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  1. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Look technology and our attitude to risk has changed. The technology we have now is far more advanced than was used for the Apollo missions, however, at the same time it is far more vulnerable to radiation and electro magnetic fields. Imagine the reaction if we decided to send people to the moon with technology from the 1960s/70s. The challenge is to make space travel safer and more acceptable and having the circuitry fry is not going to cut it.
  2. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Yes, they risked the lives of the Astronauts because the US was locked in a space race with Russia. The US did not want to lose. Did you not notice how many people on the Apollo programme were from military backgrounds? Once the cold war ended the political desire to fund further moon missions and risk lives faded. Focus was shifted to the shuttle programme and more and more non military personnel went into orbit to conduct experiments and learn about the effects of space exploration and micro gravity. Now when looking at moon missions they can not take the same risks. The public would react very differently to a loss of life. The bottom line though is that there is no political desire to fund more missions to the moon. Mars? Maybe and that may just be what gets us back to the moon as it would offer a better starting point than the Earths surface.
  3. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    @manxy Would you care to comment on the photograph of the basketball I posted earlier? Would you agree that the surface of the basketball looks flat, however, the "horizon" looks very similar to what we see in the natural world? (Imagine the lumps as being the hills/mountains of the Earth if it helps). If you agree that the surface of the basketball can look flat if viewed from a certain perspective then do you must surely also concede that the Earth viewed from our perspective on the surface would also look flat? Have you tried the experiment I suggested using a model globe and a camera? It is a simple set up and you can see for yourself how the distance from the surface would change the apparent size and shape of the continents. Again if you do this experiment would you concede that the distance of the satellites from the Earth will effect how the continents look on a photograph? You also asked about the movement of storm systems on the Earth as seen from space. Again, please remember that you are talking about vast distances. You can stand outside and look at a low cloud and you will notice its movement across the sky. If you look at a distant cloud or one at a higher altitude that movement becomes less noticeable. Now imagine doing that at thousands of kilometres away. Similarly people often comment that satellites are not visible on the photographs of Earth taken in orbit but please bear in mind that satellites are around the size of a car. From what distance would you be able to clearly identify a car? If you have been in an aircraft think about what altitude you reach before you are unable to identify a single car. I also asked you to consider how a ship would navigate Antarctica on a globe vs on a flat earth with ice walls. If ice walls exist then ships would have to make course corrections to keep away from the ice (apart from navigating around any outcrops or inlets). On a globe ships would make course corrections towards the ice (again with the same exceptions apply to outcrops and inlets). The distances involved would also be significantly different. There is a race around Antarctica organised by non-governmental bodies so you could check with them, however, if you do not trust them then there is no international treaty that would stop you travelling their on a ship and actually doing it for yourself (I know its expensive and we all have other things going on in our lives). Finally, water, like everything else on the Earth is effected by a multitude of factors including gravity which shapes how it behaves. Of course we cannot attach water to the surface of, for arguments sake, a basket ball and make it behave as it does on the Earth. Why? Because the mass of the Earth is greater than the mass of the basketball and therefore it applies much more force to the water than the basketball. Have you seen how water behaves in a low-gravity environment? All I ask is that you try the two experiments I have suggested and consider how that fits with the world you see around you. Give some though to the other comments I have made and think about which "model" fits better. I am not saying that any of this proves that the Earth is an oblate sphere, however, it should at least make you aware that perspective is important and that what we see can often be "false".
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    Doctor Who

    I admit I never really watched the "old" Doctor Who and only started watching with Christopher Ecclestone as the Doctor although I would classify David Tennant as "my Doctor". Since then I have continued to enjoy the series and have even gone back and started to watch the older series. Jodie Whittaker has, in my opinion, brought a new dynamic to the character and really freshened things up. I really enjoyed the first episode and thought it actually had some real menace at times. It certainly did not feel like any of the more recent episodes.
  5. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Is the basketball round or flat?
  6. manxman1980

    So the UK is finished says Theresa Mayhem

    Not entirely sure that is what you meant....
  7. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Wow! That really got under your skin didn't it? Actually my musical taste is very eclectic but I think Eminem has had a major influence during his career and along with Snoop Dogg went a long way to bringing rap into the mainstream (I am not inclined to include Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer in that). Personally I find Eminem more accessible than other artists of that genre. Don't think I have not noticed your reply to my other comment by the way. I am just not at a stage where I feel the need to track back through 288 pages to quote you on every time you have demonstrated the behaviours and views I listed. I certainly have asked you openly on at least two occasions that I recall about what your view/theory is on the shape of the earth? I do not recall getting a response so perhaps you could either post your theory or go back and quote yourself where you answered that very simple question. Yes, we know why. It is because we cannot replicate an object with enough mass and gravity to replicate what water does on the Earth because it would need to be close to the size of the Earth itself. Why don't you and manxy arrange a trip around Antarctica? You could lease a ship or find an organised trip and monitor the distance the ships travels around the continent. You would also be able to prove the "Ice Wall" theory. If the Earth is a globe then to circumnavigate Antarctica the ship will have to make constant course corrects towards the ice. If the Earth is flat then the ship will have to make constant course corrections away from the "Ice Walls".
  8. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    @manxy any thoughts on my post earlier?
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    Flat Earth?

  10. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Most flat earth models cannot explain gravity and they try and explain this by reference to magnetism and buoyancy whilst totally being unable to understand either of these concepts.
  11. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    The photographs are taken by different satellites at different distances from the Earth. You can replicate this effect yourself by taking photographs of a model globe at different distances. You will see that the reason the continents appear to change size is due to perspective and how much of the Earth can actually been seen from the cameras. Let's assume that there are antarctic ice walls could you explain why the Antarctica Cup Ocean Race is 14,000 nautical miles long? If the world was flat then that distance would have to be much greater wouldn't it? That race is independent of any Government and as far as I am aware any can enter. I am sure that there are other more experienced mariners on this forum who could explain how the course corrections needed on a globe and those on a flat earth would be very different. Equally you would not be able to fake the course corrections so this would be easily verifiable for anyone with the resources to make the trip. Thanks, it's not mine but I think neatly shows that water does not always behave how we expect it to.
  12. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Water finds a level.... also water; aR1w12M_460svvp9.webm
  13. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Paul's got it wrong, what do you get out of this? You have no horse in the alleged race but you claim an interest in science. When presented with scientific experiments and science you dismiss it as a "religious belief". Even Gerry, who started the thread and whom you regularly cite, has conceded that Flat Earth models cannot explain a lot of what we see around us. I, like Chinahand, have enjoyed learning of different experiments and frankly I was surprised about how far back it was in human history that we started to understand the size and shape of the Earth. Like most people I had thought it was the explorers like Magellan that had changed the view of the world when the nature of the planet was widely understood before then. The psychology of those who deny all scientific evidence intrigues me which is why I return to this thread. You seem different to most in that you dispute the very nature of science. You don't seem to care if the world is flat or a globe.
  14. manxman1980

    Flat Earth?

    Just scan or photograph your report and post it up as evidence otherwise your expect me to accept your "quotes" with no evidence. Proving your school report actually exists should be simple....
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    So the UK is finished says Theresa Mayhem

    Don't despair we are going to get a Festival of Brexit Britain in 2022!
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