It's a shame you feel like this, but just because there's been infighting in the past, doesn't mean there will be in the future. Have to agree with you about some of the bolt placements seeming a bit strange (why the one at Laxey right next to a slab which you can get a bomber sling around?) bu that's really something a group should decide on, which is why we need a meeting place for all the Islands climbers. I wasn't intending regular weekly meetings, more like a once monthly event, in which climbers can meet other local based climbers, exchange routes, Beta, maybe get more partners and we can debate issues such as placement of bolts, or their removal, and also a pressure group on the government for a wall maybe?