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  1. 19 hours ago, woolley said:

    That's exactly what I mean about total reorganisation. Rank bad management. Efficiency poor. Admin atrocious. Some at the coal face at their wit's end. Shocking mess.

    By the Tories. They're the ones who put in multiple layers of administrators & manager instead of funding nurses, doctors and facilities. 

  2. 11 minutes ago, mojomonkey said:

     

    Care in the community was brought in by the Tories, although you're right in pointing out that the subsequent Labour Government could have reversed it. In my opinion the NHS is screwed whoever the Government is, it is a good idea in theory but in practice attempts to do too much.

    Every country has a health service, they all have (or would cash depending) the same functions and requirements, more or less.

     

    The only reason the NHS is screwed is because the tories won't fund it, tho are happy to fund Trident. Priorities. Bad ones at that 

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  3. 1 hour ago, woolley said:

    . The so called rape clause is however stupid and should be (probably will be) scrapped. Just SNP mischief-making.

    Well first, it's not "so called", it's specific.

    Secondly, if it's going to be scrapped, then what I think you meant was, well done the SNP for leading the opposition to this, though there appears no sign whatsoever that it's going to be. 

     

  4. 19 minutes ago, Cambon said:

    But why would they do that? SNP and LD are anti Brexit. Labour are generally pro Soft Brexit.

     

    Don't swallow May's poisonous diversion. We've had our referendum, this is a general election, all UK parties except the risible and unelectable UKIP are to the left of the Tories, indeed it'd be fair to say in their current UKIP-light guise, way to the left of them. A rainbow alliance of anti-Tory is perfectly feasible. 

  5. 10 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

    But they do have the UKIP vote, leaning heavily on the "we're the Brexit party" angle.

     

    1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said:

    Also this relies on the other parties being allies, which I cant see happening.

    Yes but UKIP will get no MPs, they're a spent force. 

    The other parties don't need to be allies, or even have a coalition. Look at the first SNP administration at Holyrood, had a minority govt that ran well by working with every party at different times to get the job done. It's never been done at Westminster because it's never needed to be, but then there's never been such a split of parties. 

     

  6. 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said:

    Its quite simple...

    Any vote that isn't for Labour is a vote towards a Tory victory and Darth May getting to oversee the down fall of the country.

    Well no it isn't. The Tories have no allies, so for example 50 SNP + 25 LD + 250 Labour + 4PC + 1 Green = Tories out of #10

  7. 14 hours ago, wrighty said:

    I predict a labour wipe-out, which is why she's called the election. Most sitting labour MPs wouldn't want Corbyn as PM. UKIP votes to go to Tories, Lib dems to gain votes but probably not many seats. Tory gains from SNP in Scotland. 100 majority for May. 

    That does seem to be the assumption as allegedly the Mooth was pushing to bak her "popularity" in Scotland, yet the figures don;t show this "popularity".

    The Berwickshire seat may fall Tory, but equally likely is Fluffy loses Dumfries, and Murray loses to SNP as well. Could be 50 SNP seats (not all six going Tory either), could be 58/59. It's a hard one to call, but with over/under sitting at 50.5, bet your house on the over. 

  8. 15 hours ago, Declan said:

    The mass media have been against every Labour leader since Kier Hardy, it's not just something they've invented for Jeremy. This issue is he's not really challenging that perception, every few months he'll do an interview moaning about it and wander off. At least we knew what Kinnock and Milliband stood for, at least they challenged the Tories and the establishment from time to time, and had policies people (although not enough) could get behind. 

    There are people who see him a messiah, a new voice. But that's only because they are projecting their hopes onto a blank canvas. 

    Not really. When people read his policies (without knowing they're his) they have very high approval ratings. policy isn;t the issue, his weak leadership exacerbated and exaggerated by  the media is the problem here 

  9. 1 hour ago, Shake me up Judy said:

     

    Tories take seats from SNP in Scotland.

    Lib-Dems will make a huge comeback imo.

     

    Got to ask where you think these seats will come from though for the Tories? Berwickshire possibly with Kerr on a tiny majority, but Fluffy in big trouble in Tweedale should cancel that out. Where else? 

  10. good to see may stand up for her values and not cover her head, the requirement is for muslim women only, unlike the swedes who went full burka.....

    Yup, ranting on about Easter Eggs, but no comment on threatening to go to war with Spain, selling weapons to ISIS funders, staying schtum on Trump, this woman sure has her priorities right. Clueless hag.

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  11.  

    "snp force change to unenforceable report that may must respond to snp's unreasonable demands over eu"

     

    fact....

     

    You're boring everyone with this crap. The above is in fact untrue.

     

    What is true is that my earlier link from The National was 100% accurate. Fake News /= stuff you don't like.

     

    So, again...

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

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    But the report divided the cross-party committee, with some members saying it was too pessimistic about Brexit.

     

    Some MPs walked out of a private meeting of the committee as the report was being finalised

     

    .But they were outnumbered by Labour, Liberal Democrat, SNP and SDLP committee members, all of whom backed Remain in last year's referendum.

     

    Mr Whittingdale said he thought the report was "unduly negative" and had "very much concentrated on the problems without really recognising the opportunities" of Brexit.

     

    Mr Raab added: "The report was rushed, skewed and partisan. After two reports that had strong support, it's regrettable that this one split the committee.

    "That undermines its credibility and influence, but I hope and expect the committee will learn the right lessons as we move forward."

     

    facts...

     

     

    Yes, committee wasn't fully in agreement on some items, nevertheless, the report by The National, was word for word lifted from the parliamentary report, that is incontrovertibly a fact. That is what we're currently arguing about. A simple apology is fine and we can move on.

     

    "snp force change to unenforceable report that may must respond to snp's unreasonable demands over eu"

     

    fact....

     

     

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

     

    its fakenews thicko....

     

    Did The snp National report verbatim the words in that report?

     

    "snp force change to unenforceable report that may must respond to snp's unreasonable demands over eu"

     

    fact....

     

     

    That's your statement, not a quote.

     

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

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    But the report divided the cross-party committee, with some members saying it was too pessimistic about Brexit.

     

    Some MPs walked out of a private meeting of the committee as the report was being finalised

     

    .But they were outnumbered by Labour, Liberal Democrat, SNP and SDLP committee members, all of whom backed Remain in last year's referendum.

     

    Mr Whittingdale said he thought the report was "unduly negative" and had "very much concentrated on the problems without really recognising the opportunities" of Brexit.

     

    Mr Raab added: "The report was rushed, skewed and partisan. After two reports that had strong support, it's regrettable that this one split the committee.

    "That undermines its credibility and influence, but I hope and expect the committee will learn the right lessons as we move forward."

     

    facts...

     

     

    Yes, committee wasn't fully in agreement on some items, nevertheless, the report by The National, was word for word lifted from the parliamentary report, that is incontrovertibly a fact. That is what we're currently arguing about. A simple apology is fine and we can move on.

     

    "snp force change to unenforceable report that may must respond to snp's unreasonable demands over eu"

     

    fact....

     

     

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

     

    its fakenews thicko....

     

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

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    But the report divided the cross-party committee, with some members saying it was too pessimistic about Brexit.

     

    Some MPs walked out of a private meeting of the committee as the report was being finalised

     

    .But they were outnumbered by Labour, Liberal Democrat, SNP and SDLP committee members, all of whom backed Remain in last year's referendum.

     

    Mr Whittingdale said he thought the report was "unduly negative" and had "very much concentrated on the problems without really recognising the opportunities" of Brexit.

     

    Mr Raab added: "The report was rushed, skewed and partisan. After two reports that had strong support, it's regrettable that this one split the committee.

    "That undermines its credibility and influence, but I hope and expect the committee will learn the right lessons as we move forward."

     

    facts...

     

     

    Yes, committee wasn't fully in agreement on some items, nevertheless, the report by The National, was word for word lifted from the parliamentary report, that is incontrovertibly a fact. That is what we're currently arguing about. A simple apology is fine and we can move on.

     

    "snp force change to unenforceable report that may must respond to snp's unreasonable demands over eu"

     

    fact....

     

     

    Did The National report verbatim the words in that report?

  15.  

    But the report divided the cross-party committee, with some members saying it was too pessimistic about Brexit.

     

    Some MPs walked out of a private meeting of the committee as the report was being finalised

     

    .But they were outnumbered by Labour, Liberal Democrat, SNP and SDLP committee members, all of whom backed Remain in last year's referendum.

     

    Mr Whittingdale said he thought the report was "unduly negative" and had "very much concentrated on the problems without really recognising the opportunities" of Brexit.

     

    Mr Raab added: "The report was rushed, skewed and partisan. After two reports that had strong support, it's regrettable that this one split the committee.

    "That undermines its credibility and influence, but I hope and expect the committee will learn the right lessons as we move forward."

     

    facts...

     

     

    Yes, committee wasn't fully in agreement on some items, nevertheless, the report by The National, was word for word lifted from the parliamentary report, that is incontrovertibly a fact. That is what we're currently arguing about. A simple apology is fine and we can move on.

  16. report written by a pro eu mp, that has since been ripped to shreds and has no power

     

    try again scottard......

    So, to summarise, the official report from the Commons Select Committee, as written on the official parliament.uk website, and subsequently reported by The National verbatim, is as I said, in your mind "fake news" because it's not saying what you'd like it to say, despite it saying EXACTLY what is written on the parliament.uk website.

     

    Despite - in your own words - "not being reported anywhere else because it's fake news", apparently this official report from the Commons Select Committee, as written on the official parliament.uk website, has been "ripped to shreds"? Where? It's the official report, it can't be ripped to shreds, it is exactly what it claims to be.

     

    That's where we are now, correct?

  17. Whereas, the Yoon owned The National said

     

    And the Committee on Exiting the European Union appeared to confirm her criticism, saying: “We recommend that the UK Government respond formally to the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland legislatures regarding each of their options papers. It must do so as a matter of urgency, given that negotiations to leave the EU will start imminently.”

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