a year this forum thinks we get paid) so then the general population of the island will be left with all the middle managers on big salaries who know and do fuck all.
  5. 7 points
    There are some really good people across the civil service. Grafters, and they care. The problem as I see it is there are a lot of ‘non jobs’ at a management level that have been created for unclear purposes. Rather than people on good money sucking up the responsibility , it just seems to ge diluted down to a level where there isn’t actually enough authority to get things done. It’s not always been like that. We seem to have managed our way into a corner.
  6. 7 points
    It's a complex issue. There are no short cuts; they have to look after number one, anything else won't wash; although it's a bit dry, they have to get to the root of the issue and it has to be cut and dried.
  7. 7 points
    A few sensible idealists have been elected individually to Tynwald over the years, occasionally as MLCs, but all either turn into "Stepford MHKs" or effectively become isolated. Until a sensible political party gains a majority here...its candidates all agreed on at least 5 major policies...nothing will or can change. That is the revolution that is required here.
  8. 7 points
    What is this obsession with whether Del is standing in the next election? All I want to see is 24 good men and women elected, who can stop pissing around in the weeds, stand up to the Civil Service and actually give this fine Island some direction. I’m not bothered who it is, and the decision point I’d even consider it is a long way off! and Scotty is right - I’m not a politician. I don’t play games. I’m straightforward and to the point, and will say it as I see it. It’s a big reason that my Police career plateau’d at Inspector (I did 12 years in that rank). I can’t subscribe to the games that have to be played, the need to keep your mouth shut and the pressure that puts on your own moral code. Whoever puts themselves forward in 2021 must wake up to The enormity of the task ahead. There can be no more kicking cans down the road, and ignoring the elephants in the room. In terms of Ramsey, I hope Lawrie and Alex get back in. They’ve had good first terms, and I can’t see anyone standing against them having a look in. Elsewhere, parochialism is likely to keep the pools of candidates shallow, unless we see a Manx Spring and a massive increase in people willing to stand - as we have seen with MLC elections. I remain interested in what is going on, and enjoy the debate, which is why I invest too much time on here and Twitter. I’ll keep an open mind.
  9. 7 points
    Or the awkward ones who will actually speak up when something is wrong. If that is true, how on earth are private investigators the right people to find out what happened? This is a matter which requires independent medical investigation to find out what happened. These people died from a virus, they haven't run off with somebody's wife. If the DHSC really cared about this there would already been a investigation and the interim results announced so other nursing homes could benefit.
  10. 7 points
  11. 6 points
    Did I read this individuals blog right today in relation to the Chris Thomas saga? “On the flip side Chris can be over confident and a little too sure of himself at times ...” The ultimate lack of thorough self analysis before posting I’d suggest.
  12. 6 points
    The real worry is that we are continuing to keep testing to the bare minimum. As far as I can tell they are still limiting it to hospital admissions (who have probably been self-isolating anyway, because if you're going into hospital you are likely to have been already ill for a time) and a (literal) handful of cases referred by 111 - the drop in which may be due to people with the symptoms being diagnosed as having hay fever. There may have been a few extra ones done for medical staff and one-offs testing all the residents of a nursing home (though the testing for Abbotswood was done weeks after it should have been), but there has been no opportunity taken use the extra capacity to expand testing into groups that might be seen as high risk in one way or another - never mind the general population. The problem is that it's perfectly possible for COVID-19 to spread again in the general population with those affected showing no or minimal symptoms - as is often the case with the young who are those who have the highest number of social interactions. And if no testing is picking that up, then it will spread unchecked, except by people deciding to follow the confusing and contradictory instructions issued by governments, which they then undermine by their own behaviour. The truth is that the Manx government has never really had a grip on this crisis. Their usual response of following whatever the UK government decides but later, fails when the UK is led so poorly and mainly with an eye on what pleases newspaper proprietors rather than what works. What good decisions they have made came from pressure from public opinion or professionals and because Quayle's infection meant he wasn't there to stop things happening. They are now reverting to their usual method of pretending problems aren't there in the hope they will go away.
  13. 6 points
    New Zealand reacted fast and hard, and with a population of just under 5 million, they've only had 21 deaths. No-one is saying that they were "shut down everything loonies".
  14. 6 points
    Trying to get back on track. Local authorities. My argument is that there is too much micro-parochialism which is also exacerbated by the building of fiefdoms. This is an unnecessary layer of Government in a small population which needs to be agile and progressive to survive into the future.
  15. 6 points
    Can easily happen though - Ryan Air operate from a lot of airports usually miles away from your actual destination.
  16. 5 points
    There appears to be some sort of "moral" angle here right? The reality is cases like this are a very very small percentage. Unfortunately people have addictions. There are far more people addicted to food which is killing many more every day. This story is tragic. But it happens. As it does with drugs, ale, smoking, food etc. I don't get your point about "making anything of value". What would you suggest? The egaming industry is critical here. Like it or not.
  17. 5 points
    It's an incredibly narrow and naive viewpoint on the impact of this virus on people. The impact on the economy will affect just about everyone, but I suppose civil servant bashing is cheap and easy journalism.
  18. 5 points
    The most hysterical people are the ones kicking off about the restrictions, demanding we go back to 'normal' and whining about teachers. Probably English. All the sensible ones are just taking it easy, in the knowledge that we'll get there when we're ready. Traa dy lioarr
  19. 5 points
    There's no accounting for Southerners Rhumsaa. Shandy Drinkers the lot of them (well apart from Teapot who apparently will drink anything) I've been quite impressed by Lawrie Hooper. He has a very reasoned and logical approach in parliament and always sounds like he's done his homework. If he would distance himself from LibVan I might even vote for him.
  20. 5 points
    So you now advocating letting people make their own choices having previously stated that Covid 19 was a huge risk to the IoM and that the IoM Government did not view it seriously enough. If the public are trusted to make their own choices then the logical position is that Govt does not need to get involved. It is also seems odd that you are happy to let people make their own decisions on a matter that you describe as a huge risk to the IoM. It seems you want to have your cake and eat it so that later date you can argue that you suggested option 1 whilst ignoring the fact you also argued for option 2. Tales I win, heads you lose.
  21. 5 points
    The Curran Report will be cuddling up on a dusty shelf with the Lisvane Report, the Steam Packet Report, the Manx Gas Report and God alone knows how many other expensively obtained Reports that are too politically inconvenient or distasteful to be implemented or released.
  22. 5 points
    I take it you're new here. (Come on, someone had to say it).
  23. 5 points
    That red strip, on Loch Promenade is nothing to do with the tramlines. It just signifies the future centre of the roadway. I know its a bit odd that they've used the same colour as they used for the tramlines at the opposite end, but that's how it is. On Loch Prom, the tramlines are/were, going to be on the seaward side, tight to the outside wall of the gardens. So, what we'll end up with, is a much narrower road, reduced parking, and a long, pointless strip of grass, from the Sefton, to the Sea Terminal. I'm not a great fan of the trams, but this all about getting incompetent civil servants off the hook by creating a fog around the plans, specification and the finances, so they don't go over budget, and having to explain themselves. This has Black and Longworth's paw prints, all over it.
  24. 5 points
    And the back tracking commences. Alf now saying that it was always intended to substitute another bank holiday later in the year. Probably 28/8 which would make a 4 day late. Summer bank holiday weekend. Begs two questions. Why not say so. Why not put that in the order cancelling 12/6 And creating 28/6? Poor communication.
  25. 5 points
    The Commissioners can't really win on this one. Put the bunting up and they get denounced for wasting money; don't put it up and they get denounced for not toeing the patriotic line. Possibly by some of the same people. Meanwhile the British government has indeed been celebrating VE Day, by watching with indifference as the last survivors of those who actually accomplished the victory are killed off in their thousands in care homes and elsewhere because of decisions that government made.
  26. 4 points
    Don’t use the name Howard Quayle and the phrase ‘push things through the back door’ in the same sentence. I now feel queasy.
  27. 4 points
    Complete overkill was the Comis Colditz set-up, this seems a sensible alternative that should have been done from the start for anyone coming from the UK or further afield[1], as many other countries did for returning residents. Like it or not, a small minority of people will not self-isolate properly and the only way to check that they are is to do these 'doorstep' checks for the 14 days they are supposed to self-isolate. It's still a lot less onerous than being stuck in a hotel room. But these are also people who may be hit by a serious illness and the checks do also have the purpose of making sure that people are OK and seeing if they need any extra help - which the police can presumably refer them to. If they get no answer, it may well be that the person is out illegally, but they could also be too ill to respond and you would hope the police would intervene. As for 'modern technology', are you suggesting that the solution for a temporary problem that can be dealt with using an existing (and currently not very busy) human resource, should be something that involves lots of new equipment, extra staff and unreliable technology? Are you sure you don't work for the DoI? [1] These people weren't just inconvenienced and seriously out of pocket because of the Comis fiasco, but also by being stuck in the UK or further afield for weeks while the Government dithered about what to do until finally deciding to do something that was very expensive for the taxpayers and then abandoned as soon as they could.
  28. 4 points
    Maybe he realised just how many controversial planning applications were lined up to go through on the nod by people taking advantage of the state of incompetency
  29. 4 points
    We know that the prevailing approach to road safety caused a lot of Collisions and seriously injured or killed a significant number of people. the current approach has reduced collisions by well over 90%. somewhere there is a middle ground.
  30. 4 points
    The current Mrs Andy being a one time luvvy, has offered (to me, tho what I can do about it is another matter) to tutor HM The Chief Minister on how to read PR shite. She cringes at every sentence, especially when he gets the emphasis on the wrong word. She reckons that any PR bod who knows the person who will deliver the information will write it in such a way as to avoid pitfalls, such as inflection and emphasis etc. So in this case both are as bad as each other and the result is what we're subjected to.
  31. 4 points
    TT doesn't tend to have the potential to wipe out 700 people over 3 months.
  32. 4 points
    It's not supposed to be demoralising, you're supposed to be excited at the way everyone is joining together and marching forward to the NEW NORMAL! Get on board Mr Misery and chant after me NEW NORMAL NEW NORMAL NEW NORMAL Yippee!
  33. 4 points
    My friend and her friend were killed on the corner at the top of the Ballamhoda, two teenagers were damaged for life and a woman and a baby were thrown from one of the cars and all caused by some low life without the necessary skills or documents to even be on the road who thought he was invincible and able to handle a car at high speed. How on earth we can keep the roads and society clear of such zombie cretins I don't know, however, bleeding hearts and concern about their, 'rights', certainly don't bring back the dead! As an aside, he managed to get out of it uninjured!
  34. 4 points
    And only a few stick with it. Much like nursing it is a vocation and people who do it need to be highly motivated to stick it out. If it is such an attractive career why don't more people teach?
  35. 4 points
    Seems a bit unfair to ask the people to pay for their own fibre infrastructure then pay probably the highest rates in europe to the company they have just paid to install the infrastructure for. Any mention of a reduction in bills?
  36. 4 points
    Well I'm no expert, not by a long way, but here's why I think that. It's because uncontrolled transmission is an absolute disaster. You cannot protect the vulnerable if everyone else is carrying the virus. It's just abandoning those that need help to their deaths. While it is clear now that the most severe results disproportionately affects the elderly or already ill, it is also clear that this is not 'just a flu' and that it can badly affect anyone. Look at the state of Boris, who 6? weeks after contracting it still clearly isn't right. I don't know what approaching the end of life means really, my nana was in a nursing home for 7 years before she died. Lots of people go on about Sweden's attempts to keep things open while protecting their vulnerable, but even their chief med guy has admitted they got it wrong. If a huge amount of the population has the virus it is going to be incredibly hard to keep it out of those areas, if very few do then the task is much easier. You protect the vulnerable by protecting all. The UK locked down to late and too loosely and we are going to see the consequences of that for a long time rather than the lockdown itself. Talking from hindsight, which he is too, an early, short, strict lockdown followed by intense contact tracing and isolating would have been the right approach. Governments and health organisations have spent decades planning for exactly this kind of event, it is amazing that the UK have got it so wrong. It is less amazing that the US have. The economy will always bounce back, people will make it happen. Sadly some businesses will go to the wall, and the already rich will probably pick up the pieces further enriching themselves, but that's a whole different argument. We can now watch the consequences of his approach in real time, as we watch Brazil descend into an absolute pit of hell.
  37. 4 points
    By 'healthy' I assume they mean financially. In which case if they are financially healthy why do they need to stop paying their rent?
  38. 4 points
    That article was misleading to say the least IIRC. Yes, a bus cleaner did earn a seemingly inordinate amount of money but I seem to recall that it arose from a staffing problem leading to a small number of cleaners having to work all hours under the sun to keep up. Before we start hanging the bus drivers and lower grade employees, let's have a look at the DOI/BV management headcount and salaries. Including I. Longworth. And the financial conduct thereof that's been all too apparent in recent years.
  39. 4 points
    @Josem and @Roger Mexico i agree there’s good reason to make the model, the assumptions, and the data, available. Not sure when, and @Josem I’m not sure what purpose it will serve you now. @wrighty would have assisted all he could. Even if you had an FOI. Not responding and saying thanks, but no thanks, is just arrogant. He’s the nicest surgeon I’ve ever met and a good communicator. But isn’t this what it’s really all about. Communication. Clear, unambiguous, concise. Getting the message over, what the problem is, what we are going to do, and why and ( as best able ) when. Most don’t give a monkeys about the data and it’s interpretation. I’m assuming that’s why Chris Thomas, or Rees Mogg haven’t been allowed at the briefings. They waffle, use 1000 words when 10 would do, or quote Ancient Greek or Roman or Jesuit philosophers. @Josem you too use too many words. The intent and meaning gets lost. Ive given up listening to the briefings. They’re tedious and a poor device. The information is unreliable. It’s contradictory. i read the précis. I’m doing the same for Spain, Bulgaria, and New Zealand. The first two have presentational issues, and contradictions, but the route is clear and it’s reviewed and changes explained. New Zealand has had Jacinda and she is a cogent, clear, concise communicator. Huge approval ratings. Better experience all round. IoM needed to find their best communicator, and have fewer briefings.
  40. 4 points
    She was priceless in Tynwald yesterday. I had the misfortune to tune in, although I wish I'd had a pint of whatever Bungalow Bill had been drinking, he sounded shitfaced. Anyhoo, they were arguing about the tramlines. DOI has fucked up a newsletter which suggested that the tram tracks wouldn't go all the way (frigid I guess). Harmer was explaining (in a Chis Thomas stylee) that they didn't intend to shorten the tracks at all and they were simply delaying them until after the summer of 2021. The covid delays meant that they were unlikely to finish before March 2021. Crusading Kate wanted to know why he hadn't come back to Tynwald to debate this. Harmer said there was nothing to debate as it was all going to be done in line with the Tynwald agreement and all was happening was a delay. Mr Rodent then asked her to stop banging on about the prom. She didn't agree and then came out with the "tea spitter" This isn't about the prom Mr President this is about democracy. She's fighting for our rights* *but unlikely to take any responsibility for our debts
  41. 4 points
    After the bank holiday Easter weekend the doom and gloom gang were predicting a rise in cases it never happened. They then predicted a rise when the construction industry went back. It never happened. Let's try and be positive for once.
  42. 4 points
    I agree. Whether or not you agree with wrighty's position it is lovely to read a clear and concise explanation of his personal view. If only Government could be as clear and concise as I might agree or disagree with their position, but at least I would understand it, know what it is and could plan accordingly.
  43. 4 points
    I think the biggest effect that this will have is that young adults will actually have a fighting chance.
  44. 4 points
    You're kidding yeah? What, like a load of belly-aching on here and more of the same on the comments section on iomtoady? Or perhaps farcebook? That's as far as it would go except maybe some token gesturing by one or two MHK's. Manxies haven't got the balls to take things any further for centuries the population has done little else but cap-doffing and forelock-tugging to land-owner entitlement. They know their place.
  45. 4 points
    Yeah, sorry, I'll try to behave.
  46. 4 points
    Not the point. What is the source for your conjectured figures? The lower paid may not even have the means to sustain increased taxation given the existing living costs here. Their savings and reserves (if they have any) may have depleted or exhausted. The Govt's own bloat is unsustainable, and has been for a decade or more. And is currently continuing with several thousand Public Servants laid off on full pay on an indefinite basis. COVID needs to be the catalyst for considerable change and it's as yet showing no signs of being so. Entirely personally I'll have no compunction whatsoever about leaving the Island if faced with an unaffordable taxation burden and I doubt I'll be alone. Particularly if that burden is in the name of maintaining the policies, let alone the failures, of the past.
  47. 4 points
    The whole thing, invitations of interest, tender, award, planning, litigation by the losing tenderer, has been played in the public realm for 3 years. Everyone knew it was happening, everyone knew it would start early 2020; apart from you and @asitis ). Sorry to bust the conspiracy bubble.
  48. 4 points
    it may change how they think, but many people are in so much debt they will need to be back to working every second they can to avoid going bankrupt.
  49. 3 points
    Anyone calling for the speed limit to be lifted, or even questioning it just now should have their licence taken off them. And their vehicle crushed etc. There said it. Incidentally, with others of course, I once campaigned and lobbied, I would like to think with a good degree of success, in keeping the 'no limit'. An All-Island Speed Limit was up in Tynwald and the motion lost by the closest possible of margins. A single vote in one of the disagreeing branches. I had good reasons to do that at the time but increasingly these days I am wondering if my efforts were misguided.
  50. 3 points
    Don't worry, it's all been organised. There will be an en-route issuance of a 14-day 'All in one' suppository administered by the Bosun on the Ben. Cost price, choice of pork or beef flavour. Just listen out for 7 or more short blasts followed by one long blast on the ships whistle.
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