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Chinahand last won the day on June 24 2018

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  1. Well done, sadly I wasn't observant enough to get the bottom line right ... missed his new shoes first time round!
  2. Before people start quibbling about the ordering of operations the rules are very clear - remember bodmas.
  3. So, he talked about taking it on the chin, albeit as one option, but jees. Freggyragh - seriously you cannot for ideological reasons accept Boris would say and mean the second part of the quote and so obsess on the first. He is rejecting taking it on the chin, but rock on clinging to it.
  4. My opinion is unchanged since this post: In 6 weeks the UK has gone from being a liberal democratic market economy to having the state mandate the almost entire shut down of that economy with it introducing huge government support of basically the entire economy. The first cases in the UK was on the 29th of January - up until the 11th of January it wasn't even known if the virus could spread from person to person, rather requiring an animal vector from a wet market to spread it. Freggyragh says we ignored the Chinese warnings and Boris needed telling of by his dad. Read contemporary reporting from Hong Kong on this and a very different picture emerges: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3049403/coronavirus-did-boris-johnsons-dads-email-blunder-reveal-china Speaking at a briefing to journalists in London on Thursday, Liu said there was no issue regarding lines of communication with the British government. He said he had spoken to the prime minister at a new year celebration at Downing Street, and that British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab was in touch with his counterpart in Beijing. Britain confirmed a third case of the disease on Thursday and its Foreign Office said in a statement it had sent detailed instructions to its citizens still in China, advising them to “leave if you are able”. The statement said “it may become harder to access departure options” after airlines including British Airways and Virgin Atlantic suspended flights to and from mainland China. Liu said there was “frustration at the overreaction” of Britain’s travel advice, but he said that “there is no issue with regard to disappointment or displeasure with the government response” and that “the channel of communication on government level is very open, not just at the top level but on a working level”. China saw the UK response as an overreaction as flights were suspended to China. This was when there were less than 100 cases in the entire UK and no deaths until the 7th of March - it was on the 12th of March the government advised anyone with symptons to self isolate with the shut down beggining. Freggyragh wants to paint a picture of incompetence and denial, but the fact is the UK's response has been pragmatic, expert led and has changed as the evidence has advanced. I'm not going to say it was perfect - testing has failed to advance as needed and yes there were muddles over sharing ventilators wth the EU - since sorted out, but ideology has not trumped pragmatism, quite the opposite. Freggyragh's list is massively personalised and biased, and often factually wrong. I'm not going to be accused of bias for pointing that out.
  5. Goodness events really do move quickly: Quite a good timeline. https://bfpg.co.uk/2020/03/covid-19-timeline/ Two Chinese getting ill in a hotel in York seems a long time ago now. It was on January 29.
  6. No, he said “one of the theories is, that perhaps you could take it on the chin ... But I think it would be better if we take all the measures that we can now to stop the peak of the disease being as difficult for the NHS as it might be, I think there are things that we may be able to do.” Your blinding yourself in your hatred. https://fullfact.org/health/boris-johnson-coronavirus-this-morning/
  7. This article in Nature should put to rest all the silliness about the origins of SARS-Cov-2. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 Sadly it won’t.
  8. Evidence for that statement Freggragh?
  9. It is fascinating how conspiracy nutters latch on to minor bureaucratic issues which are irrelevant in the face of the practical management of the situation and try to use it to pretend ... well what? If it wasn’t tragic the claim this nutter makes about the situation in Italy would be laughable. The country’s daily death rate has increased by over 50% due to an outbreak in basically one region, Lombardy. Spain’s daily death rate is close to doubling. This isn’t flu and seasonal flu doesn’t look anything like this. It will take a huge societal effort to stop this disease killing multiple thousands of people. Without that effort it would be orders of magnitude higher. Quite why it has been reclassified isn’t clear to me. Maybe insurance companies, maybe something as bureaucratic as the legal powers used to fight it. But whatever the reason it doesn’t mean we all aren’t facing a medical emergency of such severity that it is rational to bring our economies and normal social interactions to an end to fight it. God I hate nutters.
  10. I do find it interesting that the left represented by the Grauniad and Independent are so ideologically blind they think Boris is the same as Trump. While the reality is that that the U.K. response and the US one have been totally different.
  11. Likely Insurance industry lobbying with no practical change in the medical management but likely consequences lurking in small print of insurance t&cs
  12. ... and if You'll Never Walk Alone is going to be the NHS's anthem maybe this early Pink Floyd song will become better known to:
  13. Chinahand

    Death & Dying

    Well, when something's got 100 years of usage behind it then changing it is difficult, but we all know covid-19 started in a wet market in Wuhan and will hopefully bring in improvements in hygienic practices and animal husbandry in China, but that knowledge can happily exist implicitly embedded in the name covid-19 rather than being explicit. I hadn't heard any other names other than coronavirus, covid-19 and SARS-Cov-2 prior to Trump mouthing off about the Chinese and suddenly a certain political mindset start using new Chinese based names ... go figure.
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