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  1. The situation is quite simple. The situation giving rise to the Tribunal, where his megalomaniac CEO bullied and was out of control, happened on his watch as Minister. Whether he involved himself, knew, was deliberately blind, is irrelevant. He has ultimate responsibility politically. He should have resigned immediately the Tribunal decision was distributed, and if he didn’t then Cannan should have sacked him. All the stuff about whether Ewart, or Ranson, or Glover, were right, or wrong, is irrelevant. Who was minister for DHSC? David. Which department did these terrible things? David’s. Who has to resign? David. if he’d done the decent and honourable thing there’d have been much less of the opprobrium. Why is there so much opprobrium? Because he didn’t do the decent thing. He’s now tarred, as is Cannan, with being tone deaf, attempting to cling on to power, not taking ultimate responsibility. A simple. “ It happened on my watch. The behaviour of the department towards Dr Ranson was insupportable. I apologise, as former DHSC minister to Dr Ranson, unreservedly. I regret it happened. I take full political responsibility. That is why I have resigned.” Would have been good.
    28 points
  2. What is it with you lot and the constant negativity? Tourists could be handing out twenty quid notes and the likes of you would complain “meh I want a 50.” Seriously. That group has been coming here for 40 YEARS without fail. Even in 2001 he came. Only corona prevented them the last two years. Sometimes up to ten of them and usually only with their bikes, so limited space to bring stuff. Loads of money spent by them on the island. People stop by there to chat and have a drink and at the end they clean it all up again. Gruseleck is the type of thing no overpaid TT marketing bod could ever come up with even if he tried. This year only Klaus is here from the original group and he came by car instead of bike due to health issues. Anyone who stops by there is greeted by a warm smile and offered a drink or food. The back story, the kindness and hospitality, and the genuine fucking love these people have for the island is priceless and all you lot can do is complain. Makes me sad and angry.
    14 points
  3. Could you elaborate and explain what you think my "nonsense" was? Feel free to give specifics, time points, how it distracted - exactly - from the "job in hand".
    13 points
  4. What is vulgar is the treatment of professionals engaged to look after your and my health. Not only Dr R, but Dr G, Dr T (which seems to have dropped off the radar) the four anaesthetists and there are probably more who have not made the headlines. That is vulgar, abhorrent, scandalous and sordid, not some humorous (possibly) post on the Internet.
    13 points
  5. Let’s not forget that, although the bullying of Dr Ranson was disgraceful and very indicative of the moral dereliction at the top of Government, over and above that was the falsification of documents to the Tribunal. This matter has yet to be fully explored and subject to public scrutiny but I would expect that an internal assessment has taken place. Falsifying documents to a legal body, by Government, strikes at the very heart of the legitimacy, morality and principles of Government and would raise serious questions about the ability of the Island to govern itself. I have no doubt that this round of resignations and retirements is a push to clear out all those in senior roles that are or could be implicated in this illegal and unprincipled act, before any enquiry takes place. There will be those that were involved in the alleged falsification and those that would have known that the document was false but said nothing. The broom will have to be wide and wielded with the intention of performing a proper clear out if the reputation of the IOM Government is going to be protected.
    12 points
  6. He clearly still doesn’t get it does he? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ashford-urged-to-take-time-to-reflect-before-resignation-speech/ After reading his cringeworthy resignation letter let’s hope we hear a bit of contrition tomorrow in his speech not just more of the buck passing and failure to ignore the reality of the situation. Although I’m not sure why it even needs a speech as the letter is long enough. This is hardly Winston Churchill resigning just some delusional tit.
    12 points
  7. Ransongate throws a blanket of suspicion over other departmental refutations of allegations made against them. The possible copyright infingements on the software developed for the path lab; Ashford's burble and brouhaha when those allegations came about was less than convincing, as were statements made before and after the PAC inquiry over Glovergate. We eagerly awaited the "point-by-point rebuttal(s)" yet came there none. Instead, and eventually, we were left with "I've said all I've got to say on this matter and will say no more" - his effusively arrogant refusals to answer questions thereafter, delivered with the usual, 'how-very-dare-you' passive-aggressive inflection. A widely-adopted tactic cynically utilised by himself, Quayle and Ewart during the covid press-briefings when dealing with Moulton's continuing 'impertinence' for instance. All of whom it appears, heavily reliant on the direction of Magson. And now there's suspicion of possible criminal enterprise; forgery, fraud, collusion and whatever else may be revealed. Quintessential Quayle, quiet as a mouse. A figure central in the circle of influence at the time now appears to have no comment. "no comment" - a response which may be used with greater frequency if allegations of criminality are to be followed-up...
    11 points
  8. They need to install abut 400m of approach lights out into the sea to get the RVR required down to 550m from the current 1000m. It can be further reduced to 300m using CAT2 approaches, that would require less approach lights but better lighting on the airfield itself. For an airfield that is so prone to sea fog and low cloud, not to mention its importance as a lifeline link to the outside world, it beggars belief that the airport lacks the kit to allow the pilots to do their job to their potential. I’ve operated into all of the UK’s commercial airports, big and small, and nowhere has basic lights like what we do. It really is crap.
    11 points
  9. A Thomas Sowell quote "it is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong" And we're reaping it now.
    11 points
  10. 40 years ago they stopped there after one of them crashed at the corner in bad weather just after their arrival on the island one foggy night. They decided to camp there for the night as they were basically lost. The next nine years they came back and nobody ever said anything. Ten years in they were invited to town hall (not sure if Douglas or nearby) and they first thought they were in trouble and have to move. Instead, someone from local government - a person with clearly more kindness and vision than some people here - told them as they had been there ten years, they could stay there again every year if they wanted to. Now they have become one of the many little stories that makes the TT the TT and I love it. Luckily, grumpy old men who have nothing better to do than complain about things like this are in the minority.
    11 points
  11. Imagine giving it to a dilapidated shithole that isn't even maintained to a basic standard?
    11 points
  12. He said the same sort of thing about Dr.G. The point by point rebuttal that never materialised.
    10 points
  13. This young David fella used to work in the Outback. He now has an MBE and by the end of his current term will have taken in over half a million from tax payers in pay since he got into politics. Props, he's played you all.
    10 points
  14. It's taken the findings of a Tribunal to provoke this clearout. Where has the self-governance of the system been? The appraisals? Why were these flaws and conduct not picked up by the internal checks and balances? Where was the critical overview of these people and their performance in what was going on?
    10 points
  15. The impression received - rightly or wrongly - is that CS/PS jobs & pensions are being put ahead of services to the paying public
    10 points
  16. You’re being paranoid mate. Nobody knows what you did except you. You’ve got away with it. Put it behind you and stop worrying about it.
    9 points
  17. We’re all way too old to read text that small.
    9 points
  18. That's a bit low and unnecessary to be honest.
    9 points
  19. I remember the good old days. When Snap, Crackle and Pop were my breakfast cereal and not the sound of me getting out of bed...
    9 points
  20. He also made the point that the management had completely changed during his time as Minister, while the cultural problems had continued. Without realising quite what a self-own that was. Even by Ashford's standards that was quite a performance. Pompous, and self-regarding and embarrassing in its sucking up to Cannan and others. But completely unable to understand why he had to go. It simply isn't true that a Minister should take responsibility for everything that goes wrong in their Department and therefore resign when something does. That should only happen if they knew something was going on and did nothing about it and didn't investigate. Which is exactly what happened here and the Decision gave plenty of examples. He seems to think that because he did everything his CEO told him to, that somehow absolves him of responsibility. But it just means he was completely unfit for office and responsible for what did happen, including the way the bullying culture of DHSC got worse if anything.
    9 points
  21. You can't greenwash the TT, its a celebration of the internal combustion engine ffs.
    9 points
  22. Good to see the Gruseleck back
    9 points
  23. You didn’t read the Ranson Employment Tribunal decision, then?
    8 points
  24. Interesting. The pay and display car park in Castletown is changing to one with barrier controlled access. Not quite sure how they are doing it though. As we all know from the airport getting such a system is impossible.
    8 points
  25. Jesus ...you need to give it a rest. You related to DA or something?. And I think most on here have sympathy for RG particularly after the findings the other week came out .
    8 points
  26. We are way off topic now, but the day one of these electric vehicles catches fire on a steam packet ferry it will definitely be a local news topic. They have gone up in tunnels and in car parks and caused absolute mayhem. The idea of one on a ferry is grim.
    8 points
  27. Yes I'm sure any police officer coming from the UK would think "This is not like the sort of morally upright and law-abiding place that I am used to".
    8 points
  28. Lilly - yesterday in the House of Keys we voted in favour of a Private Member's Bill from Dr Alex Allinson which would allow assisted dying. I think the vote was 22:2 in favour and members spoke with some emotion about the issue.
    8 points
  29. No I have the Desiderata and underline the bits about the dull and ignorant and the loud and vexatious. If the principles were common sense, they wouldn't need to be set down and given to all holders of public office as the principles by which they hold their position. Yet no one is ever measured formally against them.
    8 points
  30. Just remember all the avoidable car crashes from Govt in the last 10+ years and think about what repercussions or sanctions have been applied to those responsible....nobody was ever accountable, that's why we are where we are now.
    8 points
  31. And mine. In fact she and DA should have been the first to offer up contrite resignations.
    8 points
  32. All these people hounded out by social media.....hounded, I tell thee.... 😂
    8 points
  33. This really beggars belief, as far as I am concerned these "Carbon Offset" schemes are only to be used where the operation or process has no other option and is needed by the planet to survive. For example making medicine or say, scientific experiments that will be for the better good but to try out need to produce carbon. CARBON OFFSET SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO GREEN WASH A "SPORT" DEATH FEST ON AN ISLAND THAT HAS, SHOCKINGLY AND NEVER REALLY FULLY EXPLAINED WHY, BOISPHERE STATUS DESPITE BEING REALLY, REALLY NOT GREEN* *See soon to be introduced car tax rules that ignore emissions, see no grants to install heat pumps, see no testing of vehicle emissions, see no published data on air quality, see no incentives to use public transport (Other than poor roads), see no speed limits, see no plans for sustainable electric generation, which is really quite shocking for an island which is VERY WINDY and has HUGE tidal flows. You get the sad picture. Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea? It is not just insensitive it is a bloody piss take, yet again with our hard earned taxpayers money. We need an alternative government, not just new MHKs but an entire new system, this one is beyond fixing.
    8 points
  34. Mr Thomas is well-educated and I'm sure he knows the dictionary definition of incredible is "impossible to believe". Something which many of us feel about a lot of what Ashford says.
    8 points
  35. If you are more affronted by a bit of bawdy humour than what has been revealed, then your reason has flown out of the window. Chris Thomas has summed it up nicely, but diplomatically. DA does need to reflect, take responsibility and look at the reality of what has gone on and the potentially disastrous implications for healthcare on the island. He wasn't suddenly thrust into a position of leading healthcare at the start of the pandemic, he had been there for a full two years. Plenty of time to get to know his department and the personalities within it.
    8 points
  36. Can we add the treatment of the abbotswood staff to that list?
    8 points
  37. Thanks Ian. Yes, I think people know that you’ve massaged passenger numbers by buying all those minibuses and counting the students, old folk, disabled etc who used to be moved around, quite efficiently, by different organisations, in your numbers. But the fact remains, that you are very widely regarded as an arrogant and manipulative bully, and a generally unpleasant chap, all round. One of the problems which I suspect Alf Cannan is trying to address, is that senior posts in IOMG need to be held by more, shall we say ‘rounded’ individuals. People who are good at their job, but also have the wider skills to build effective relationships with, and generate respect from, all people, colleagues and stakeholders that they interact with. If you look in the mirror, I don’t think you’ll see someone who has achieved that.
    7 points
  38. The concerning part of all this is that we knew this was going on from all of the PAC meetings, but it took Dr Ransons tribunal into shaming government to act. Would they have acted if the tribunal findings were not public?
    7 points
  39. Let's not forget this is the man who thought the DOI management were doing an excellent job; then subsequently went off in a huff when Cannan didn't reward with the DoI ministership.
    7 points
  40. I’ve just listened to it. The gall of that man. The toadying. Not one word of contrition, of responsibility Blaming others, blaming the system, blaming outsiders. He even managed to squeeze in a list of his achievements Sheesh
    7 points
  41. Strange that. I’ve done a lot of cruising and I’ve never been picked up by a bus anywhere else in the world. Usually it’s a luxury coach with a high floor so you can see the scenery. The exact type of vehicle that doesn’t seem to be able to operate in the IOM for some made up reason. This is just a made up load of rubbish. Honestly Tim Crookall why do you allow these people to just talk out of their arses to justify their own incompetence.
    7 points
  42. Did you do that on purpose? Please say yes.
    7 points
  43. Yes and I'm sure that the many hundreds of tourists who come over every week (yes really, proper tourists not anoraks) would quite happily pay to see them in a museum rather than ride them ... not. A far better solution would be to encourage more volunteers instead of paid staff, it works for all the other preservation railways across but not here as the Govt. likes to be a control freak.
    7 points
  44. F@ck Off, Bastard!
    7 points
  45. I've no time for this arguing, I'm off down to the city centre to score some whores and drugs!
    7 points
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