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  1. I agree that the EU is a modern construct, however, the European people are not. I stand by my assertion that the "British" are not as isolated and homogeneous as you make out. I stand by my assertion that if your argument is sovereignty then the nations which make up the UK should also have a right to a sovereign Government rather than being ruled over by Westminster. I find it interesting that many who campaigned against Scotland leaving the UK also campaigned for the UK to leave the EU. Don't even get me started on those who said that if Scotland left the UK it would have to leave the EU which was not in its interests... There is so much hypocrisy and personal power plays going on that the interests of the general population are being forgotten and trampled on.
  2. What the hell? I am trying to help you present a coherent argument and asking if you understand the technical detail you have copied and pasted. Your childish little outburst really confirms that you do not understand it. I appreciate that you have concerns over 5G and that is fine but you need to understand the subject before you can preach about it.
  3. Richard is not being lazy. We want to know that you understand what you have copied and pasted. I could copy of paste pages on Quantum Dynamics and Chaos Theory whilst not understanding one word of it yet say that it supports my argument that the sky is falling down. If you are going to post technical details you should be able to interpret what is being said.
  4. I am sure that will be the case. Especially if they ever found a record of the Flat Earth movement...
  5. I am saying that national borders are nothing but lines drawn on a map. Why should we not start to forget about border lines on a map and start to concentrate on how we can work closely together to improve this planet which we share with billions of others. Of course we should learn about our history and we should be impressed with the developments that have taken place but we should also consider them successes (or failures in some cases) of all humanity. It is very rare to find an advancement that was isolated to one single place. People all over the world evolved and developed the same or slightly different solutions to the problems they encountered. These were then shared, copied or stolen as international movement increased. I just do not like this rise in tribalism - whether it be at a local or national level - and certainly do not want to see another cold war or god help us a global conflict. I see Brexit as a symptom rather than a cause of rising nationalism and whilst I am not overly concerned about the UK going to war I do look at the posturing between countries such as China, Russia, USA and North Korea with some concern. And for what purpose? Because they somehow believe that a line on a map is important? That there "shared experiences" somehow make them better than anyone else? I am sure you will think I am a citizen of nowhere. I would argue I am a citizen of Earth, a Human who believes that we need to learn from the past and build a better future. I most certainly do not want a return to multinational tension and war where the only victors are the wealthy.
  6. When did that distinct British identity emerge? 1066? 1415? 1485? 1603? 1945? 1966? Life on these islands has always involved invasions, immigration and emigration and if you want to go along the genetic route I could point out to the ancestors of all human life and say that this plus the other factors I have just mentioned trumps your argument that Britain is somehow isolated from other genetic influences. Today we have plenty of people born in the UK to mixed race parents, or to British and Polish, British and French parents etc etc. Boris Johnson even has Turkish ancestry and yet is busy trumpeting what it means to be British. We share plenty of things in common with our European neighbours, including much of our supposedly British culture and language. Fish and Chips? Created in 1860 in London by a Jewish immigrant. How many words in English originate from French & German? Restaurant, Cafe, Abseil, Doppelganger.. Your argument is straying dangerously close to eugenics.
  7. So you would also agree that you have a shared history with France, Germany and Scandinavian countries based on that...
  8. And yet that precious British DNA has been mixed with Viking, Roman, Norman, Celtic and Saxon and a whole host of other cultures intertwined. We may live on a group of Islands but we are not that far removed from our European neighbour's. Your argument is only valid over a limited historical period.
  9. Funny thing is that the UK Government often adds to the EU directives on employment rights. Examples include; Paid Annual Leave: EU Min: 4 weeks. UK Min: 5.6 weeks. Paid Maternity Leave: EU Min: 14 weeks. UK Min: 39 weeks. The UK has also updated it's own legislation from time to time to incorporate EU directives, for example, the Equality Act which consolidated legislation and case law that had existed in the UK as well as some EU directives. Of course good old Nigel Farage blames the EU for giving additional rights to UK workers so there are a lot of people who seem to think that the EU is dictating employment law to the UK.
  10. Were the people of Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales manipulated into accepting Westminster as being a superior authority outside of their own countries? Do those countries not have a right to a "sovereign" Government and not to be ruled by a "foreign" power? I can understand that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has been around for a lot longer than the EU. I can even understand the argument that we are "stronger together" but I still find it contradictory that many in favour of leaving the EU also believe in maintaining the United Kingdom and rule from Westminster. Surely if you are in favour of self-governance and independent nations then Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland & England should be separate countries in their own right and not governed from a central seat of power? I sometimes wonder if the EU was based in London rather than Brussels if the UK population would feel differently towards the EU....
  11. Would those be the same British Courts presided over by Judges that the Daily Mail branded "Enemies of the People"? I realise you don't necessarily share that view but the Daily Mail were an organisation that heavily promoted the leave argument so branding British Judges in such a way is hardly supportive of returning the final say to the UK courts. Most of the legislation we have in the UK has been introduced by UK Governments. The EU generally has focused on regulatory alignment and sometimes that means that the ECJ needs to make a ruling that encompasses every member state. What I hope we really avoid is having the leading Judges appointed by the Government. The US model is worrying indeed...
  12. May I introduce you to the former Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, Mr Dominic Raab. The below are taken from http://dominicraab.com/ "Dominic was appointed Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union. He resigned on 15 November 2018." "I want to strengthen your democratic voice – including by delivering on the EU referendum and through greater local democracy." That is a "brexiteer" who was responsible for running the negotiations with the EU before he resigned from in disgust at the deal he had overseen!! What does that mean? It is a bit like a vague mission statement. What will the UK be able to do following leaving the EU that it cannot do now?
  13. Right there... Now I appreciate that the two examples I gave you may have been unintended consequences of the decision to leave the EU, however, I would argue that a vote for leave was a vote for the unknown. The Tory party are now looking to take control of Parliament undermining its sovereignty. The General Election following the EU referendum was hardly a resounding mandate for the Tory party and now they are changing their leadership - and as a result the Prime Minister - yet the wider population of the UK will be given no say on the matter. That is surely then undermining democracy in the UK? Everyone's favourite toad, Nigel Farage, has been trying to "hop" onto the negotiating team despite not being an MP nor his party having any MP's. That is of course ignoring the fact that the EU are remaining resolute and saying that there will be no renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement. And to reiterate a tired question for those in favour of the UK leaving, what are you looking forward to the UK doing after it leaves the EU that it could not do before?
  14. Candidates for the leadership of the Tory Party have been suggesting shutting down Parliament in order to force through a "no deal" brexit. That same leadership race will lead to the UK having a new Prime Minister. The only people who will have had a say in this are Tory party members. Could you please explain how either of these are examples of the UK restoring parliamentary democracy and national sovereignty? Increasingly the future of the UK is being guided, if not decided, by a minority.
  15. As you may have guessed I did grow up whilst Thatcher was in power but really most of that passed me by because of my age. Really my vague interest in UK politics would have started with "Spitting Image" but it was still something that was happening over there as opposed to really effecting me. I remember the Major Government and his struggles with the anti-EU members of the Tory party but my life was most impacted by the Blair years. That was while I was at University in the UK and when I did vote in UK elections. I suppose my experience in those years was not as polarising as the lifelong Tories or Labourites. Then again perhaps I am just good at stepping back and weighing up the positives and negatives of each party. If I was voting in the UK now I would be looking at the Greens or Lib Dems - I know some on here would be aghast at the prospect of either of those parties being in power but I think both would be better than the current Labour or Tory alternatives.
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