P.K.

And answer came there none. This "taking back control" and "sovereignty" was a central plank of the whole brexit nonsense and probably the one with the most falsehoods hung on it to get the required majority. Remember Nigel Farage claiming that 75% of UK law was made in Brussels? Well, the rabid right-wingers of the UK press, which is to say pretty much all of it, naturally fell in line behind this complete and utter fabrication. For example the Barclay brothers supported the idea wholeheartedly with this puff piece: "Two thirds of Britain's laws 'made or influenced by EU!' "Business for Britain says more power must given back to Parliament amid concerns that EU red tape is strangling companies" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11443085/Two-thirds-of-Britains-laws-made-or-influenced-by-EU.html Since the Maastricht Treaty up to 2014 the Sovereign Parliament of the UK passed 945 Acts of Law of which 231 implemented EU trading obligations. Over the same period the Sovereign Parliament of the UK passed 33,160 Statutory Instruments (secondary legislation) which also implemented 4,283 EU trading obligations. So out of a total of 34,105 pieces of legislation 4,514 were about adhering to EU trading regulations as a member of the bloc. That's not 75%. It's just 13%. It's not as if the UK was coerced into any this legislation either! So the "taking back control" of 75% of our legislation was just more brexit lies for the simple-minded. Before any brexiteers cry "foul!" the figures were produced by the HoC Library. "Taking back control" - you're having a laugh....! The more we get into the truth of what brexit actually involves the more the brexiteers' Unicorn comes across as a tired whitewashed old donkey with a dildo on it's head....

None of which has anything whatever to do with brexit. So you know better than a highly experienced international trade negotiator. So Woody2, how did you gain all that knowledge? You know, which international trade deals have you been instrumental in? Come on, don't be shy, it just doesn't become you....

Where's the romance in that? Shame on you.....

She is? Do you think she knows what caused it?

If Trump says it then it must be true....

Tony Martin deserved the sentence he was given. He only wounded one of them....

"and? Even if that is true it does not alter what I said. Rightly or wrongly the EU does not have a responsibility to actually do anything. The ball is firmly in the UK's court, what they do with it is up to them." You sound like David Davis. He was on the Beeb the other day dripping and moaning that after we give them the divorce payment they are not obliged to give us a deal or anything. The irony of what he was saying clearly escaped him to wit: THAT is the brexit YOU voted for you twat! Of course, the more he complained about it the sillier he looked. The EU are not obliged to give us anything. We opted to leave them, not the other way around. You reap what you sow.... I just pray there's a deal. When a highly experienced trade negotiator says that crashing out will be "catastrophic" for the UK I believe them. Because it will be....

I thought the above post was absolutely hilarious. It's brexiteer simple: "You can't polish a turd....."

Standard brexiteer response. Ignore uncomfortable truths and everything will be just fine. Never forget that if you stick your head in the sand eventually the Reality Bus slaps you up the arse. No doubt some on here would actually like that.... A brexiteer, of which there are lots on here but unfortunately they're all really busy atm, has yet to come up with any verifiable positives around exiting the EU. Apart from getting blue passports of course......

Get this thicko. UK farmers can't produce enough food to feed the UK. So we HAVE to import the shortfall. Jeeeeeeeze......

Bullshit. The IoM was used for a reason....

You haven't quite figured out all this trading and tariffs stuff yet have you?

Well, North Korea only trades with China but they're doing ok. Once in a while the crops fail and thousands starve to death but their parades still look good on the telly. Never mind because apparently outside the EU is the land of milk and honey. That's why the UK is leaving. It doesn't matter that our sovereign parliament has been formulating our own laws since we joined the EU or that we've continued to have border controls during that time as well. We're going to "take back control" of, errr, well, hmm, errr, well, something anyway..... I'm still waiting for a brexiteer to explain exactly what that bit means. But like the David Davis 28 FTA's "ready to go" it's all a great mystery. One thing you can be sure of is that every trading nation on the planet will be ready to do a trade deal with the UK but ON THEIR TERMS. Not ours. Because they all know we have fucked ourselves over. I just hope that the loony brexit fringe of the fractured tory party can be overcome and there's a deal.

I don't hate him at all. In fact, in the past I've made positive moves to meet him face to face. Although I can't help thinking that he would find it rather difficult. Because I'm not remotely how he likes to potray me on here. As those who know me IRL would attest to. I'm really looking forward to the Port Erin fireworks. Who else is headed there?

So no brexit positives then. Why am I not surprised. Keep sucking those lemons... Twat.