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Compared to the other stuff living hope has done this is small-fry but it pisses me off so I'm going to piss you lot off too by sharing it They advertise "Open Mic" nights around the island. At the Creek for example or at one of the coffee places in Castletown. "Come along to an evening of fun, music, talent and good coffee" they say. "Whether you're musical or just after an evening out with friends/family we'd love to welcome you" they say. In fact, they say, "We will have a keyboard, guitar, cajon drum and microphones set up. Anything from country, to classical, to popular music or spoken word - all are welcome to showcase their talent during this family friendly evening!" What I friggin well say is- If you're an aspiring musician then Open Mic nights are a good chance to perform in front of an audience aren't they? And if you just like a cheap night out then they can be good to go along to, can't they? So you go along, unaware that the music you're expecting is actually fishbait. Because beware! This is Living Hope and they don't give a shit about your burgeoning talent or your hopes of a good night out. No. They are ONLY interested in preaching at you and converting you! So here's a Facebook account of what actually happened at the Open Mic from the "pastor", afterwards: "Excellent Open Mic night at Coffee Republic in Castletown. So good to hear testimonies of God doing amazing things. Heard the good news of Jesus. Epic poems, wonderful new talent." Ok so I didn't go. I already know that I'm talentless and I already know not to get within a mile of any living hope event even (especially?) when they're dressing it up as being only for fun. But some people won't be as cynical as I am and that is what this cult is relying on. Some people will go to those events expecting music and a chance to shine and will end up being told that they are sinners and doomed and that the only solution is to join those happy clappers and get rid of all their existing friends and hand over their cash so that living hope can buy more friggin cajon drums. what is a cajon drum anyway There. Are you pissed off now too?

There are loads of reasons why LH is not a normal, anodyne church. One is that it encourages its followers to see the world in terms of "them" and "us". Members of LH are told that anyone who does not attend LH is broken and immoral and to be pitied. Being told that isolates people and makes them afraid to ever leave the smug comfort of the group. They are told to mistrust modern life, modern science, politics, philosophy, anything that's not the bible! Andrew Selley who is the South African that Stanfield takes advice from posted the following on FB recently: ""The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers..."(2 Corinthians 4:4). This is why educated, intelligent people cannot see what is obvious and why they believe alternate theories to what is plain to us who belong to Christ! A few observations... 1) if you believe that the world has a better grip on what is right in some instances than the church, and you are embarrassed, feel the Church is outdated or disagree with the Church on these issues-then you are probably also blinded. 2)If your Christian belief has become more tolerant, gender neutral, less 'judging' and more "cool" to your friends in the world, then you are likely blinded as your thinking is the same as the followers of the god of this age and they therefore embrace you. 3) Be careful of following popular modern trends, thoughts and ideologies. 4) The main tool for the god of this age is the secular media, secular globalist leaders, fake science and rebel Christians. Recognize where blindness comes from and be cautious when engaging. 5) stay safe-it is a powerful delusion working by a powerful spirit that will "lead the whole world astray"(Revelation 12:9)." Basically, organisations like LH promote separation and mistrust and use them as tools to disempower their members.

Who the hell eats sausage rolls for breakfast, even if they are free-ish?! The breakfast advertised in the link is organised by South African Andrew Selley (Jonathan Stanfield's close friend and advisor). Note that they're going to discuss Hate Speech at the breakfast. The South African government has proposed legislation that makes it an offence to use speech that may incite hatred. (No, i have no idea either how they are going to police that law or how they're going to define hatred or prove that someone's words caused the hatred but read on...) You may assume that a godly man like Selley would be in favour of a law that could result in there being less hate in the world but no! He has set up an organisation (called FORSA) to try to stop the law from being brought in. The reason? Because he's worried it will stop christians from being able to quote the bible. Yes, that's right, not only is Selley fully aware that the bible contains noxious, divisive, judgemental and hatred-inspiring words...those are the parts that he particularly wants a special dispensation to be able to preach.

When the congregation was asked for money to buy the big house for the pastor, the account that the money was going into was in the names of Nakos and Nelson. Even if there was no wrong-doing going on when they took the money for the house, you'd think they'd know better just from the point of view of how it looks than to put a (soon to be disqualified) former director of a company whose financial dealings were "tainted with illegality" in charge of presumably unrecorded, anonymous donations that were solicited with promises of heavenly afterlife.

No. I'm not. Not sure how to prove that to you. Shall we just get back to the topic of the thread?!

The comment that got removed wasn't me! I just (lazily!) copy pasted its summary of the article.

"A pastor at the Living Hope church has been forced to quit as a director after admitting unfit conduct over his role in the collapsed Louis Group Isle of Man." Would you trust your eternal soul (and a good proportion of your money) to this lot?!! When they're not getting money out of their supporters by threatening them with curses and hellfire, they're mismanaging money given handed over in good faith (scuse the pun) by investors. http://m.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/limited-supplies-of-the-manx-independent-in-the-shops-1-8330208#comments

The bank account the money was paid into was at Barclays and the account was called Nakos Nelson re Holly Cottage. Nakos was a director at Louis Group. Nelson is a director at Barclays.