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  1. With respect, you are. Without @rachomics on island PCR testing for covid would not have happened when it did, if at all. Of course, Rizwan Khan and Steve Doyle were vital too - sorry don’t know Dr Shields. One reason Rachel needs to be involved in testing strategy discussions is logistics. She knows better than everyone how much we can do here, and how quickly etc. It’s no good someone announcing a mass-testing policy at borders, for example, if there’s been no discussion as to how it might or might not work.
    22 points
  2. Even Santa will get three weeks in prison if he comes to the Isle of Man. That's what I've told my kids anyway.
    21 points
  3. 16 points
  4. ...and I so wanted a long illustrious career at the DHSC I run my own company so my involvement with the DHSC to set up and keep the COVID19 lab running wasn't exactly in the professional career plan... Compared to DHSC employees and civil servants, I'm in the position where I don't need to worry about the mortgage payments if I get sacked for questioning things as I have my day-job at my company. So I question things. On the flip side of that I'm pretty sure there are a few in the DHSC and civil service who would love to see my head on a spike for daring to speak up. OK. So fir
    15 points
  5. Not for increasingly authoritarian governments. If the whole of the civil service as well as MP’s were forced to relinquish their salary during any lockdown I would interested to see how quick they would resort to it. See when you have no worries about whether the bills are being paid or your future income is under threat it’s a lot easier to tell others they need to shut up shop.
    13 points
  6. what did you do before the police then ?
    13 points
  7. Hmmm personal freedoms. I can go to work, meet friends, go shopping, eat out, go to the pub and pretty much come and go as I please. Yes there is a 14 day self-isolation thing, but when I look around at the rest of the British Islands right now, I'll take that. I'm not really bothered about the basis on which it was done and the medical evidence is of no interest to me as I have no medical qualifications. PS Nice work JW - long overdue.
    13 points
  8. To be honest, I'd love to know who @drgrumpy is as they clearly seem to have an issue with me. My personal grievance is with the system as a whole. I spent 15 years in DEFRA and I never saw anything like the inefficiency, number of jobsworths and backstabbing that I've seen in the IoM Government within the last 7 months. It's absolutely shocking but, if I'm honest, not entirely unexpected.
    12 points
  9. Ah, but she’s been ‘away’ and learned stuff. changes you, all that...
    12 points
  10. Twenty years ago when the schools became devolved and management of the school budgets lay with the head teachers is when things began to change. The money was and is in exam enrolment. When the vocational equipment was being ripped out of the schools, people who knew what would happen protested loudly. People who knew argued that no every child was academic, not every child was able to study and sit GCSE’s and come out with a decent grade. People who knew argued that we needed welders and electricians and plumbers and joiners and that some children were suited to this work and had
    12 points
  11. Really good stuff here. So good to be able to read it all without having to sift through the ya boo sucks brigade joining in. It’s about balancing the risk. It’s what life is all about but too often the government goes too far and a large portion of the population see them as the parent who is to be obeyed. It leads to learned helplessness - or - as we are seeing elsewhere the other side where people are saying enough. I’m reminded about years ago when ‘stranger danger’ was what the message was. The occasional child was taken, abused and never seen again. As abhorrent as th
    11 points
  12. What we see here is the part that luck has played in our good fortune. Luck that we happened to have someone with Rachel’s expertise on Island when we did. Has anyone given a thought to where we might be right now if she hadn’t been here? I sincerely hope that in due course she gets some real recognition. Every now and then in a major operation, one person truly makes a difference. This woman is one such individual.
    11 points
  13. Is there a breakdown of how many of the additional crimes were committed by serving police officers?
    11 points
  14. Ignore him John, he's always trying to turn a discussion into a contest. One where he's the referee, governing body, and changes the rules on a whim. Where even though he's the only one playing, and he declares himself the overall champion, somehow he still always loses.
    11 points
  15. There probably would be, but it would be far more hamstrung than it already is. Initially, UK Royal College guidance was for elective patients to test and then isolate for 14 days before retesting. We went somewhat ‘out on a limb’ and brought in a 3 day policy, given our covid-free status. This was not without regulatory difficulty. Consequently, at Noble’s we’ve had almost 3 months of near normal elective surgery. In Liverpool they managed a week. We couldn’t have done this without local testing and would probably have been bound to the 14 day rule initially, although interestingly
    10 points
  16. Absolutely, and I have blown the trumpet publicly many times about the microbiology team and how much they "stepped up" to take on testing that would normally not be anywhere near a hospital lab. However, that testing would not have existed had I not sent an email to Steve Doyle back in March. The microbiology department would have, effectively, been a Post Office for sending samples to PHE in Manchester on a 3-day turnaround. If I were to walk away from the on-Island testing to concentrate on my business there would be no elective surgery, no endoscopy, and most hospital admissions would
    10 points
  17. Neither, she is honest, which in this day and age is to be applauded and if only Dr RG had some colleagues who had the balls to stand up to the CM we may well be a bit more transparent and have a clear forward plan which we are lacking.
    10 points
  18. I was mostly annoyed because they were telling anyone who listened to the briefing that I'm external. I'm still a DHSC employee despite it not exactly being something I intended to be. As a private individual it concerns me that if I were to switch to being an external contractor instead that my expertise in the area would only be listened to if it agreed with the Chief Minister. I was always taught that you should surround yourself with people who disagree with you; it eliminates confirmation bias in decision making.
    10 points
  19. 10 points
  20. I cannot believe they are wasting money raising the sea wall to stop overtopping, when the current sea wall cannot do its job because the beach has moved over the decades. All that is needed is a couple of blokes in JCBs to move the beach back over a few weeks. Existing sea wall can then do its job.
    10 points
  21. I'm not religious, despite being brought up CofE, and I think it's great that a new Islamic centre is being considered. Most muslims I've worked with over the years have been kind, considerate and just the most lovely people. Muslims very unfairly get stereotyped because of a tiny, tiny radicalised minority.
    10 points
  22. The whole problem with the reduce numbers/have fewer argument is that it wholly forgets that for a parliamentary democracy to work there are certain numbers required to fill official positions, presiding officer, chief minister, departmental ministers and then you need an opposition or scrutiny section. That takes 25-35 to be effective. We have gone down two wrong roads. First, virtually everyone is beholden to the Chief Minister for 25% of their income, so they can’t really scrutinise and hold to account. Second, we’ve cast LegCo as the opposition, scrutiny body. We have confus
    10 points
  23. That’s missing the point. Our levels and triggers for moving levels are fixed and inflexible and aren’t moving with the medical advice and the practical experience. Of course we are lucky from the point of view of not having Covid. But it’s a cul de sac. We won’t stay Covid free forever. And when it gets here there’s potentially a bigger risk of a nasty spread, very quickly. We can’t isolate forever. It is damaging to our economy, and the longer we stay locked up the worse it becomes. We aren’t a sealed economy. We aren’t internally self sufficient. Lots of our money gets sent off Is
    9 points
  24. Not long. Gladys was correct. You cannot base an economy on selling foreign made products to each other. Local service and support industries are important but there needs to be wealth creation. On the IOM most of the wealth creation is the export of Financial Services products (and some manufacturing) . Without that, the rest would not happen. Without outside contact, the relationships that facilitate those sales will degrade. Thus, in the short-term Lockdown preserves our health and is required but it cannot persist long-term or the economy will decline.
    9 points
  25. The issue is that there is a polarization of views with the mainly well off older population wanting more restrictions and the younger, more disadvantaged population wanting less restrictions. The more severe the restrictions the more jobs are lost and most of those losing jobs are the ones who can’t work from home mainly younger poorly paid workers. If a widely available vaccine is not ready until mid 2021 or later then eventually all economies will have to open up and tell vulnerable to shield otherwise there will be no economy left to pay for health, education , pensions etc
    9 points
  26. The issues related to current border restrictions in the Isle of Man as compared to its Covid-nemesis Jersey have already been eviscerate with such comprehensive detail in this thread that there isn’t much that comes to my mind that hasn’t been said already. Nonetheless, I wish to point out that Jersey’s border policy is sustainable in the longer term, ours isn’t. Among the cacophony of Covid restrictions and lockdowns, revised and updated on a daily basis in the main island of our archipelago (quite ridiculously); here are two focal points of a factually-based perspective: 1) Covid
    9 points
  27. I don't think there's a good answer for the UK. As a rule of thumb, the brits are too individualistic these days to be able to wear a mask for anyone but themselves. Even the 'don't kill your gran' messaging isn't particularly effective at this point. A lot of compliance to arbitrary 'covid secure' rules just isn't happening. Here, the fact that Doris in Castletown knows if you fart up in Andreas is working reasonably well to maintain a sense of community responsibility. People in England especially understandably have no faith in the restrictions as everything else has been so lackadaisi
    9 points
  28. 9 points
  29. I’ve read it. The whole article has a very off-putting, conspiratorial, flat-earth, climate-change-denying style. Whereas some of what he writes has merit - T-cell immunity, lower IFR etc - he’s definitely skewing the figures to suit his own ‘SAGE are all incompetent’ agenda. The reality is that the second wave is coming - at least in the NW. ITU beds filling up, something like 600+ covid cases admitted to Liverpool hospitals right now, they’re on the verge of cancelling elective work, and we’re having to come up with contingency plans for how to deal with non-covid stuff here that o
    9 points
  30. And that is one of the most damning indictments about the Civil Service you can find and why the majority of our issues in Government exist
    9 points
  31. Thermite welding is hardly a controlled explosion . It uses a thermite composition to produce a high temperature controlled heating of the rail ends to weld them together, although why on Earth we need welded rails on our Toytown, low speed rail system I don't know Fish plates provided a solution for years, uses low tech and is very versatile both for maintenance and versatility.
    9 points
  32. Sigh. Why is it that we have to wait for a major incident (jail, controversy on the world wide stage) before someone realises that perhaps expecting workers to come from the U.K. to a different jurisdiction with different laws to know the exact details of those laws. It’s all very well saying they should have read the forms, that the boss should have done his homework but the fact is they didn’t be he didn’t. If we’re serious about this then we have to make it completely clear as to the current position, the rules and the resultant behaviour of those rules are ignored. There are a lo
    9 points
  33. That was a big McSteak.
    9 points
  34. The debate in this thread is going nowhere. It seems to be very polarised - "keep the borders closed, we're doing great" vs "keeping the borders shut is killing us, let's do a Jersey". It's a bit more nuanced, as usual. Jersey are definitely taking a risk with their day 1 test policy. It's a fact that they'll miss as many positive cases as they find doing it that way. That may well not be many - even in the worst places in the UK the infection rate is only 1 in 400. Most of the UK is a lot less than that. It may be a calculated risk - it seems that Jersey need tourists more than we
    9 points
  35. Equipment isn't really the main issue - it's space and more importantly staffing. In the first wave of covid here the recovery area of theatre was re-purposed as an ITU, and theatre staff were retrained, to an extent, to be able to function effectively in an ITU. A couple of months ago the recovery went back to its usual function to allow operating theatres to start running at capacity again. So currently we have the usual 6 ITU beds, but are back to full theatre capacity, pretty much. Should we suddenly require lots of ITU beds for covid it will be much quicker than last time to switc
    9 points
  36. The only problem with this "spat" for me is you can't have your cake and eat it. You can't tag Tim Glover in Tweets slagging off the Gov and then be surprised it becomes news stories, talk about how your position allows you to bare it all and speak your mind then delete your Twitter. I personally am as thankful for the public outing of poor management as I am for the excellent work undertaken to help the IOM with Covid testing. But this is just the opening salvo - the IOM needs to tackle it properly and having a fight and then silence with a few trumpet blowing comments that are eas
    8 points
  37. You seem to know a lot more than is in the public domain. And yet you had to look up Rachel Glover? Hmmm...
    8 points
  38. So tell me, why do surgeons wear masks? I doubt the NHS would spend swathes of money on aesthetics. Why do ambulance crews don masks when dealing with potentially infectious patients? If you're buying into this 'oh masks make you ill' nonsense, think how many people work all day every day in quite adverse environments in full-face respirators. Breathing through particle filters is far harder than an old t-shirt. We can find a well reviewed, cited paper from a decade ago looking at the effectiveness of masks if you like: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/ar
    8 points
  39. My neighbour’s nine year old grandson.
    8 points
  40. I believe that this is the revised version but there have been objections from the public and as far as I can see, there has been insufficient time for anyone to review it? People are trying to get the plan delayed until after the 2021 census but I believe that unless this plan is put through Tynwald before this year end, it will have to be completely revisited from scratch? This may not be such a bad thing inview of the apparent neglect of brown field sites and Paul Craine's recent analysis of the shrinking school rolls. I'm all for a vibrant island which is self sustainable but the plan seem
    8 points
  41. My daily commute. At least 25 now since, by my reckoning going on Police/news reports and obvious incident marks on roads and verges. Including one which was almost a head on into me at Brandywell two weeks ago. The dicks need protecting from themselves, they're not fit to be on the roads. And everybody else needs protecting from the dicks.
    8 points
  42. Here or across? Here we’ve got it pretty good. It is difficult for some not being able to freely travel, but it would be worse if we started filling up Noble’s with covid cases, and shutting down businesses again. For the time being I don’t think there’s much else to be done over here. In the UK I’m torn between the circuit-breaker idea, and just thinking they may as well crack-on. All the half-arsed measures over the past few months have got them where exactly? The paddle-free brown smelly river, that’s where. Adopt the Swedish model and go for herd immunity, but expect a deadl
    8 points
  43. Or they are a totalitarian coercive society where the state acts wearing size 15 jackboots in its lock down.
    8 points
  44. Someone from the DOI was driving along Bucks Road and... .... I know!!!
    8 points
  45. I'm definitely getting the feeling that there are a few about who don't like having someone around who is civil service savvy (I spent 15 years at DEFRA in the UK) and who has been professionally trained by way of a scientific PhD to ask awkward questions to fish for the real answer. In the UK civil service they wouldn't feel so threatened as it's more normal.
    8 points
  46. Asylum seekers pads while the paperwork is done? I’m getting fed up with the knob who keeps phoning Andy Winge on MR to complain that he, as a business owner, making money out of people paying him rent, has to follow some guidelines, rules and regulations. if you feed people for a living, you have rules to follow. If you supply people with heat, light, gas, clothes, holidays, cars, pets, phones, bicycles .. in fact any bloody thing, you have rules and regulations to follow. Get used to it you moaning sod.
    8 points
  47. The problem with locking down the vulnerable is what would you do with the non-vulnerable who look after them? I’m talking care assistants, nurses, therapists etc. Are they to be locked down too? And their families? The logical conclusion is that it has to be all or nothing. I don’t think there should be lockdowns. I don’t think option C is viable either. It really is a difficult problem to get right. Here, I’m afraid there’s no option but to carry on as we are, hopefully with a move to level 3 borders. In the UK it seems despite the rules everyone’s doing what they want. They shoul
    8 points
  48. Give it a rest FFS.
    8 points
  49. To be frank, PK, you have done nothing but snipe, harange and hector throughout this debate. People have tried to explain their position, but your response are always dismissive (see your last comment above) and demanding, yes, DEMANDING, a reply to some impossible question or 'facts'. Yet you don't reply to questions. You have to understand that people have real concerns about how this is going to pan out, you have your concerns, but allow others to voice theirs without putting them through some kind of interrogatory pummelling. In reply to the thrust of your reply above, the be
    8 points
  50. As a private citizen she is quite within her rights to set up a petition. She is also permitted to criticize Gov provided it doesn't bring her into conflict with her employer. She shouldn't do any of this stuff while at work. I wouldn't read too much into the media regurgitating her profession. FFS they talk about flinty being an ex-rozzer every time they wheel him out and he's been gone for so long that his experience of policing operations is fast becoming obsolete. She is also the worst Head RGS have had in living memory. The staff dislike her as do the students. She is entirely to bla
    8 points
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