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  1. Tonight’s briefing will be as follows:- 1. I hope everyone had a nice weekend, I enjoyed visiting my parents and sitting in a deck chair 2. David for stats 3. dr ewart talks about a graph 4. Something about baby steps and remaining vigilent 5. education minister will be back on Thursday to give us an update on schools 6. respect those working in garden centres 7. council of ministers meeting on Thursday 8. Questions from a journalist...looks for clarification on something un important....something about guernsey air bridge Something about
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  2. She agreed to be paid as bank staff because that worked out to be the easiest and quickest way to organise things and to pay her in the middle of a crisis. But she wasn't exactly able to pick her own hours because of that crisis - she was having to work all possible hours just to keep things going. Effectively they were getting a full time professional contractor at much lower bank rates. Once the crisis lessened during the Summer, she obviously wanted to regularise things and to put the Path Lab Covid testing on a more professional basis, less dependent on her personally and the equipm
    17 points
  3. Nope, just me wondering how much of this is indexed by Google. If it stays, it stays. I'm not in the habit of telling anything less than the truth (for better or worse, thank my aspie side for that) so while I might be overly truthful there's not much I can do about people who disbelieve it. It's because I said I had been working 100 hours per week between DHSC and my own company, at a point where the company was in exponential growth. In DA's world that means it must be beaten in order to state the special nature of DHSC staff compared to the rest of us plebs. 120 hour weeks are
    16 points
  4. is this available in hard back ?
    16 points
  5. They’re looking for CoMin sense, not common sense
    14 points
  6. To be fair, the thread was created long before the PAC hearing, and I don't think RG objected to it before. I am a genuine supporter of RG, but you cannot expect something as explosive as what appears to have been going on not to be commented on. Whether her name is in the title is also irrelevant, it would be mentioned in the thread, so I am not sure where the issue is. I will say it again, from what we have seen, I support RG and wait to hear the rebuttal. BTW, that was supposed to be issued before the end of this week, that is today.
    14 points
  7. Since they did away with the cop-shop in the village this type of behaviour has increased. Not having a bobby on the street results in this kind of shit. I've said it before and I'll say it again.... when a bobby is doing his rounds he picks up info about what's going on and who's likely to be involved.
    14 points
  8. Yes I did it by listening to what she said. An unknown skill in Manx Government circles it appears.
    14 points
  9. Agreed! The problem with their myopic penny-pinching strategies is that they may achieve short term goals, but in the longer term they will always generate false economies. This government seems to be totally at ease when it comes to the spiralling costs of large capital projects (like the Liverpool Docks project), but unable to bring themselves to spend comparatively small amounts of money on vital health related programmes like random Covid testing of residents and mandatory testing of all visitors. IMHO, collectively, they lack perspective. The lockdowns we have had were always going to cos
    13 points
  10. I'd be wary of engaging with this weasel if i were you
    13 points
  11. With what we have paid you and the guy pretending to be a half wit to come shill on here, we could have bought this software licence 5 times over with donkey kong probably thrown in.
    13 points
  12. What is surprising is that DA and HQ seem totally unprepared to respond to the evidence given by RG. Surely they had half a clue and would have been ready with a rebuttal in pretty short order after the PAC hearing? Presumably, they are aware of the correspondence, including the letters before action, and would have already determined what their response would be. HQ distancing himself, and DA saying he gave everyone the weekend off. They must have known well before last Thursday what their position is on every point made, surely? If they were confident and firm in their posi
    13 points
  13. For a while the IOMG pretended that it was leading the world in how to effectively manage Covid. No more! They left the proverbial back door, the SPC, well and truly open and unsupervised. Consequently, Covid slipped silently past their defences, back into our lives and sent us back into lockdown.
    12 points
  14. which we should have been doing right from the fucking start
    12 points
  15. Baby steps often involve a full nappy too.
    12 points
  16. They’re still weighing up which of the 5 different versions scripted by the Cabinet Office Fantasy Unit to actually use.
    12 points
  17. "The chief minister says he’s reluctant to get involved in the ongoing row between the government and the scientist who set up Covid-19 testing on the Island". HQ's response to the question from PM is laughable. Covid is the biggest challenge this Island has faced in decades. Dr Glover was showing the Island an intelligent way through this crisis. HQ as the CM is supposed to be in charge of the government. The buck must stop with him, and he is trying to weasel his way out of it. This is another example why HQ should never have been 'appointed' as the CM. As a leader he should be taking r
    12 points
  18. I’m just wondering if you have listened to the entire three hours of evidence. You may find a lot of answers to your questions therein. This is not about money, or recognition, or kudos, this is about someone legally calling the government out on their bullshit and duplicity. There are still altruistic people out there you know. People who do brave, good and true things to attempt to uncover bad practice. They have no agenda other than the truth. it’s a bit of old fashioned idea to some, but I promise you it still exists.
    12 points
  19. It's irrelevant whether he has met her, what is relevant is the evidence given of funny goings on in his government.
    12 points
  20. or the sort of letter shredding antics that sound like a script from Father Ted
    11 points
  21. Prince Philip, inadvertent father of the Computer Misuse Act, dies aged 99 • The Register Many years before, the Queen Mum had welcomed Prince Philip into the family by dubbing him "The Hun" while other courtiers called him "Charlie Kraut" or "Phil the Greek". Even saintly Princess Diana reportedly referred to him as "Stavros", although not to his face as his response might have been robust. He was sailing off the Isle of Wight one year when the skipper of another boat shouted: "Oi! Out of the way, Stavros!" Philip yelled back: "It's not Stavros, and it's my wife's fucking water so I'll d
    11 points
  22. Yes indeed. He’s thick but he ain’t THAT thick. Besides, the Cabinet Officer Fantasy Unit are still coaching him on the reasons why the new Liverpool passenger shed is actually costing more than the Apollo space programme.
    11 points
  23. I once tried to confirm my ID at the post office by showing them a copy of his autobiography. They didn’t accept it for some reason. Probably racists.
    11 points
  24. I think all this is pretty simple and pretty basic. Dr Glover wasn't happy with DHSC procedures and interactions and because she had no monetary reliance upon it she took to Twitter to vent and started tagging journalists. This then resulted in questions being asked at briefings of the big cheeses and they didn't like it, it spoiled their basking in success. So instead of acting professionally and taking the high ground and getting it sorted behind the scenes they engaged in really petty and poorly executed statements in response. The rest of it is just noise and back and forths
    11 points
  25. Dear god, can you really compare the two. Er, on second thoughts, don't answer that... Hitchens once described Icke's outpourings and conspiracy theories in general as, "the exhaust fumes of democracy." After describing MF as a, "cesspit" it's you who needs to think about your own credibility...
    10 points
  26. It's called taking the piss. They've had month's to assemble a crack team of experts. The rest of the UK and the Crown Dependants are opening up. We're putting together a group to talk about it - ffs man. ... and you're 'The Voice of Reason'.
    10 points
  27. Travelling for a pussy is always worth it, ask jet ski man
    10 points
  28. The question our Government need to answer will be, given the U.K. is opening up to Europe May 17, the Channel Islands to the U.K. from April 26, our vaccination programmes are at similar stages, our infection rates will likely be zero, our hospital admissions likely at zero, our at risk groups all vaccinated, infection, hospital admissions & death rates all tumbling across the U.K. ..... what gives them the right, should I say where is the data to justify keeping us all locked away? ..... and more worryingly, who the hell is providing it? I mean, isn’t the advice given to the IOM the
    10 points
  29. One of the many irritating things about modern politics/journalism is that people insist on using 'refute' when they actually mean 'deny'. Still I'm sure that the refutation will come along once those Stakhanovite 'officers' return to their desks. What terribly bad timing for David to have given them their first hours off at this crucial time.
    10 points
  30. Its the obsession with social media that has led them here. HQ and DA frequently refer to it and now these clowns have felt the need to tweet a photo of a meeting. How about they all forget about Karen on facebook and just get on with their real jobs.
    10 points
  31. Seems to be two sides to his own story - I’ve met her / I’ve never met her. ETA Also the DHSC. She wasn’t an employee. It’s our code because she wrote it while an employee.
    10 points
  32. 10 points
  33. We don't need a President of Tynwald. We never did in the first place. It was Charlie Kerruish who decided he should be President of Tynwald and so it came to pass. Back-slaps and drinks all round. Lovely pension at the end of it all too...
    10 points
  34. Well only in so far as all cases contracted by Steam Packet staff seem to have been classified as 'travel-related'. Certainly the index case was. Which in a sense they are, but not in the way that those words are normally used - ie returning travellers. By the same logic all cases on the Island are travel-related. Just as they are China-related or bat-related. Government communications have used the phrase as a way of avoiding responsibility. Now unless you're going to ban all travel to the Island, passenger and freight, there is always going to be some risk from and to transpor
    9 points
  35. Worst syrup in the history of rugs. As obvious as the bollocks on a bulldog.
    9 points
  36. It’s written in the style of one of those ticker-tape machines that crop up in old b&w war movies.... ‘Bismarck on horizon...’ ‘Hood engaging...’ ‘Much smoke...’ ‘Hood’s blown up...’ ’Jet Ski man’s girlfriend sighted...’ ’Huge tits...’ ’Coppers’ nabbed her...’
    9 points
  37. We refute Dr Glover's claims All other contentions from both parties aside, I find this particular assertion from Ashford somewhat difficult to believe. ’I have granted the relevant officers who need to be involved in the timeline a week off over Easter. They have been doing in some cases 17-hour days, seven days a week without a break for 12 months'
    9 points
  38. I'm beginning to think there is no plan. The whole point of the restrictions and lockdowns were to stop the hospital being overwhelmed. Here we are with 1 person in hospital (who may or may not be in being treated for covid) which has been the case for the last 5 days. 60% of the adult population with a vaccine, the most at risk groups vaccinated and we have to wait another week for our kids to go back to school and no doubt even longer than that for hospitality to open.
    9 points
  39. Sultan, and a dozen other banned iterations. The bans come because of his aggression, insults, personal attacks which make a mockery of freedom of speech.
    9 points
  40. Do you know what? I joined this forum because I thought the slant on some of the stuff being said in this thread was wrong and I had a view. Not to slug it out with someone who clearly has the IQ of a pencil. You do understand the legal separation between a person who has a contract for services with an entity and intellectual property owned by another company a person works for? Just because you pay a person for services does not mean that you can use all the stuff they own in the world for free. It appears she tried to sort the situation out politely and for whatever reason they didn’t want
    9 points
  41. I am back in the isle; running in the glens and windy moorlands of its landscape. Not much else to do in my free time, thanks to… you know. The return journey was much less adventurous than the outbound odyssey of early January; an evening flight from Vienna to Heathrow (rescheduled two times), an overnight bus to Lancaster, a bus to Heysham, and the afternoon boat. – I had lost touch with this thread; and thus I skimmed a bit through the last few months to see what I have missed. Here I have got some legal cookies for John Wright. And useful information for anyone who might be planning a
    9 points
  42. It’s almost as if HQ, DA and their advisers aren’t terribly good at managing things isn’t it. Remarkable.
    9 points
  43. She sounds like she wants fairness and justice and also clear boundaries about what she has created and what others my use with her permission. That's all. Never once have I heard her sound angry. Resilient and determined to protect her homeland from buffoons who are out of their depth I grant you but I can live with that. Not that I have a view either way of course.
    9 points
  44. The worrying thing is that our government thinks that destroying evidence is acceptable, we should just accept their word without question. Letters to Ministers, now taped conversations. There are other previous cases of this kind of thing when it doesn't suit them for a contrary piece of evidence to mysteriously disappear!
    8 points
  45. There won’t be a vote. We don’t allow revisionism by deletion to change history. If a formal complaint is made that legally justifies any editing we will of course comply. This was just a request to the parties not to go setting out their cases here if the matter is to go to litigation or criminal proceedings, and to the rest of us to be careful what you post.
    8 points
  46. The moderators have been chatting about the implications for MF of parties, either of them, to the threatened litigation between Dr Glover and DHSC setting out their positions here. @rachomicsand @Steve Doyle Given our experience of receiving letters from advocates, the AG, or even Mr Plod, and Deemsters being handy at criticising MF for alleged breaches of sub judice ( when the information they wanted kept quiet had been published on the courts web site ), we are naturally cautious. MF doesn’t have the absolute protection of evidence to the PAC, nor the deep pockets to defend
    8 points
  47. Ward 20 is available, or the old Mental Health unit. They could be repurposed fairly quickly. Isolation hospital.
    8 points
  48. I think you didn't listen to Dr Glover's evidence carefully enough. She made it quite clear that it was identifiably her code because it contained her own comments. And that it was provably her code because dated copies exist on GitHub that preceded anything that DHSC could have written. You might claim that two different programmers might produce an identical 100 lines of coding to do the same thing (though legal precedent is not encouraging) but comments are very specific to the writer. Of course if "they already had their own coding" then they could have just reinstated or rewritte
    8 points
  49. I believe chicken innards thrown against a wall at midnight, could be useful.
    8 points
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