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  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnFeMcBVng
  2. The point I was making - badly it seems, was that there appear to be an unusual number of serious crimes at the moment. There are others than the ones I originally listed. Added to that we have the recent spate of burglaries. I wasn't saying these crimes could have been prevented by the police, neither was I knocking their efforts in the burglaries. Burglaries are notoriously difficult to stop due to the opportunistic nature and quick entry / exit, often in and out within seconds or a minute or so at the most and off back into the bushes. It was more a comment on the times I suppose, rising crime and rising seriousness of crime. Whilst supporting a friend in court I heard the judge state (on another case) that Facebook was the cause of many of the hearings. Maybe we should ban Facebook, alcohol and people from the UK and the IOM would once again be crime free!
  3. Just checked a local radio website local news section. Kidnap case, attempted murder case, stabbing case and a dead teenager found on local shores WTF is going on. Fortunately these things don't happen very often and the top copper is more concerned about alcohol licensing. Did they catch the thieves yet??
  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12EeoRTWuXA
  5. They seem pricey - £140 for the oak! Ash is better anyway. Try ringing a few tree surgery people, they usually have stuff that's been seasoned and will deliver more for cheaper than the cash windfall people's prices. Or get yourself a chainsaw, safety gear and a good splitting axe and start your own log pile.
  6. Perhaps a TT museum could be merged with the House of Mannanin, went there recently and it was seriously dated and not really a very good expereince. They have the space for a great TT display and if this was coupled with some advanced multimedia it would make a great attraction, and no need to spend millions on a new build. Can't really see a World Series working. Insurances, loss of uniqeness and lack of teams and riders as others have said all seem to be valid reasons as to why it could not work. Much better to improve what we have and then look at somehow subsidising travel costs to the island the rest of the year and develop other attractions / festivals such as Mannifest. A bigger music festival would bring in more visitors than TT and would not have the associated costs of multiple deaths and accidents on the road. Keep to the TT and improve it, and develop and encourage other local tourist attractions. Red Bull sponsorship of the TT would be fantastic.
  7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmRwQCoK_XY
  8. Wing mirrors? But this is a 1961 car so maybe not.
  9. Do you know where (and why) the best place to 'buy' BitCoin is?
  10. Using your regular pc? Waste of time. You could turn a profit if you've got access to a network of well specced pc's, but anyone making cash off this thing is using dedicated miners. Even then, the criminals are pushing the difficulty up so even that's hard. Unless you want to invest some money, time and effort, or break the law, I'd avoid mining for profit. Would this be any good Slim? http://www.butterflylabs.com/landing/slanding.php Think they used to offer dedicated home use boxes too?
  11. If you have a mobile phone or are thinking of buying one for your 10 year old this Christmas you may like to take a look at the following link: http://rt.com/shows/the-truthseeker/manifacturers-cell-phone-warning-447/ Cue Chinahand and the rest to tell you it's all bollocks...
  12. Go to the Head Office in Slough and find that twat Barry Scott's car, then spray the fucker all over with Cillit Bang, and spray his car too.
  13. We already have an Act of Tynwald banning GMO's on the Isle of Man http://www.legislation.gov.im/cms/images/phocadownload/Acts_of_Tynwald/Primary_2001/Genetically%20Modified%20Organisms%20Act%202001.pdf I think this was down to Phil Gawne. Some of the farmers are pro GMO of course due to lobbying, and brainwashing at collges but we can hopefully keep it out over here. This is an interesting watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_DbVdVo-k Would be great if there were more incentives for farmers to go organic, higher taxes on pesticides and herbicides would be a start and cash grants to go arganic instead would help. Seeme strange to spray poison on your food after all!
  14. What would the cost have been to lay an extra cable - or two - with all the related infrasatructure, and could one have been laid to Scotland or Ireland?
  15. Ringwraith

    Lsd

    Haha, love it, here's what McKenna wrote about the 'machine elves':- At about minute one or two of a DMT trip, according to McKenna, one may burst through a chrysanthemum-like mandala, and find: There's a whole bunch of entities waiting on the other side, saying "How wonderful that you're here! You come so rarely! We're so delighted to see you!" They're like jewelled self-dribbling basketballs and there are many of them and they come pounding toward you and they will stop in front of you and vibrate, but then they do a very disconcerting thing, which is they jump into your body and then they jump back out again and the whole thing is going on in a high-speed mode where you're being presented with thousands of details per second and you can't get a hold on [them ...] and these things are saying "Don't give in to astonishment", which is exactly what you want to do. You want to go nuts with how crazy this is, and they say "Don't do that. Pay attention to what we're doing". What they're doing is making objects with their voices, singing structures into existence. They offer things to you, saying "Look at this! Look at this!" and as your attention goes towards these objects you realise that what you're being shown is impossible. It's not simply intricate, beautiful and hard to manufacture, it's impossible to make these things. The nearest analogy would be the Fabergé eggs, but these things are like the toys that are scattered around the nursery inside a U.F.O., celestial toys, and the toys themselves appear to be somehow alive and can sing other objects into existence, so what's happening is this proliferation of elf gifts, which are moving around singing, and they are saying "Do what we are doing" and they are very insistent, and they say "Do it! Do it! Do it!" and you feel like a bubble inside your body beginning to move up toward your mouth, and when it comes out it isn't sound, it's vision. You discover that you can pump "stuff" out of your mouth by singing, and they're urging you to do this. They say "That's it! That's it! Keep doing it!". We're now at minute 4.5 [of the trip] and you speak in a kind of glossolalia. There is a spontaneous outpouring of syntax unaccompanied by what is normally called "meaning". After a minute or so of this the whole thing begins to collapse in on itself and they begin to physically move away from you. Usually their final shot is that they wave goodbye and say "Deja vu! Deja vu!". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elf PS - Don't try this at home
  16. Interested in the effects of mobile phones / masts / wi-fi / EMF / cordless phones / game stations / etc., etc and the adverse effects they will be having on your health, and the health of your children? - then you may care to take a look at this documentary ; -
  17. Unfortunately this is only likely to get worse, as the implications of the economic depression hit the island harder.
  18. Wow, there are some right fascists on here, especially that LDV weirdo, man what a tosser! Yeah there can be complications from the measles, mumps or even the flu, but guess what there are complications from the jabs as well including death and disability / brain damage and autism. Chinahand's graphs as proof! Higher deaths from whooping cough in the US in the pre war era - what when it was the great depression and people were migrating all over the states in search of a rotten old spud to eat you mean? Generally hygiene and improved diet are the cause of improved health in the population. No doubt some vaccines are useful in certain situations, but come on - compulsory vaccines for the flu or measles, are you fascist cunts really for real?
  19. That percentage sounds extremely high - 93%, is it conclusive, and from long range / term studies / end points. Or have the vaccine makers simply rushed another vaccine to market without properly and exhaustively testing it? Oh and loved the Quackwatch debunk of the list I posted previously. Who is Quackwatch run by anyway - a quack shrink with links to the FDA, pharma industry etc by any chance? haha.
  20. Mmm, I know. Some of them have even written books about it to try and warn the public (I mean scam money from gullible folk) - can you believe it!
  21. http://www.vaccinesuncensored.org/ingredients.php No professional opinion here! "In 1993 a high court judge in the UK decided that is was impossible to know the exact contents of vaccines and that science had no idea what the cocktail of chemicals, contaminants and heavy metals contained in vaccines could do to the human body, or why they would work to prevent disease." British Medical Journal, 1993 "No one knows the long term consequences of injecting foreign proteins into the body. Even more shocking is the fact that no one is making any structured effort to find out." Robert S. Mendelsohn MD, Professor of Pediatrics, University of Illinios, 'The Medical Time Bomb of Immunization Against Disease' "When we eat protein it is broken down into its constituent amino acids...if a foreign animal protein makes it into our bloodstream without having being broken down this can set up an autoimmune type response...By injecting things never meant to be in the body we are not only bypassing body defenses but wrongly activating other defenses." Robyn Cosford MD, Documentary 'Vaccination:The Hidden Truth' back to top Vaccines...Sterile and Safe? "I think no person would permit anybody to get close to them with an inoculation if they would really know how they made and what they carry...When you go to the doctor you may see a very clear liquid in an injection or the pink brew that was given to us on sugar cubes. And we may think it is very sterile and very purified but it is not...”The testing cell cultures used in vaccines is commonly done 14 to 21 days after cells are planted, the usual period for most virologic studies. At that time, only 2-4 percent show viral infections, but if the same lots are examined 29 to 55 days after plating, a significantly higher percentage of cultures show viral infection." Eva Snead MD, San Antonio, Texas "In the Rimavexmeasles vaccine we found various chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthomeba which is so called ”brain-eating” ameba. Simian cytomegatovias in the polio vaccine, simian foamy in the rotavirus vaccine, bird cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine.various organisms in the anthrax vaccine, dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines. Duck, dog and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine. Avian leucosis virus in the flu vaccine, postivirus in the MMR vaccine... Also, most don't know that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella, Hepatitis A measles vaccines etc. have been made with aborted human fetal tissue." Dr. Mark Randall (pseudonym) former NIH researcher and vaccine developer for major pharmaceuticals, interviewed by investigative journalist John Rappoport "Federal inspectors documented unwanted fibers on the stoppers of vaccine vials at Merck & Co. Inc.'s vast vaccine plant in Montgomery County... Inspectors... cited 49 areas of concern including a failure to follow good manufacturing practices... The report comes as demand for Merck's vaccines is surging. The company began selling four new vaccines in 2005 and 2006, pushing up total vaccine sales from 1.1 billion in 2005 to $4.3 billion in 2007. The findings are detailed in an unpublished twenty-one page FDA report and accessed by The Philidelphia Inquirer under the Federal Freedom of Information Act." Philadelphia Inquirer, 4/30/08 "BayGam is made from human plasma. Products made from human plasma may contain infectious agents such as viruses, that cause disease." Immuno Globulin Insert, Bayer Corporation back to top Vaccine Ingredients: A Toxic Stew? "Some additional ingredients (as listed by the CDC in their website) include antibiotics which you could be allergic to; aluminum which when combined with silicon deficiency results in neurofibrillary tangles seen in Alzheimers; formaldehyde – a toxic carcinogenic substance used to preserve dead people; MSG – a potent excitotoxin which like aspartame can cause seizures and brain tumours; egg protein to which you could have life threatening anaphylactic reaction; and sulfites another toxin injected directly into blood stream. What the CDC does not admit is that 13 vaccines at present are cultured on aborted fetal tissue (human diploid cells). They also fail to mention the ethyl mercury containing preservative thimerosal which has been the ONLY dangerous substance in vaccines to received mainstream media attention..." Rebecca Carley MD, VIDS Expert, 'Inoculations: The True Weapon of Mass Destruction' "All vaccine ingredients are poisonous, carcinogenic, or potentially harmful to the skin, gastro-intestinal, pulmonary, neurological and immune systems...What about formaldehyde? Are we going to wait until another brave physician or scientist writes about the damaging effects of formaldehyde on our children's brains before we are called to demand that formaldehyde be removed? Or about Problems associated with having Polysorbate 80 in the vaccine? Polysorbate-80 is used in pharmacology to assist in the delivery of certain drugs or chemotherapeutic agents across the blood-brain barrier. What bacterial, yeast, heavy metal or other vaccine containing ingredients need to pass into the brains of our children?" Lawrence B. Palevsky, MD, FAAP, Pediatrician, 'Aluminum and Vaccine Ingredients: What Do We Know? What Don't We Know?' "Aluminum, a common adjuvant, has known toxicity on the kidneys with causal relationship to encephalitis, bone disease and anemia... Aluminum hydroxyl induces inflammatory reaction of the immune cells, releasing aberrant signaling proteins." Barbara Brewitt, PhD, 'MMR Vaccine and 'Helpers' as Toxic Agents' "Alum or Aluminum hydroxide can cause vaccine allergy and anaphylaxis and macrophage myofascitis a chronic inflammation syndrome." Dr. Mae Wan Ho Geneticist and Biophysicist, Director, Institute of Science in Society London, England "Chicken pox vaccine is produced in lung tissue obtained from two surgically aborted human fetuses... Merck's own literature states the vaccine contains 'residual components' of fetal lung cells... Informed consent, a basic tenant of ethical medical practice, dictates citizens should have a choice whether or not they are injected with another person' body cells." Kristine Severyn, RPhD, PhD, 'Profit not Science Drives Vaccine Mandates' "Aspartame (artificial sweetener) is a neurotoxin. Who cares what the vaccine tastes like? Why are they putting aspartame in vaccines?" Rebecca Carley MD, General Surgeon, Court Qualified VIDS Expert back to top Would we give an adult thirty vaccines at once? "A single vaccine given to a six pound newborn is the equivalent of giving a 180 pound adult 30 vaccinations on the same day. Include the toxic effects of high levels of aluminum and formaldehyde contained in some vaccines, and the synergist toxicity could be increased to unknown levels...Bilary transport is the major biochemical route by which mercury is removed from the body, and infants cannot do this very well. They also do not possess the renal (kidney)capacity to remove aluminum. Additionally, mercury is well-known inhibitor of kidney function." Boyd Haley PhD., Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky "I challenged a fanatical pro-vaccinator to go on TV and allow himself to be injected with baby vaccines adjusted to his body weight... We haven't heard back from him. I think this is a reasonable request to be issued to all vaccinators" Viera Scheibner PhD, Author of Several Books on Vaccination back to top Thimerosal in Vaccines: A Disturbing History "Thimerosal was tested only once, by Eli Lilly on the 22 adult patients suffering from meningitis. There was no chance for follow-up to observe long-term effects, as all the patients in this "study" died. Even if follow-up had been possible, damage to the developing brains of very young children would have remained unknown. Eli Lilly said it was safe and the medical community accepted it. After the creation of the FDA, its use was simply continued. The federal government has never tested the type of mercury in vaccines for toxicity. This is an unconscionable oversight failure at best, at worse it is an example of how we have left consensus reality to be created by the liars junk scientists employ." Kenneth P. Stoller, MD. 'My Open Letter to the American Academy of Pediatrics' "You mean to tell me that since 1929 we've been using thimerosal (in vaccines) and in the only test that you know of...everyone of those people had meningitis and they all died?" Congressional Representative Dan Burton, Congressional Hearing, 7/18/2000 "Dr. Maurice Hilleman of Merck who drew attention to safety concerns over thimerosal... In a memo to his colleagues, Dr. Gorden Douglas in March 1991 not only reported these concerns but presented his estimate that the mercury load to a fully vaccinated U.S. infant would be fifty-seven times the Swedish daily allowance. In the memo he bemoaned the lack of any science that identified the safety of using thimerosal. It appears his warnings went unheeded. Hilleman's key document was to remain in a company box." Andrew Wakefield MD, FRCS, FRCPath "We began to learn that the greatest problem with the meeting (Simpsonwood) is that, they know virtually nothing about what they are doing. On page 15, for example, they admit that there is very little pharmacokinetic data on ethyl mercury, the form of mercury in thimerosal, In fact, they say there is no data on excretion, the data on toxicity is sparse, yet it is recognized to cause hypersensitivity, it can cause neurological problems and even death, and it is known to easily pass the blood-brain barrier and placental barrier. Therefore, what they are admitting is that we have a form of mercury that has been used in vaccines since the 1930s and no one has bothered to study the effects on biological systems." Russell Blaylock MD, Neurosurgeon, 'The Truth Behind the Vaccine Cover-Up' "If you inject thimerosal into an animal, it's brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage." Boyd Haley PhD, Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky (Studies show) a 7 to 1 increase in relative risk of injury for children born to mothers who got a thimerosal-preserved flu shot in the first four lunar months of their pregnancy over matched mothers who did not. 'Birth Defects & Drugs in Pregnancy, Heinonem, Slone, Shapiro "The medical literature is abound with studies on the deleterious effects of mercury on numerous enzymes, mitochondrial energy production, synaptic function dendritic retraction neurotubule dissolution and excitotoxicity, yet he sees only a "theoretical concern"...It is a misnomer to say "removal of thimerosal" since they are not removing anything. (Just what will they be replacing it with?) They just plan to stop adding it to future vaccines once they use up existing stocks, which entails millions of doses. And incredibly the government allows them to do it. Even more incredibly, the American Academy of Family Practice similarly endorse this insane policy." Russell Blaylock, MD, Neurosurgeon, 'The Truth Behind the Vaccine Cover-up' "It's important to remember when you hear from vaccine safety promoters that ethylmercury (in thimerosal) disappears from the blood in several days, that the mercury leaves the plasma and enter the brain where it de-ethylated and remains for a lifetime...What they fail to mention is that only 7% of methylmercury is converted to ionic mercury whereas 34% of ethlymercury is converted in a short time." Russel Blaylock MD, Neurosurgeon, 'Vaccines Neurodevelopment and Autism Spectrum Disorders 3/12/08 "This study provides strong epidemiological evidence for a link between increasing mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopment disorders and heart disease." Mark Grier MD, PhD; 'Thimerosal in Childhood Vaccines, Neurodevelopment Disorders and Heart Disease in the United States "Mercury is one of the most dangerous substances known to man. It should not have a place in any vaccine for anyone of any age." Richard Halvorsen MD, Author, 'The Truth about Vaccination' back to top Thimerosal –Free or Not? "Out of about 120 million doses of the worthless (1) flu vaccine shipped for the 2007-08 flu season, no more than about 15 million doses, including the less than 4 million live-virus doses, were no thimerosal doses. That means that about 87% contained some level of thimerosal and at least 42% contained the maximum level (0.01%) of thimerosal....Today in some states, the flu vaccine given to those under 3years of age is supposed to contain no more than a trace level of thimerosal, but with no government agency testing vaccines for mercury, the only ones who know whether a preservative-free vaccine (flu or otherwise) actually is mercury free are the manufacturers themselves." Kenneth P. Stoller MD, 'My Open Letter to The American Academy of Pediatrics' "No preference is indicated for use of vaccine that does not contain thimerosal... for any group recommended for vaccination including pregnant women." www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/default.htm#flu "Many vaccine manufacturers voluntarily began producing 'supposed' mercury-free vaccines in 1999. The June 2006 lab result from Doctor's Data run counter to vaccine manufacturers' claims. For example, some product inserts currently claim that a trace amount of mercury exists in the final product but the amount has been greatly reduced. Others claim to be producing completely mercury-free products. All four vaccine vials tested contained mercury despite manufacturer claims that two of the vials were completely mercury-free. All four vials contained aluminum, one contained nine times more than the other three, tremendously enhancing the toxicity of mercury." Health Advocacy in the Public Interest, 8/12/04 back to top Mercury: Ingestion versus Injection "In eating, a complex food containing tissue-bound mercury species, the person's digestive system containing metallothionen compounds reduce the amount of mercury that enters the body to some fraction of mercury in that food. In contrast all the mercury in a vaccine enters the body... Mercury in breast milk has been exposed to the protective proteins in the mother's human toxic protection system... the 360 micrograms/180 days or 2 micrograms/day of methyl mercury delivered over a twenty-four hour period. A vaccine contains 12.5 to 25 micrograms of ethyl mercury- a six to twelve fold increase is injected instead of ingested within one minute. In some vaccines, it is also combined with polymeric aluminum hydroxyl materials... which has been shown to raise the potential toxicity of thimerosal." Andrew Wakefield MD, FRCS, FRCPath "It is clear from our analysis shown in Table 1 that US infants are exposed to mercury levels from their childhood immunization schedule that far exceed the EPA and FDA established maximum permissible levels for the daily oral ingestion of methyl mercury. The fact that mercury in vaccines is given by injection rather than oral ingestion only makes the exposure levels worse because Grier et al. showed that the distribution of foreign particles in mice reached several logs higer concentration in organs following intraveneous or intramuscular injection than via oral ingestion." Mark Geier, MD, PhD, 'Thimerosal in Childhood Vaccines, Neurodevelopmental Disorders and Heart Disease in the United States, Grier et al back to top Adjuvants and Auto-Immune Disease "What's terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients called immune adjuvants (such as squalene) that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus... What most people don't know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks after vaccination-these kinds of reactions may take months or years to manifest." Russell Blaylock, MD, Neurosurgeon, 'Vaccine May Be More Dangerous than Swine Flu', 7/17/09 "According to a recent review... most newer adjuvants including MF-59, ISCOMS, QS21, ASO2 and ASO4 have “substantially local reactogenicity and systemic toxicity..." Dr. Mae Wan Ho, Geneticist and Dr. Joe Cummins, Professor Emeritus, University of Western Ontario, 'Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine Under Fire' "Squalene is a natural substance found in most plants and animals. Your body uses it to help synergize cholesterol as well as vitamin D... However, when commerical squalene is injected, the body identifies it as threat and creates antibodies to attack it... In fact, when scientists from Tulane University tested blood samples from vets suffering Gulf War Syndrome, they found that 100% of them had abnormal antibodies to squalene... Syptoms of GWS were subtle to start: headaches, fatigue, generalized aches and pains... this is what worries me about the H1N1 vaccube... Reactions can take years to appear making it difficult to connect the dots." Allan Spreen MD, Senior Member, Health Sciences Institute Advisory Panel, Baltimore MD, 'Serious Reasons to Skip the H1N1 Vaccine Part II.' "This adjuvant (squalene) contributed to the cascade of reactions called Gulf War Syndrome documented in soldiers in the Gulf War... The symptoms they developed included: arthritis, fibromyalgia, lupus erythematosus, ALS, chronic fatigue, neuropsychiatric problems, seizures, chronic headaches,, memory loss, anti-thyroid effects, rashes..." Viera Scheibner, PhD, Vaccine Researcher "In animal studies of oil-based (vaccine) adjuvants in rats, the animals were rendered crippled and paralyzed. Squalene brought on severe arthritis symptoms in rats, and studies in humans given from 10-20 ppb(parts per billion) of squalene showed severe impact and development of autoimmune disorders." Dr. Joe Cummins, Professor Emeritus, University of Western Ontario and Dr. Mae Wan Ho, Geneticist, 'Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine Under Fire'
  22. 4,250% Increase in Fetal Deaths Reported to VAERS After Flu Shot Given to Pregnant Women Documentation received from the National Coalition of Organized Women (NCOW) states that between 2009 and 2010 the mercury-laden combined flu vaccinations have increased Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting Systems (VAERS) fetal death reports by 4,250 percent in pregnant women. Eileen Dannemann, NCOW’s director, made abundantly clear that despite these figures being known to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the multiple-strain, inactivated flu vaccine containing mercury (Thimerosal) has once again been recommended to pregnant women as a safe vaccination this season. Taken from here http://vactruth.com/2012/11/23/flu-shot-spikes-fetal-death/ The VAERS system is a passive reporting system, so probably massively under-records adverse events. People who organise after they, or their children have been damaged however are probably worth listening to. And Rami as for 'raging' I don't know what you mean. Some posters here seem to assume there is nothing wrong, medical science has it all covered etc.. - what I attempted to point out is that if even the basics such as cleaning hospitals properly - or not prescribing anti-biotics unless they are absolutley necessary, then things are far from allright. Are vaccines becoming like anti-biotics, are they being over prescribed - are they really all necessary? Would money be far better spent cleaning hospitals and equipment properly?
  23. Oh and I do have to say I find what you've written here just wonderfully ironic: "Some people actually bother to go through the stats and pick out the data". And you then link to this web site: The Whale Thanks for sending us the link - when I'm next interested in looking into The Reign of Evil, The Cult of Authority, Symbology, All seeing eye, Satanic horn, Psychopathy, Satanism, Reptilians, State Genocide, War Inc I'll definitely consider using The Whale to gather some data, but if I'm looking for people bothering to actually to through the stats and pick out the data from VAERS, then I think I'll go here. Thanks, I didn't realise there was so much other interesting stuff on that website - I'll have a closer look later. Oh and yeah, of course the adverse reactions could be coincidence, but then again I guess the vaccine companies are wealthy enough to pay for studies that could be weighted in their favour - but that would surely never happen would it haha? Vaccines kill people, and or seriously harm them - it says so on the side effects inserts in all vaccines. Dirty hospitals kill people. Over prescription of anti-biotics for things like earache are about to unleash an apocolypse of uncontrollable disease, why was this allowed to happen? But no, don't worry scientists are there, all will be well trust them, and trust everything they say. The system works, nothing is broken. The economy will be fine, people are healthy, there's no sickness, disease, cancer, diabetes, autism or anything else, modern medicine has cured all ills. Nothing to see here, go back to sleep.
  24. Vaccines do have serious side effects, and do cause deaths. Not in everyone who takes them of course but those that are trying to downplay the risks, or outright deny them would probably be interested to look at the US Federal reporting system VAERS - Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System : http://vaers.hhs.gov/about/index Since 1990 VAERS has received over 200,000 reports of 'adverse events', true many of these are mild, but others are not and include hospitalisations, disability, life threatenting illness and deaths. I guess it is equally true that a lot of 'adverse events' don't even end up on the system for whatever reason. Some people actually bother to go through the stats and pick out the data. Check out the following page for some further info and the image below shows what they pulled on the HPV vaccine as of August 2012 from VAERS: http://www.whale.to/...ers_deaths.html Vaccines, hmm yes in some instances I guess they can and have been effective. But are they all safe and necessary - I doubt it.
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