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  1. Can you explain this please? Is it your opinion? The UK is responsible for outside affairs, including, presumably, immigration control.
  2. Dragging you all back to the point, I have spoken to the DHSS, and they say there is no contingency plan for a single Psychiatric Unit, because they all vary and so do the paitents requiring their care. -So that's the "Status of mental healthcare" point done, too. On whose terms is it not good enough ? I'm afraid... it is not for you to say if it is good enough for the Manx police Force not to have a website. You're insane: It's a valid point. They're the only police service not to have done this. This stuff help's in the modern world. Or perhaps you think they should disconnect their phones as well, and make people go round personally when they need help? BTW, What do you know of immigration dentention facilities on the island? (By rights, there shouldn't be any.)
  3. Although I live in the UK, we have home improvement grants too, and I got my walls cavity insulated last month. They lagged the pipes and foamed the loft, too. Infact, the more they did, the more subsidy they got, so it's a win-win stituation. Mine was income-linked, but there are several schemes, so it pay's to ask around. If you do go for double-glazing, don't buy from Coldseal, because they don't pay their sellers (like me, in past times). There are alternatives to double-glazing, like film on the windows, a kind of extra window layer on the inside, and, er, bricking up some of the windows and putting in a light pipe.
  4. Did you know, there's more than one zero, because there's more than one infinity and more than one finity, so when you multiply an infinity by a zero, it depends on which infinity and which zero to produce which finity you end up with. Posting: It doesn't really matter: Everybody end's up reading it and getting something from it that way. And, eventually, someone has to be last. Getting no replies on forums has to be better than not being able to get a word in edgeways at public meetings (like happen's to me a lot of the time). And it's a lot less daunting here: No getting up in front of hundreds of people with only a notepad and a mic for company. Of course the flipside is spamposts from people too stupid to know when they've lost the argument, possibly most of these are bored teenagers.
  5. Thesis? That's not what most researchers are about. You write a thesis as part of a phD. I carry out research (although I do other things as well) for a voluntary group. Someone has to find out these things and put it online for other people to use. The Santon location was a red herring; perhaps something to do with Cummal Shee, certainly not White Hoe, which I now have accurate-enough info for, thank's to the DHSS (again). The original publishers for the rate of imprisonment info have removed it because it changed. They quote KCL (in contradiction), and clarify that the rates were the worse about two years ago. This is okay, since I am making a two year revision, so my last info was accurate two years ago, and now it's revised. If you want historical online info on that you'll have to write to KCL. However, it WAS the highest at that time, so why aren't you dancing in the streets about it coming down? If you don't know, you're poorer for it. This now leave's points outstanding as: Resolved; Exact Location of the new prison Exact Location of the old prison Location/Status of Leece Lodge Location of White Hoe Status of cat-o'-nine-tails sentencing Imprisonment rates "Prisoness" of Leece Lodge "Prisoness" of White Hoe Still posed or new; Status of mental healthcare Website of IOMC Mental healthcare is mostly-done, but will have to wait until my contacts are in again on monday. The Manx police don't have a website as far as I can tell. Only their Specials, which is really not good enough.
  6. I'm not going to let myself be dragged down to a level of petty name-calling, I'm simply collecting answers, and those from the greatest intersection of definitive sources, not the greatest number of incorrect protests. I think Chris Tarrant summerised this best: "Right now, there are thousands of people shouting the correct answer at their TV sets - but there are also thousands of people shouting the wrong answers at their TVs." I will not repeat myself on matters that have been settled. I have asked the DHSS, looked up library documents, searched the internet, asked Mona locals; you don't think I just relied on this thing, do you? What do you think I've been doing in the gaps?! You say it's a forum? You could have fooled me; I thought it was an automated slanging-match. I was in London being experimented upon as part of my job interview as a Phase I Drug Research Volunteer, which I passed. The post is in a privately-funded institute attached to King's College, which I seem to be being haunted by. (I didn't know it was part of King's College before I went there.) Can anyone post back a an altered URL with the arrow pointing to it: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G...=473045&A=Y&Z=3
  7. That report is dated 2005. Leece Lodge closed in 2002. The CPT never visited Leece Lodge, as far as I can tell. They still classified it, though. They only visit a representative selection of prisons; there must be at least 8,000 prisons in Europe.
  8. Sorry I haven't posted in a while, I was in London being experimented upon. In the questions of "prisoness", the CPT classify both Leece Lodge and White Hoe as places of detention of children, a type of prison. They further describe these as being intended for children deprived of their liberty: http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/gbr/2005-...tm#_Toc62375365 The CPT inspect prisons in countries that have adopted the European Convention of Human Rights. The host countries' definition is used, and acceptance is required. It's a two-way agreement that those institutions are prisons, and the CPT do not visit other types of institutions. Additionally, the Manx Government make's clear the difference between care homes, foster homes, and other residential homes, and the prisons. Children and Young Persons Act 2001, Section 50.4: http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/infocentre/acts/cypa2001.pdf Furthermore, numerous documents relating to the deaths in Leece Lodge refer to children there being transferred to/from other child prisons in the UK. These UK institutions all admit to being prisons, and are members of SAN (Secure Accommodation Network). I have communicated with some of them, and the chair of SAN, and there is no dispute in this. As far as I am concerned, this settles both the "prisoness" points. - - - I think the best thing, with regard to older non-operational prisons, is for me to link to a Manx history site, and ask that site's author to fill in the gaps raised here. http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/gazateer/prisons.htm
  9. http://www.corpun.com/imjur1.htm#birchpic Under heading "COURT INFORMATION", third paragraph:
  10. There was no debris at that hotel in France where the Concord crashed. (Photos look like a field.) Large heavy objects crashing at high speed release enormous amounts of energy. Enough to make a solid-looking plane or building behave like a fluid.
  11. Is/Was this where the pump wheel is? The only other prisons I have heard of on the island are past ones: The borstal, and the WWI and WWII internment camps.
  12. TheTool: At last! Someone finally understood the paragraph. Ithink. Anyway, to expand on that, being whipped voluntarily is illegal, being whipped involuntarily is only recently illegal, ie you could be threatened with it in 1993. At the last case that came to Court on the mainland, the judge said it should never have got that far and threw it out. Symptomatic of lifestyle freedoms or not, is it still legal on the island specifically? I'll not dwell on this. There are more important points to plough on with. I have a feeling most contributors on this forum are much too young to understand these points.
  13. Although the library is now open, I though I'd get my information straight from the horse's mouth: I spoke to Customs & Excise about the use of corporal punishment against drugs smuggling this afternoon. "Hmmm... Good question..." they said (quite worrying, that), and went to fetch an expert. A bit later, they were able to clarify that Manx customs legislation is much in line with the UK apart from cannabis, which has not been declassified on the island, and remain's relatively harsh. They say the cat-o'-nine-tails was commonly called the birch, and it's use became illegal in 1993. Online sources I have found concur with this, and mention the last actual use as 1981. (Note: 13 Years ago, not 30.) So I'll adjust my introduction accordingly. However I will repeat: It does not mention the birch, and it does not mention homosexuality. It outline's the (fairly recent) use of flogging in law, and the intolerance in law of many of the freedoms you think you have, but don't. So it'll go from "harmless" to "mostly harmless", is what I'm saying: The preamble is a minor detail, the directory list's custodial institutions and address information for them that is missing from other directories. I have been in contact with other portions of the Manx authorities, and I will be updating and extending other information.
  14. Points: Resolved; Exact Location of the new prison Exact Location of the old prison Location/Status of Leece Lodge Location of White Hoe Still posed or new; Status of mental healthcare Website of IOMC Status of cat-o'-nine-tails sentencing Imprisonment rates "Prisoness" of Leece Lodge "Prisoness" of White Hoe I attempted to retract the statements on my directory about homosexuallity and the birch, but I am unable to do so, because I did not make those statements in the first place. The statements I did make were misinterpreted as refering to these items. I will add a clarification, once I have found the necessary online references. (I have not been able to connect (to the internet) over the last two days.)
  15. (This information was composed before the pm from Tango. I now have contrary insistant remarks on some points from separate sources.) I need to find multiple correlating references before I can alter the information. My intent is not to cause offence (it's just a knack). The info on cat-o-nine tails (worse than the birch, designed to strip the flesh instead of just cut/bruise,) and homosexuality laws came originally from Lonely Planet and similar travel guides. The whipping is quoted as a penalty for drug smuggling. I have yet to find any references against that. I have found from [searching] Amnesty International, that homosexual acts were legalised on the island in 1992, but the age of consent was not equalised until last september (after I first published my information): http://www.gov.im/lib/news/cso/updateonconsulta.xml Section 38 seem's to indicate that they still may be no public sector tolerance of employment Rights(?). Leece Lodge / White Hoe: A secure unit is another name for a prison. Further names include: Bail/Probation Hostel (may be both) Mental Hospital* (Locked Ward / MSU/RSU/HSH) Medium/Regional Secure Unit** (MSU/RSU) Residential School* [scottish] High Security Hospital (HSH) Military Correction Training Centre (MTC) Local Authority Secure Children's Home (LASCH) Secure Training Centre (STC) * Some innocent institutions, like hospitals treating those with a learning disability, and some boarding schools, also call themselves this, just to confuse. ** Some LASCHs and STCs (child prisons) are incorrectly called RSUs. "Unit" mean's a small facility, usually in a group of similar units, and also usually in the grounds of a larger institution, like a hospital or school. "Secure" or "Closed" means the residents are not free to leave. Sometimes escorted trips are permitted. "Open" or, presumably, "Insecure", means residents agree (or not) to abide by a contract and usually limited by curfew. If they break the contract, they get arrested as soon as anyone can find them. After curfew, there is a lockdown, and they become temporarily "Secure". This is further complicated by some prisons taking different categories of prisoner simultaneously. In the case of child prisons, people may be admitted for protection from abuse/assault, as well other people there at the same time in criminal custody. Some prisons may have both open and closed units on the same campus. So it may look like all inmates can move freely when only some are permitted this. There would be no point in putting eg a persistent violent vandal in a secure unit if they can just walk out and torch the next bus stop etc. But that doesn't mean that the people in there for their own protection against outside violence are criminals, either. This is covered in IOM legislation in Section 27.1 of the Children and Young Persons Act 2001 http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/infocentre/acts/cypa2001.pdf -Where "secure accommodation" is defined as "accommodation provided for the purpose of restricting liberty": That's called a prison. They are not supposed to commit them unless they've committed murder or something (Sect. 76), and it is reasonable to assume that this is rare enough on the island for there sometimes to be only Open accommodation used.
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