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  1. 1 hour ago, John Wright said:

    They’ve said by 28/6. We shall see. There’s got to be an agreement that the data isn’t shared on. So that might take the AG’s a month

    Unless they have a holiday booked themselves of course....

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  2. 1 hour ago, ballaughbiker said:

    I get the feeling we are talking at cross purposes. 

    I know (having emailed Manx officialdom) that they ultimately wish to do a data drop to Pinnacle that will enable the so-called 'vaccine passport' within the NHS digital app. 

    It is just a matter of when as I perceived a slight lack of official understanding why this is so important should we have the temerity to venture further than Dover. The Minister allegedly did not know, just a week or so ago, that the NHS app could be used by Manx residents.

    The whole reason for my bumbling contributions has been to :

    1. Outline why I believe this is important.

    2. To hopefully keep officialdom 'interested' in a timely outcome. 

    I agree, and like you think that they have only very recently realised how important it is to have something in place. Up until a few weeks back we were being told to get a letter from our GP or print of the page from patient access. 

    This could and should have been sorted ages ago.

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  3. 1 hour ago, ballaughbiker said:

    Nope, I perfectly understand what we are currently not getting and what is likely to be the expected format ('required by regulation' and 'expected' are clearly not synonymous).

    C'mon John, you have done enough travelling/living in all sorts of different countries and you will likely be aware of 'paperwork' requirements outside UK/IOM and how to negotiate them with minimum stress.

    If you have what they are expecting you aren't (in their opinion) a PIA. If you don't have what they are expecting, for any reason, you become (just in their opinion, remember) a PIA, no matter how undeserved.

    35 years of dealing with officialdom in Europe in various countries have personally illustrated this time and time again and quoting the law (even if you're 101% correct) just makes things worse. Usually much worse.

    So...155 people get off a plane in Malage say. 153 have the NHS app with its QR code. Happy days. 2 from the little old IOM don't because their gov "use a different system". It doesn't take much imagination to work out how already peed off Capt Guardia Civil will react.

    Of course, wouldn't this QR code on an app be ever so useful to our police/customs here after 28th June ? 

    This needs sorting asap.


    But they are sorting it and we will have the NHS App by 28th June...according to HQ anyway. NHS digital are 'sorting Wales first, then us apparently.

  4. 2 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

    Interestingly I note Ms Edge asked a question in Tynwald the other day about Ettyl and Government involvolvement. Assume she's getting her interest rumours from MF.

    Also don't forget the sellers here are a Plc and their share price looks to have gone to shit since the airline collapsed.

    Hopefully the investigation will live up to its code name and not take too long to complete. Many here have a keen interest in knowing why this situation came to be. Especially those who lost their jobs.

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  5. 1 minute ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

    I cannot see how the police would ever be involved due to paperwork from a proposed third party funder.

    If that third party is Manx they would.

    The fact that the feds have taken the case on must mean they have been presented with evidence that suggests a crime may have been committed.

  6. 1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said:

    Or the Manx Police or a bunch of drama queens. 

    Or the Telegraph is making up a load of old tosh to make its readers think it's more exciting than it really is.

    I doubt either of those are true. I think it likely that all investigations by the FCU are given a codename. This name has links to aviation in that Westland made both a helicopter and a twin engined fighter that carried that name, plus in meteorological terms it's a dangerous wind.

    It can also describe an energetic person or a tumultuous process according to my dictionary.

    All may be appropriate.



  7. 9 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

    Does your vaccination history appear on the Patient Access app? We have a difference of opinion in our house about it.  I am getting the codes required from my group practice next week so I can  utilise the app.

    It does - screenshot below - but not in the format that will likely be accepted as proof of vaccination and testing status. You will need the NHS app for that. The NHS app does most of what patient access does anyway. I ordered my last repeat prescription through the NHS app.

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  8. 19 minutes ago, Apple said:

    ...and if you only have an olde fashioned phone or do not have a phone at all the DHSC will give you one for free.

    Like they do when you work for Government. And a lap top computer.

    "cause you're worth it.


    Being linked into the same system that 'powers' the NHS App will also allow you to have a proof of vaccination letter generated and sent to you. I believe this letter has a unique QR code on it which can be scanned just as the QR code on the app itself is. You won't need a phone, but you will need to get online to generate the letter.



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  9. 3 minutes ago, gymbabe said:

    Also, If you have any meds, your NHS number should be on the prescription slip from the chemist which accompanies them. 

    It's also visible on patient access if you already have that. On mine it's shown in the contact details section of the account menu.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, snowman said:

    Red classifications on Jersey's border control system last for at least two weeks and require all passengers to self isolate for at least ten days on arrival into Jersey, unless they have been fully vaccinated or are under the age of 18.


    The Jersey Government website suggests that if vaccinated, in effect, you have a test to release protocol to follow if coming from a red zone. 

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  11. 47 minutes ago, Sheldon said:

    My wife tells me I'm not a very nice person sometimes, but my personal favourite was seeing land whales turned away at Disneyworld for being too big to fit into the roller coaster seats which had been specially designed to fit even the morbidly obese of America.

    I was thinking more along the lines of vision standards for driving and hiked or refused insurance premiums for pre existing medical conditions. Obesity is normally something you can address - but if you are too short to go on a roller coaster, then that is outside of your control.

  12. 2 minutes ago, trmpton said:

    I don’t think people chose to be in their 20s, 30s or 40s.

    Those are the people who have our their lives on hold when realistically there was no risk to them, and are now being penalised by having to test and isolate.  Surely those fortunate enough to have had two jabs can see why those who might still be restricted for an extra couple of months are a bit peeved.

    My niece and nephew, both under 30, live in Ramsey and don’t drive.

    £30 each for a test.  Cost them £70 in a taxi by the time the waited at test centre 45 minutes and did a return journey.

    I can see why people are annoyed.  If oldies are getting the advantages it does seem harsh that the youngsters are being disadvantaged AND having to pay for the privilege 

    So should we wait until everyone has been double jabbed to make sure nobody has an advantage? 



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  13. 1 hour ago, Gladys said:

    Some whingeing on MR this morning about how these  new arrangements discriminate against those who have not had jabs.  So, what do we do, hold off on this step so no-one is discriminated against?

    The anti-vaxxers need to get a grip and understand it is their own choice not have the vax, so they alone put themselves into that position.

    With regards to those who can't have the jab for medical reasons, feel some sympathy but the test and isolate arrangements aren't too arduous, are they?

    Exactly. There are many examples where people are prevented from doing things because of medical conditions, size etc.  Accommodations are made where possible, and as you say, the current testing and release protocols aren't too arduous in any event. 

    Those who are still waiting their vaccine, yes, it's unfortunate. But, their time will come shortly and the rest of us shouldn't have to wait until that point. 

    Antivaxxers - they chose to be part of the problem not the solution. No sympathy here.

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  14. It will be interesting to see how this is administered.

    Who checks vaccine status and where? Do we just go for it or do we still need to let IOMG know our travel plans?

    Direction notices will still need to be issued for the unjabbed I would have thought.

  15. Another big change is the removal of the requirement to isolate if you have been a close contact of a positive case. That will make a huge difference in how we live with the inevitable community cases that will pop up at some point.

    And yes, happening from 28th.


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  16. 4 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:


    It would appear so, it seems to be a replacement for the move to level 1, but admittedly it's not very clear.

    1. At present, whilst it is not considered appropriate to move to Borders Level 1, or Level 2, offering the 2 + 2 vaccination exemption and the extension of the UK/Channel Islands test and release pathway to travellers who have been in Ireland is considered to represent a low and acceptable level of additional risk.

    Interesting that Eire is going to be included too.

  17. 9 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

    No it wasn't.  According to the document itself: At its meeting on Thursday 3rd June, the Council of Ministers sought advice from the Emergency Advisory Group. Council requested that the advice was provided no later than Wednesday 9th June 2021.

    They did that producing the Response on the 9th (five days ago) and it was made public fairly soon after.  Rachel tweeted it on 11th and it was linked to and discussed on Manx Forums.  If Manx Radio didn't get round to reporting till today (probably because the Government didn't send out a press release with it to be coped and pasted) that's not the Government's fault for once.

    I stand corrected. I read the 3rd rather than the 9th for the date of the document.

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