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  1. fixed scotland only take Not. A. Clue.
  2. If the oil price shock of the last year hasn't shown Salmond the folly of independence then nothing ever will. Luckiest man because he lost the referendum. Do people really comment on politics with this level of ignorance? Well for starters, most of Scotland wants an SNP/Labour alliance. Secondly if more than half the country voted open eyed for that, because it is clearly what is on the table, compared to the unthinkable vision of the Libs getting into bed with thw Toried as happened in 2010, then it's a far more legitimate governemtn than we've had for the last 5 years. You'll have to explian why the Oil price drop will have shown Sturgeon the folly of independence though, even I cant align that one? What level of ignorance? Looks like it flew straight over your head to me. I'll give you a clue. How would they finance independence give the hobbling of the oil industry in the last year? Extremely lucky Mr Salmond. They talk a good game about spending other people's money and that's about it. There is more to reality than what "most of Scotland wants" I am afraid. In fact the coalition government has done pretty well considering the crock of shit left for it by Labour in 2010. What was the note they left in the Treasury? "Sorry, the money's all gone." or something along those lines. Well there'd be this^ Scotland is a wealthier country than the UK, we contribute, not take, from the balance sheet. And "they" wouldn't be financing anything, independence wouldn't have come for two years while the various issues required to divide the countries assets were ironed out.
  3. If the oil price shock of the last year hasn't shown Salmond the folly of independence then nothing ever will. Luckiest man because he lost the referendum. Do people really comment on politics with this level of ignorance? Well for starters, most of Scotland wants an SNP/Labour alliance. Secondly if more than half the country voted open eyed for that, because it is clearly what is on the table, compared to the unthinkable vision of the Libs getting into bed with thw Toried as happened in 2010, then it's a far more legitimate governemtn than we've had for the last 5 years. You'll have to explian why the Oil price drop will have shown Sturgeon the folly of independence though, even I cant align that one?
  4. why? not a chance, the scotland vote does not matter, snp didn't get many more votes than the tories at the last election tories/lib/ukip i would guess will be the outcome Hello? 2015 is calling. The SNP will be the third party at Westminster, almost certainly enough to keep the tories out.
  5. maybe they will, but the SNP will never ever do any deal of any description with them.
  6. I dinna ken fit yer spikkin aboot, bit it's gye likely it's a hillock of sharn
  7. A real strawman there. Your points on a second language are excellent of course, and all the more relevant if instead of just being "a good work out" it was actually of practical use too, like say French, or Spanish, or Mandarin.
  8. But it is used. I know a lot of people who read in Manx all the time.Some speak it to each other daily. Many more use Manx in conversation when they meet up. And many know enough of Manx to give them their sense of place and belonging to the Island. So people who all speak English, have a second language that they can then close out a number of others from, rather than expanding the number of people they could communicate with? Sounds useful like.
  9. Did you mean relevant or irrelevant? I'm interested to know why you think are the relevant things to study and why.If you wonder why I am asking it is because you are not presenting much to back up your argument. I mean, the sciences could be said to be irrelevant to most people in their day-to-day life, so do we chuck away chemistry, biology, and physics except for those who want to embark on it later in secondary school for possibility of working in those fields? What about history and geography? I mean relevant, it's what I said, is English not your first language? The ability to speak a common language helps (or would if they could) most people at some point in their life, even if it's just travelling rather than in work/business. Even just a smattering can get you miles further than the English way of just speaking slowly and loudly.
  10. How so? I don't think it is. And thoughI said that Manx is useful for giving people a sense of place and allowing for a distinct national identity, I am not necessarily saying that Manx should be taught to create any devotion or loyalty to the Island. Rather, I think that one of its benefits is that it could help create a sense of belonging by connection with the past. So patriotism then? I agree with you there, having a sense of belonging and pride in your country is great, and helps preserve tradition and history, language however is a major exception.
  11. Patriotism is admirable, but language is one of the few areas that imo that admiration should stop. Of all the things you learn at school, languages are the most relevant in day to day life thereafter. Learning an insular language that nobody uses that doesn't already have English as their first language is wasteful. As spook says, learn it, keep it alive, but it should be a hobby, and not time wasted during school hours.
  12. I'm not Manx, but I agree with AT. It's been a while since I lived there, but I didnt come across a manxie who was anti-TT in my time there. I did come across plenty of comeovers who moaned about the roads and the noise, and the bikers, a bit like T_J just did. From my experience, it was annoying getting to work, but on the other side the island had a buzz about it for a week at least, and there was 'stuf'', loads of stuff to do and see that you didnt get most of the year. And you know what, if you really didnt like it, give your house up for the week/fortnight, and effectively get a free holiday abroad while the TT is on. I know everywhere has moaners even about the most positive of things, and everywhere has anti-sport bores, but really, living on the IoM and complaining about the bike racing? Get a grip.
  13. It's person specific, but a general rule of thumb is a standard 4% pint will put you over and a half pint will probably be ok.
  14. As an SNP Voter/Member............. ...can I just say this, this, this, and this again!!!! The utter pish we've been subjected to here about the "evils of drink driving", aye, ok, fair enough, so now the evil is guys who have a pint and a half, is it? You can no longer stop on your way home for a swift pint because that will put you over the limit. What a load of horse. All this does is criminalise that small percentage of folk who were previously fine, and still would be in Carlisle, but now become a "drunk Driver" if they're in Gretna. The guy who has 8 pints and drives, is he now going to think - 'oh wait, last week I would have been 6.5 pints over the limit and that was fine, but now I'll be 7.25 pints over the limit I'd better not drive' What a load of horse. Did I say that already?
  15. fatshaft

    UKIPT IoM 2

    David finished third in the end. Great result though I imagine he's gutted.
  16. fatshaft

    UKIPT IoM 2

    Those figures are tournament chips bees. In tournaments you pay an entry fee, and that cash is exchanged for a set number of chips, everyone plays till one player is left standing, and in this case the top 55 players all received some sort of payout. The winner gets around £65,000
  17. fatshaft

    UKIPT IoM 2

    Day three tomorrow, and decent smattering of locals still in the hunt http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/ukipt4-isle-of-man-2-start-of-day-3-seat.shtml
  18. It is of concern to anyone in a civilised society if a family can be left without a bread winner and no means of support other than a state handout. In civilized societies, women are allowed to work. Also in the western world, anyone with a family who doesnt have life insurance is a steaming idiot. Totally agree with jacko, losing a wife/husband/father/mother/daughter/son and immediately looking to sue someone for compensation is a highly distasteful american disease.
  19. I am not sure if you are deliberately being obtuse. The issue here isn't about simply disliking something. I dislike marmite, but my dislike isn't a moral issue. Whereas I can identify problems for society and And, if you had recognised the issues were are pointing out here, we are discussing the affect that promotion and advertising has on moral values. Positions on what is right and wrong with gambling and gambling change and are changing because of the role of companies and government in promoting them. We are arguing that this isn't a good thing. Ah sorry, I'd failed to realise you were some super-being. Fair enough, you think something is immoral, therefore it is. Silly me.
  20. You're not trying to be? So you actually just are? Well thank you for the admission there
  21. Then it's little wonder your understanding of the problems with gambling is so weak. Alcohol poses many moral problems. Nope, it seems both you and LDV don't quite grasp that your dislike of something does not make it a moral issue for the general population. Social and health issues caused by alcohol, are not the same as moral issues.
  22. The UK has very widespread alcoholism in the population but clearly there is a big moral issue with drinking judging from people's recognition of the consequences and affect it has on society. How exactly do you tie those two together? I've seen very little evidence that people have a moral issue with alcohol. Certainly we are far more aware now of alcohol misuse both in terms of social issues and health, but morally, no idea where on earth you're coming from there.
  23. Again, your opinion. (Oh, this is easy). Same thing. Doesn't matter whether it is a moral position or not. It's all about opinion. Yes, that was my opinion of your posting. I'm glad you found it easy to understand that. It does matter whether it is a moral position or not, that is what we're disagreeing with here. You have claimed that it is morally wrong to advertise gambling. If you're now saying it's your opinion that advertsiing gambling is wrong, then fine. You have every right to think that, you're wrong, but you can think it. However society has deemed as the years go by that gambling is not morally wrong in most peoples eyes, and that is becoming a more universally held view as the years pass and people understand it better. However, you continue with the browbeating if you like, it's your modus operandi after all.
  24. This may be true, but this fact only reflects the ethics of this particular time and place. Morality is relativistic and subject to wide variation in time, place, and culture, and in view of this it can be challenged, rejected, re-thought; this is what much of this debate has been about. At certain times and places people were convinced that slavery was quite moral. We generally think differently today. Does this illustrate the point? Indeed, it more than makes the point. In our very recent history, gambling was conducted underground, in back streets, and with 'runners'. But some time after WWII we became much more enlightened and tolerant, and now most gambling takes place legally under a licensed entity of some sort, whether that be online or in the high street, or even your corner shop.
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