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  1. "Likely to go up" does not mean "actually its 108 because I have told Tynwald that" , cmon we are adults here, we don't need spin we just need to get ourselves out of this position! "Likely to rise" also does not mean, actually I know its 108 and have told Tynwald!
    8 points
  2. 7 points
  3. They should just completely throw everyone off-kilter tomorrow. Cregeen and Harmer to do the briefing and @wrighty to do the figures, but only by song and on an old upright piano. Laurence Skelly can do the 'message to the kids' section. Give Howie, Ashie and Hetty a break.
    7 points
  4. Jesus Fucking Christ, I always said I wouldn’t get drawn in to ‘debating’ with dunces on here and yet here I am. You have got laser precision focus on one tiny element of this and have lost sight (or never had sight) of the bigger picture. I couldn’t give a fuck if the daily new cases figure (note, this is generally singular and not plural) is 1000 or is even lower than your IQ. There’s nothing really we can do at this stage other than stay at home, follow the instructions, and take care. It is almost entirely out of our control. The issues that other, smarter, people have are a
    6 points
  5. Come on now, when you're clearly hard of thinking, but you reckon it's all very straightforward indeed and you fully understand it. But other, smarter, grown ups are explaing that there is still an issue with the figures, it's surely worth stopping, having a bonus little think, and considering that you may have actually missed the point BY 1000 FUCKING LIGHTYEARS, YET AGAIN.
    6 points
  6. We'll call it Howard's big release - just for Roxanne's weird crush purposes
    6 points
  7. This notion that we could be some kind of covid free utopia is utter pie in the sky and that for me is partly to blame for this current hysteria over case numbers, if 6 months ago they had come out and said we will do what we can but ultimately it will be around forever and we will have outbreaks I think people would be handling this a lot better
    5 points
  8. Completely agree with all Marco said, it’s a complete and utter bollocks of a job and those mhks who try to put spin on it plus the ones with there heads in the sand should hang there heads in shame.
    5 points
  9. the best thing about this is that there is not a deaths number which is a win for me.
    4 points
  10. In the end what this boils down to is the confidence we have in our leadership to manage what is a national crisis. The last few years have seen nothing but mismanegment in almost every sphere, which we are sincerely hoping has not, and will not, spill over into a scenario which potentially affects every one of us. We need leadership,cogent thinking and speedy action. None of what I have seen so far fills me with confidence that the people delivering this actually have any of that.
    4 points
  11. There is no doubt Ashford was uncomfortable when challenged by PM, he was very meek towards the end when asked when live data would be coming, replying in the next few days. That was the time to explore the disparity further. The simple question is why would the govt. prefer to release 56 new cases rather than 110? Then roll over the remaining to today, so in effect we constantly play catch up until matters calm. It is similar to having to ask what the variant is at the beginning and Hetty eventually confirming it is the Kent variant. This should have been released in the main body of
    4 points
  12. FFS listen to the full clip yourself. I’m sorry it doesn’t fit your actual agenda but it is what was actually said. I’ve edited my post above to reflect the actual words spoken now. He also makes it clear than the 108 figure he gave Tynwald was an estimate. The actual number was 110. But I suppose if he said 108 then at 8:15pm a load of people on social media would be beating him up for lying as the actual figure was 2 more at 110.
    4 points
  13. You fancy a job in retail?
    3 points
  14. Ashie's been quite an instinctive and nimble footed performer at the lectern but he fucked up yesterday because he was given the wrong advice and instructions. He needs to bollock someone this morning and assert his ministerial authority - if he really has any. I think the public have largely trusted him but yesterday didn't look good. The journalists had an open goal there yesterday but couldn't even find the ball.
    3 points
  15. No it was 56 minutes in.......but that might change later
    3 points
  16. I think the bigger issue is that people have been encouraged to by newer enviro friendly low emission / electric / hybrid cars and would effectively now be shit on and told "thanks for buying your efficient new quasqui, you'll now be paying twice as much as the guy with the polluting 15 year old fiesta". I dont mind paying to tax my cars. But they all pretty new and it seems potentially unfair to be getting slapped with much increased taxes when the drive was around environmentally friendly purchases.
    3 points
  17. what time on yesterdays video does ashie make sense of the numbers ?? anybody ?? CowMan ?
    3 points
  18. From my perspective, and that of others, it isn't the numbers but clear communication that is the issue. Tbh, many have been saying since this first took hold, that covid free was an unreal expectation and would like to see measures taken to mitigate the impact of a return. In other words, realistic policies to manage expectations.
    3 points
  19. Kate Lord-Brennan has Tweeted highlighting that this matter isn’t on the Tynwald Order paper and setting out the difference between behind closed doors briefings and public debate in the Tynwald chamber. She takes issue with MR parroting Quayle’s remarks which may not be the whole truth. She falls short of castigating our opaque and unreliable government but one senses that she’d like to.
    3 points
  20. Yes, it’s definitely David Beckham’s fault. Harry came from a normal down to earth family with no delusions of status, importance, or deserving respect.
    3 points
  21. Well, I've just been tested and can't compliment the process enough. I was called on Sunday night about 9pm and told I had been in close contact with someone in an enclosed room for more than 15 mins on Monday 1st March who has since tested positive. They don't tell you exactly who or where, I'm assuming to avoid any witch hunts. Yesterday lunchtime I had the test. 10 minute queue. The 'swabbers' were remarkably cheery and friendly. The swabbing was unpleasant but not as horrendous as many would have you believe. At midnight I received the test result. Negative luckily.
    3 points
  22. I have listened and as you say I largely don't understand the english language. At least I don't understand the convoluted, disingenuous , arse covering language to explain what he thought others didn't know! I think MHK's are beginning to break ranks and you will see more of the truths emerging!
    3 points
  23. After going in hard and fast?
    3 points
  24. At least Beirut used to be called the Paris of the Middle East once. Douglas has only be likened with plaster of Paris.
    3 points
  25. What on earth is wrong with a PR training certificate from the University of Pyongyang?
    3 points
  26. It’s one of those “no shit Sherlock” moments though isn’t it? They close all the tips but keep the construction trade open and then they wonder why people have started fly tipping crap ripped out of houses.
    2 points
  27. School go back this week so expect a spike in cases but if the vaccine roll out is going well and in the UK it looks like it is that shouldn't make a difference, I have said it before we need to stop the obsession with the case numbers.
    2 points
  28. 2 points
  29. Yes, you’re preaching to the converted here. I know exactly what has happened. I was one of those comments.
    2 points
  30. They did...it ran out of film 3 years ago.
    2 points
  31. You contradict yourself. If Quayle gets to September and retires ( which is what he has said he will do ), he won’t be held to account. A no confidence motion before September is the only way to hold them to account.
    2 points
  32. 2 points
  33. 2 points
  34. I’m all good, thanks. You keep banging on about the audio clip, we know about it and we’ve heard it. These are not tiny differences, the difference between the two figures is almost 100%. The figures are important. Everything else you say is bang on, although I would suggest that we are unlikely to see any progress on any of those other issues you rightly mention when they are basically making up the numbers.
    2 points
  35. I wonder what Liary, Crawly and Mo-notonous will have to say at the briefing today?
    2 points
  36. You seem to have woken up quite angry. Are you ok? You also seem to be getting confused in all of this by just wanting to attack a poster as a primary objective. Making stuff up to fit an agenda when there is a clear sound clip online of what was actually said is what I disagree with. That’s all. I’ve already said Ashford is totally out of his depth. He’s also supported by two departments which are totally out of their depth (DHSC and Cabinet Office) but he said what he said. It was unambiguous. A lot of this is general bungling, crappy systems, and incompetence not some vast conspiracy t
    2 points
  37. Yeah, it’s an absolute mystery why, all of a sudden, ‘everyone is getting so hung up on numbers’. Or, maybe, it’s the only solid indicator of the current situation and has been for the past year. All we have is the number, all of the rest is the spin, bullshit, and mumbling and bumbling from the podium. It’s also what the government use to help decide if we need to tighten or relax restrictions. So yeah, people do reckon it’s actually quite important and worth getting right.
    2 points
  38. I’m not sure why everyone is getting so hung up on numbers? It’s here & we could argue it’s never gone away. The important thing is the vaccination rollout & getting all +50’s & vulnerable done so we can move on. The mortality figures from this outbreak will be telling in regards under 70’s. Many people have argued consistently that there had to be a way to shield & protect the elderly & high risks groups whilst the majority of the population cracked on. We’ll see & history will judge.
    2 points
  39. The point being made is that if Mr P hasn’t said anything we would not have known and we would merrily go about thinking the figures are the smaller number. It was only after it was questioned the waffle started. it’s quite interesting if you scroll back a lot of pages you can almost watch unfold live via the posts as it starts off people saying “oh not very high that’s good etc”. it shouldn’t be a case of the truth coming out only when it’s questioned. The truth should come out from the beginning. It is this sort of behavior which makes people think why bother.
    2 points
  40. It’s just like Trump! Even though he is dead to me.
    2 points
  41. ........Half six the next morning
    2 points
  42. I like how people are calling him out and showing him how to recover deleted posts. I think I've been on FB since 2007 and never seen a post just disappear.
    2 points
  43. I think it's just face-saving at this stage and trying to pretend that Ashford's garbled and dishonest answer was somehow meaningful. I suspect the civil servants might be less willing to alter the cumulative totals because I think that is the figure that gets formally reported to WHO, which is why they don't reset it to zero. (The NZ media releases always used to make this point about having to report every case to WHO, even the managed isolation ones that hadn't been in the community). So they might not want to fix an 'official' statistic, rather than something in a media statement.
    2 points
  44. Didn't the UK have a red faced moment over a spreadsheet? Even so, a simple spreadsheet of vaccine in and vaccine out could be maintained in real time. It is, after all, just stock control.
    2 points
  45. The important bit is at the beginning. At that stage there should have been an explanation that there were x results waiting to be fed in and that expectation was the number would rise to in the region of y, rather than wait to be ambushed by PM. I posted this earlier on. If it takes a question to flush this kind of information it doesn't give confidence that there was transparent reporting to the public. It could be heavily caveated, but the information would have been volunteered not wormed out. After all, the y figure had been disclosed to Comin, so why not be upfront? That is
    2 points
  46. Find it fascinating how much of an uproar this has caused while Prince "He who cannot sweat" is mooching about still noshing a 10" deep dish
    2 points
  47. With those technical skills I assume you head up GTS and have responsibility for the 111 line, vaccine booking, and collection of testing figures?
    2 points
  48. Being upfront about would imply they said it at the beginning of the briefing when they gave numbers. They didn't - they only started giving this 'explanation' when Moulton called them out on it 40 minutes later. And the 'explanation' doesn't even work because the total number of completed tests hasn't increased. It's still 36418 with only 1 other test awaiting results, just as it was at the start of the press conference. So obviously any later tests done or analysed aren't included in either set of figures (which you'd expect). We still don't know what periods things relate to, bu
    2 points
  49. Not bullying. (It’s interesting the kind of poster who is the first to level that allegation). Just a robust response to your condescending and inaccurate assertion that I have a doomsday scenario in my head.
    2 points
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