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  1. The issue is that there is a polarization of views with the mainly well off older population wanting more restrictions and the younger, more disadvantaged population wanting less restrictions. The more severe the restrictions the more jobs are lost and most of those losing jobs are the ones who can’t work from home mainly younger poorly paid workers. If a widely available vaccine is not ready until mid 2021 or later then eventually all economies will have to open up and tell vulnerable to shield otherwise there will be no economy left to pay for health, education , pensions etc
    9 points
  2. The issues related to current border restrictions in the Isle of Man as compared to its Covid-nemesis Jersey have already been eviscerate with such comprehensive detail in this thread that there isn’t much that comes to my mind that hasn’t been said already. Nonetheless, I wish to point out that Jersey’s border policy is sustainable in the longer term, ours isn’t. Among the cacophony of Covid restrictions and lockdowns, revised and updated on a daily basis in the main island of our archipelago (quite ridiculously); here are two focal points of a factually-based perspective: 1) Covid
    9 points
  3. I don't think there's a good answer for the UK. As a rule of thumb, the brits are too individualistic these days to be able to wear a mask for anyone but themselves. Even the 'don't kill your gran' messaging isn't particularly effective at this point. A lot of compliance to arbitrary 'covid secure' rules just isn't happening. Here, the fact that Doris in Castletown knows if you fart up in Andreas is working reasonably well to maintain a sense of community responsibility. People in England especially understandably have no faith in the restrictions as everything else has been so lackadaisi
    9 points
  4. I’ve read it. The whole article has a very off-putting, conspiratorial, flat-earth, climate-change-denying style. Whereas some of what he writes has merit - T-cell immunity, lower IFR etc - he’s definitely skewing the figures to suit his own ‘SAGE are all incompetent’ agenda. The reality is that the second wave is coming - at least in the NW. ITU beds filling up, something like 600+ covid cases admitted to Liverpool hospitals right now, they’re on the verge of cancelling elective work, and we’re having to come up with contingency plans for how to deal with non-covid stuff here that o
    9 points
  5. My daily commute. At least 25 now since, by my reckoning going on Police/news reports and obvious incident marks on roads and verges. Including one which was almost a head on into me at Brandywell two weeks ago. The dicks need protecting from themselves, they're not fit to be on the roads. And everybody else needs protecting from the dicks.
    8 points
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  7. Here or across? Here we’ve got it pretty good. It is difficult for some not being able to freely travel, but it would be worse if we started filling up Noble’s with covid cases, and shutting down businesses again. For the time being I don’t think there’s much else to be done over here. In the UK I’m torn between the circuit-breaker idea, and just thinking they may as well crack-on. All the half-arsed measures over the past few months have got them where exactly? The paddle-free brown smelly river, that’s where. Adopt the Swedish model and go for herd immunity, but expect a deadl
    8 points
  8. Or they are a totalitarian coercive society where the state acts wearing size 15 jackboots in its lock down.
    8 points
  9. We were talking in general, but yes I agree we have been fortunate and as someone who has spent a great deal of time across in the past 6 months we don't realise how good we have had it here. The general atmosphere and interactions going about your day to day life in the UK isn't pleasant and will undoubtedly get worse. I hope we can maintain our current situation on the island.
    8 points
  10. The dog has a very good union.
    7 points
  11. Yes I'm kind of getting that impression of you.
    7 points
  12. I didn’t take offence, and certainly didn’t attribute the interpretation put on by @Gladysalthough I’m appreciative of her efforts on my behalf. The thing is that most of us aren’t at the extremes of total border closure or that Covid is a hoax. Its finding the common ground that’s reasonable and offers sufficient public health protection, based on real risk assessment and science. It’s also keeping it up to date. What happened in March, April, May was in the dark, with little scientific basis, because it was so new. The problem is that it didn’t protect one nursing/care home.
    7 points
  13. I think that demographics and population density has a large bearing. It could be argued that given the UK’s densely populated cities it’s done pretty well with it’s lockdown strategy to match Sweden’s death rate. Or that Sweden, given it’s one major city and inbuilt natural advantage has done really badly to end up almost as bad as the UK. I’m coming to the conclusion that Sweden were wrong in the first wave to not lockdown, and UK were right, but too late (a bit). For the second helping however the Swedish way is right. There is more testing now, and better treatment. My UK contacts tel
    7 points
  14. Alex Brindley is worth the £850,000 alone. Love his jokes.
    7 points
  15. A sample of 6 does not have sufficient statistical power on which to base conclusions for the population as a whole. Your question 'How is this' can only indicate that you are trolling, as others keep pointing out, or you are completely clueless as to risk/probability/stats etc, as others keep pointing out. Or both perhaps.
    7 points
  16. I'm not sure you do either PK. Scrapping the day 7 test does not reduce the risk of infection from 6% to 1%. It simply means that if a returning traveller is covid positive, there is a 94% hit rate for testing at day 7 (compared with 99% at day 14). The 6% (of the about to be positives, of which there may be 1 in 400ish returnees) would be able to go to the shops for essential items and out for a walk. The risk of that very small number spreading their covid would be tiny. It's a marginal gain, not the 6-fold reduction you make it out to be.
    7 points
  17. It's important to get information from a variety of sources, especially when everyone has an agenda. You can't just dismiss things because of where they're published. Thanks to the posters for putting it up.
    7 points
  18. I'm pretty sure my son will. I'd imagine most if not all returning students are coming back to their parents - would they not be ensuring compliance, for fear of jail/criminal record?
    6 points
  19. Credit to Guernsey, they announced the case in a clear restrained press release. Our CM would have called another vainglorious press conference to ramp up the public concern.
    6 points
  20. At one time the Grand Island was the best hotel on the island . The reason that it fell into disrepair was calculated neglect , as were a couple of other hotels in Douglas/Onchan. It's not unusual for those only interested in making money ( helped by shysters ,in the legal profession and politicians) to buy an iconic building and encourage it's dereliction and subsequent vandalism ( "sorry to hear about the fire" ........ "shhhhh that's next week") in order that the place resembles such an eyesore that the powers that be are persuaded to allow it's destruction and redevelopment.
    6 points
  21. I have to disagree on health, routine treatment and consultations were suspended including cancer screening. When the reluctance of people to go to hospital with emergencies, stroke, heart attack etc. became known at ministerial level there was a campaign to persuade people to go to hospital, even though many feared going into, what was considered, a virus infested environment. That was all a result of lockdown and the fear instilled in people. The economic impact was that, generally, many people weren't earning at the same level (this really hits at the lower earning), so couldn't spe
    6 points
  22. In past motoring history matters; People argued against compulsory seat belt fitting and wearing. People argued against drink driving limits and subsequent reductions People argued against compulsory crash helmets for motorcyclists People argued against compulsory emissions equipment and regulations on vehicles People argued against minimum tyre tread depth and tyre condition regulations People probably argued against the imposition of 20, 30, 40, 50 and 70mph speed limits in the UK too. People argued about the imposition of most things to do with motoring
    6 points
  23. There have been more accidents on the mountain road since Howard proudly announced the end of the temporary speed limit. Go figure. It was like lowering the start flag. This phrase 'lack of talent' is really working too isn't it. All it does is raise the game. FFS stop using it. Can't you see that the boy racers are trying to measure themselves against it...
    6 points
  24. A person can have an opinion be it critical or whatever without having to stand as a candidate to validate any opinion ! I don't think half the political representation we have on the island is suitable to be in those positions but as I said earlier neither do I consider myself suitable either !
    6 points
  25. Correct. A good radio programme involves the presenter addressing (as it were) each listener as an individual, whereas these double-handers create a conversation between the presenters, of which we are ‘external’ listeners. They’re addressing each other, not us. Their conversation needs to be damn good if we are to feel engaged. At times the Mel and Alan thing works on Radio 2, but even then they wander off into riffs between themselves quite often. Two presenters, much of the time, fails.
    6 points
  26. If a law causes more harm than good, it should be changed.
    6 points
  27. This here. It amazes me the amount of people I see calling for tighter restrictions to save lives but in the next breath are quite happy to see people being thrown on the scrapheap and that won't have an impact on them, as if money just magically grows on trees.
    6 points
  28. There's a lot of rumours floating around today. Press conference later, hope there's no going to be an overreaction. The removal of the 7 day test option was already a backward step, lets not have another.
    6 points
  29. You're usually pretty spot on with your comments on here Cambon but on this you're wrong. It's been proven by many scientific studies now that lockdowns have little impact and indeed even the WHO has come out against them recently. We need to stop viewing 'health' with the blinkers on. Covid isn't the only show in town; mental health is off the charts, suicide is up massively, cancer patients are dying horrible, preventable deaths in their own beds not being able to access treatments which otherwise could have helped them beat it. Lockdowns are another excuse to put everything else
    6 points
  30. I'm tempted to use the 'confused' emoji myself for that one! I think PK you ought to try and appreciate that some decisions have to be made on a 'public health' basis, rather than an 'individual health' basis. You can't have a zero probability target, unless you accept that you will inevitably fail.
    6 points
  31. @The Dog's Dangly Bits and @Holte End you've shitted this thread for too long. Put each other on ignore. Don’t respond to each other. One more childish personal insult exchange - you’re both gone. Moderators decision, final, no correspondence entered into,
    5 points
  32. It's not so much about the law but whether it's enforced or not. The drink-drive law was rigorously enforced and so was effective. Very few people take the risk now. Same with speed limits. Put a 60mph limit on the mountain, get some coppers up there, and hammer the first three boy racers and lunatics who abuse it. Five year ban, big fine, and prison for the worst abusers. It would be sorted within the first month.
    5 points
  33. The Chief Minister left the decision to the Chief Constable. If I am a bitter, miserable, moaning old git I certainly am not alone on this forum.
    5 points
  34. I don't work for Manx Radio. Never have. Never will. And gain nothing financially from it. It's a public service broadcaster. It'll cost money over and above the 600k or whatever it is a year that it raises in revenues. It caters for a wide range of broadcasting. It costs money. I dont think it's a massively wasteful business. It simply costs money to run it. Far better people involved now.
    5 points
  35. So Rich bloke doesn't want the Island's great unwashed cycling and walking through a small piece of his land...fancy that.
    5 points
  36. Here's the thing, when I get up in the morning I see a guy who has neither the breadth of education, nor the experience required in my opinion to be a politician. What is frightening, is we have a number of people here who get up in the morning look in the mirror and imagine they have all those qualities and more ! The island is a wonderful place but very poorly governed by people who frankly don't have anything to offer except bluster !
    5 points
  37. Worth quoting - only time I think I've seen a post generate all 5 emoji reactions.
    5 points
  38. This is probably right. Bit like the old joke "Can you give me directions to Dublin? A - Well if I were you I wouldn't start from here!" If we were to get community transmission here, knowing what we do now, with enough testing capability that we have, we could manage the situation without a full lockdown and get on with things with minimal interference I think. But that's because we're starting from nothing. In the UK, where places like Liverpool are probably at about 1 in 100 currently positive, it's simply not possible. I think over there they need a reset with a lockdown before st
    5 points
  39. It's a public service broadcaster. It isn't ever going to run at a profit. Like the BBC won't. It's actually not badly managed either. Pugh's replacement is doing fine. One of the more poisonous senior employees has also gone. I'm more concerned about chucking 7m at silt removal in Peel just for it to build back up again whilst the marina itself produces a fraction of that in revenue.
    5 points
  40. It wasn't. It was the newish plastic course map that went missing. The old wooden one remained in place. It would not have been too difficult to make a new plastic route map that was identical to the missing plastic route map. Why on earth anyone would want to put a fairly recent plastic route map in a museum is beyond my comprehension.
    5 points
  41. I got a shock this morning. I had to listen to the morning show, the bit that used to be Morning Mandate, and amongst the crap music (it's all crap to many of us that time of day) a chap called John Moss came on and gave a bit of a brief about what happened in the House of Keys yesterday. I realize that the sittings have just started after the summer break, but it was most peculiar to hear someone talking at least semi-seriously amongst all the TV chit chat and playing their bangers. Anyway, there was no real in-depth coverage, just a focus when the House of Keys were having a guffaw, bu
    5 points
  42. Well that's that settled. I'll hear no more of it.
    5 points
  43. This topic seems to be the new "flat earth" thread. Same people day in day out shouting at the mirror...
    5 points
  44. I shouldn't need to explain. You've been alive during this pandemic yeah? If you don't know where something is you can't track it. It's just common sense. Why did everything go so nuts earlier in the year? Oh, because of wild uncontrolled and largely asymptomatic spread. At that point not that much was known about the virus, you could say the amount of people who ended up in hospital was a surprise, but now, 6 months on allowing it to happen again would be insane. It's like you've learnt nothing during that time and starting again. The argument being 'protect the vulnerable, let everyone else
    5 points
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