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  1. It's a good topic you have raised and your post covers many separate subjects. However, I would just like to correct you slightly on the above point, in that although a motion would fail if voted against by the Legislative Council, this is only an initial defeat. The Legislative Council veto was removed by way of an amended Constitution Act half a century ago (give or take a few weeks in fact). If the House of Keys lost a vote to the Legislative Council it can - within 6 months - reintroduce the motion and have it voted on by Tynwald as a whole. Thus, with 18 votes in the House of Keys
  2. Peter Norris Music is Mitchell's in all but name.
  3. Nothing. But I did point out that it was off-topic, if it makes you grumpy. It linked in to a point made previously. Almost like a conversation, a forum thread drifting off topic. Whatever next?
  4. /off topic a bit but out of interest: Yes, our politicians were very litigious. if not very sensitive, in those days. George William Dumbell MHK (founder of the Dumbell's Bank) took one newspaper owner to court for printing a pseudonymous letter that was rather unkind to him. Pseudonyms were very common in the Isle of Man newspapers right up until quite recently, so It's not confined to manxforums and the internet to hide behind anonymous names when writing scathing remarks about our leaders. Anyway, the newspaper owner was taken to court, and despite his advocate, Alfred Laughto
  5. lisner


    I kind of see the point you are making Rog, judging by your previous posts on the subject, but it's not really an oxymoron though is it, whichever way you look at it. ps 'Downie' is the correct spelling.
  6. In the late 1800s there was much concern in Castletown regarding landowners closing down/diverting/blocking footpaths and public rights of way in the area. Further to a requisition, a meeting was convened by the High Bailiff at the time, and the Castletown Association for the Protection of Footpaths and Bye-ways was formed. I suppose it was all not dissimilar to today's situation.
  7. I heard an excellent mixed metaphor from a listener the other days, something to do with MHKs with their noses in the gravy train! Almost as good as Peter Karran talking about the white elephants coming home to roost!
  8. Mec Vannin, and the Manx Nationalist party have had plenty of representation at elections in the past. It is interesting to note that some of them only gained success once they had dropped the party tag. A Manx National Party/Mec Vannin candidate successfully gained election in Douglas South in 1976 when Peter Craine was elected although he was not returned at the following general election. Allan Bell, the current Finance Minister, stood unsuccessfully as a Mec Vannin candidate in 1976. He didn't stand again until a by-election in November 1984 although he didn't stand as a Mec Va
  9. Roger Watterson is interviewing David Callister MLC and Charles Guard on Manx Radio Opinion just now. Gwendoline Lamb was mentioned but unfortunately they couldn't find a clip of her voice. I thought I would oblige by bumping this thread up from a few years ago. It looks like it might become topical again anyway. (Audio clips in first post of thread)
  10. The Times of India today goes for the strightforward 6 kingdoms: the kingdoms of: England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Man itself and if you look up, the kingdom of Heaven . . . . with a seventh at the very end of the article being the, er, kingdom of childhood
  11. lisner

    Heads Up

    The TT will be finished off when there is a successful majority political will to do so. Perhaps next General Election a detractor might stand on an anti-TT platform. There are a very small number of MHKs who could possibly be classed as not being out-and-out TT supporters but they aren't against it as such and certainly not openly.
  12. Mayor Of Douglas, Who will be next? Is now a pertinent question. The Council had already made a decision in voting Dot Pitts, wife of Councillor Stephen Pitts to be the next mayor. The decision was not unanimous or indeed popular. That is perhaps academic now, as Mrs Pitts lost her seat to Liberal Vannin Candidate Sara Blackman. What sort of person needs to be Mayor of our capital city? Maybe the Council will stick with their decision and have a non-council member to be mayor as they did when R.A. Oates lost his seat in 1997 but returned to take the boss's chair for the year. F
  13. This matter has been discussed from various angles on many occasions in Tynwald over the years. About ten years ago the Government had an awful lot of difficulty in even getting the BBC to reply to their correspondence. Some of the more emotional politicians suggested we stop paying the licence fee or at least put the proceeds into an account until such time as the BBC bosses acknowledged the letters. On one occasion though, after a Calm down! Calm down! scenario, Tynwald realised, that however the situation had arrived, they could not that easily get out of it and in particular they did
  14. Manx Radio News Malachy Cornwall-Kelly (who seems an all round good egg imho) gives Tynwald a glowing report in the audio file attached to the News Items. I would disagree on one small point though, at the end he says "every member has a right to put down a motion an have it debated" This is not correct. Certainly the right to put down a motion to Tynwald is there but it is only debated if there is a seconder to the motion. There have been a number of motions put to Tynwald where our elected members have preferred not to have it debated. "Let's not go there" sort of thing.
  15. More like twice removed although some would say totally removed as it is a secret ballot and there is no way of knowing who votes for who. It is well worth contacting any or all MHKs, not necessarily your own. This is not a constituency matter.
  16. Better than 'man in street' or 'man in pub' I would have thought. I was rather interested to see my own research contribution mentioned at item 5.1 and 5.2 in the report.
  17. I realise this particular subject has been touched on elsewhere but thought it might warrant its own topic. From this Friday's Independent page 4: Report Here
  18. There was a public meeting tonight in connection with Port Erin Commissioners plans to sell off the Bradda Glen Cafe. Manx Radio Notice here A local Bradda man, John 'Mano' Maddrell had provided much publicity to the cause by presenting a memorial at the bar of Tynwald on Thursday 12th July 2007 Click here for link to transcript - go to Page 958 It is not a common occurrence for members of the public to be allowed to have their say in Tynwald, but the motion put forward by Peter Karran MHK (Onchan) to suspend Standing Orders to allow John Maddrell to do so was passed, although it is pe
  19. Sorry to sound a bit gossipy, but has anyone heard anything about a train derailment at Castletown station?
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    Heh! a good post Declan. I think the Spanish Head connection to Juan has been around for many years. There is a story that when the Ordnance Survey military chaps roamed these lands doing their work, the main source of naming places was to use local history and ask the inhabitants. The Spanish Head story was supposedly given as a joke to wind the foreign gents up. I don't go with this story and want to believe there was a wreck of the Spanish Armada and survivors on the Island. The Armada was scattered up the coast of Ireland and it is not inconceivable there was a stray hit our r
  21. A little off topic but: You could also dedicate a whole programme of Mandate, although better Agenda programme, to Peter Norris' grandfather. Probably one of the most influential politicians of the last century. He went to prison for his beliefs. He was against the Coroner's auction of hotel furniture due to non payment of rates during the war and persuaded people not to bid. The big boys said this was a naughty thing to do and so he was incarcerated. He was eventually freed, but not without a fight. He went on to be an MHK for about a quarter of a century and later a Member of the Leg
  22. mmmhh. interesting to see one of my postsdragged up teapot. Not too sure of the relevance though. I'd like to comment on the Mandate item this morning but it isn't on the Listen Again page yet. I only half heard it this morning. Oh, and could anyone direct me to the Search News facility on Manx Radio website, it appears to have gawne. I generally find the Manx Radio news to be iinformative and reliable.
  23. I wish we could make up our minds whether we are one of the richest independent nations with one of the fastest growing economies in the world or we are some backwater with a population less than the likes of Darlington, Hartlepool or Wigan.
  24. It is quite a serious subject isn't it. It somehow doesn't sit well with the current breaking news that Tim Crookall MHK is to join the next round of the IoMToday orchestrated MHK Idol. IoMToday I keep having visions of young newspaper reporters giggling and laughing and wondering what 'News' they can come up with today. Or maybe they are earnest and sincere in their production of this stuff? Maybe I should just lighten up a little
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    On A Clear Day

    Anyone see the film On A Clear Day made on location in the Isle of Man (Port Erin, Dog Mills, Ramsey, Douglas Promenade) although the website link states only location as Glasgow. I thought this was an excellent film and better than any other made here. The trailer voice over is a cracker. Just a little tooooo much dramatic tension for this sort of film if you ask me!
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