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  1. For someone who doesn't teach in DESC or Music Service Manxman you sure do seem to know a lot about this kind of thing. I do respect your previous posts and agree with a lot of what you have said.........particularly griping continually about teachers.......like a lot of professions they have had to deal with massive change in the delivery of lessons and assessment. The survey appears to highlight discontent in the teaching staff not only in Music Service but many other schools, something that agreed needs followed up to ascertain whether this is a genuine cause for concern or just a gripe/group personal vendetta at a person in charge. How do you realistically gain an insight therefore into the genuineness of such a damning report into management confidence.........surely independant assessment? Is that not what guarantees a neutral approach? Internal follows up are too connected to personalities and mates, (ie, if there has been long outstanding issues that HR or senior leaders have been aware off, have they been addressed by the Director etc. or just passed over) just saying, but if it affects the operational output of a department/school then the reason why needs sorted and learnt from. This is a really basic thing.
  2. You’re having a laugh if you’re referring to music service are you? Evidence would be in a full independent inspection, but from what info I can see that hasn’t happened for years. And with this resultant survey would that not now be necessary?
  3. Sorry Stu. This new report has nothing to do with whether the individual efforts at getting some enjoyment out of music is a valiant goal. It’s to do with teachers being happy in the workplace. Instigated by government and now showing some very concerning workplace environments if to be believed…..will anything be done about it? I humbly ask that you find out?
  4. Quote from article ”The Music Service consistently recorded the worst scores, ranking bottom for staff confidence in management decision making, management being aware of the challenges faced by stafff, senior management being honest in their communication with staff, team management and overall happiness at work.” I’m sure their manager is delighted at the staff who have supported their efforts….
  5. Interesting article relevant to the post. https://gef.im/2022/01/05/how-happy-are-our-teachers/
  6. Oh, you really are in the know Mr Fairfax.............perhaps a few teachers would be able to confirm this And could it be perhaps that this expected arrival could allow the use of the teachers that 'can' for observations and others disappear into the broom cupboard........heaven forbid
  7. The problem with exit interviews (and handy for hr departments) is that the information gained in relation to issues regarding employment, including things like performance, expected workload, or bullying and harassment is then swept under the carpet, if felt it’s not in the better good to expose shortcomings of the department hq, heads or leaders...... It seems a toxic system that in some instances unfortunately promotes staff, rather than deal with those who are incapable of doing the job they signed up for just to get them out of the way......just look at the list of “leaders” in the department hq, and in schools, and a lot of teachers could provide some interesting background into their “promotion” to heights of being advisors to people on the chalk face, with little evidence of outstanding data in their own practice, but yet HR will defend them from issues no matter what, unless off course you’ve exposed something that needs you removed.......then see what happens! I recall one head teacher that this happened to a few years back, was demoted and then sent out to graze!!! Cloaks and daggers. Beamans exposed this from my reading, but only loosing one of the “leaders” doesn’t change a system! Good luck to Mr Kincade, he’s a job on his hands, but only time will tell if he’s up for change and accountability, not as apparently happened of the report with harassment of staff with silly badgering of new methodologies.
  8. This is refreshing to see. Seems quite an experienced fella and a good idea. Free lessons and instruments. Bit of a no brainer if you’ve young ones looking a new hobby..... https://www.manx.net/tv/mt-tv/watch/88719/isle-of-man-brass-academy Well done in giving something back to the community and he’s a qualified teacher too.
  9. DrunkenMonkey, just had a brief look at your profile and interestingly the majority of your comments are in regards to education, and quite a few trying to refute my discussions...........it would appear that you think you know quite a bit about the subject, so perhaps your continuous harping on about what job I was turned down for has unfortunately no relevance, as I can assure you I have never been turned down for a job Sorry to disappoint. The speculation you refer to is another opportunity to try to downgrade what is widely known as concerns in the level of attainment evident now compared to a few years back, so keep plugging away as it is obviously an uncomfortable topic for you to deal with. Are you still teaching the guitar or flute?? You ask: If the answer to all of the above questions relating to moderation and training was "yes, all exams are moderated and training is given", would you still feel this worked up? The answer to the above is "yes", (except for the fact that certificates of attainment referring to grades may be illegal) but I hazard a very educated guess that this is not the case. To simply send in a FOI request is a complete waste of time, as it would not push any agenda for change unless the powers that be took observations and issues of this and other things in regards to accountability, costs and capability highlighted in the Beaman's Report etc. into hand. There again on a wider reference this is not only a music service issue and the whole structure of Education is questionable and does appear even from reading the Beaman's report to suggest that this simply hides the reality of pupil assessment if not properly and impartially moderated and teaching practice, with many capable headteachers suggesting the SIA's were not working within the expected role they were employed to do (see below). These are some snap points provided by the Beamans Report: Governing Boards: Apart from one or two notable exceptions, the role of governing boards in Isle of Man schools is weak. Governing boards play a pivotal role in governance and should be responsible for overseeing and holding to account the leadership and management side of a school. Education Improvement Service: The role of EIS is conflicted. School Improvement Advisers (SIAs) are expected to provide advice to the School Leadership Team whilst being accountable for the school evaluation (SSRE) process which judges how well the school is performing. Director of Education: The Director is line manager of 37 headteachers and the Principal of UCM. The Director is also accountable for EIS including line manager of 5 SIAs, and also acts as SIA to one primary and one secondary school. Rarely have we seen a role whose remit and responsibilities are this extensive. Put simply, the remit of the role makes no sense from an organisational, management or governance perspective. However, in our view, the most significant weakness in the present arrangements is not management or organisational it is cultural. Independent review and inspection to be managed and co-ordinated by the department. More widely, with responsibility for evaluating performance now resting elsewhere, the Directors and their teams responsible for the provision of Education Advisory Services and Education Support Services can focus on working in collaboration with headteachers to deliver those services without any conflict of interest or requirement to judge the performance of schools or headteachers. We now turn to the issue of regulation and inspection. In our view, it will be for the board of Manx Education to determine what mechanisms it wants to put in place to provide assurance to the Minister that there is confident and strong strategic leadership in place and robust accountability, oversight and assurance of schools’ educational and financial performance. Education Advisory Service – under this approach the SIA will not have any inspection role but will focus on assisting and supporting the headteacher in their school improvement work. Neither will the SIA have any line management role of education support staff (as they do at the moment) but will focus solely on their advisory role Somebody else noticed the accountability issue too DrunkenMonkey......................
  10. Ok, two issues here. The first is, the exams are being held by the department, and the examiners are teachers within the service from grades 1-4 as previously discussed. So a woodwind teacher's student is perhaps being examined by a guitar teacher or the other woodwind teacher. Is there a moderation of this either internally or externally to ensure that this grading is correct (if we check quick enough there maybe isn't, but there may be some scrambling as we speak to ensure that some sort of document can covers this now), and what training has been provided to those 'examiners' to ensure that the guidelines of assessment of a grade 1 player for example meets the requirements of ABRSM or Trinity. But has this ever been checked by an advisor? or would the advisor even have a clue about this sort of thing if they taught another subject.... This is how they then provide I guess statistics as to teacher assessment and capability.... kinda like producing your own set of rules and signing off against it. I don't know the answer to this, but I'm sure an MHK or freedom of request could help. Second, the exams are ran as far as I am aware directly copying the exam boards as discussed above, including recommended pieces and the structure of tests. Has it ever occurred to the department that these professional bodies may hold proprietary rights to the structure and content of these exams. so if a certificate is issued stating that a child is say a grade 2, is this a theft of ownership or copyright of someone else's certification?
  11. It seems to be an idea which the service share as good for struggling families who cannot afford to put their children in due to the financial cost of an exam. It’s not like we really struggle here though is it compared to the UK. But the cost should be no more than £40 for grade 1 going up to £100 for grade 8. Conveniently though this allows statistics to be based on totally their own assessment and you’re right roger this appears to be common across many occupations....... But again it’s much more than all of that, are there a lot of things that failures of management in things like recruitment, suitability etc. want to hide in the running of this and other unaccountable departments.... let’s see if the new ceo can start to ask the appropriate questions and clear the dirt out with a massive brush...
  12. Well done Helix, and the proportion of pupils who sit grades above that from the service are??? I don't know the figures and can't find out as nothing is published, but as I said, it wouldn't take a lot to find out for those who can access... Plus I'm sure music teachers in schools would be a good source of info on the numbers they get for GCSE and A level through the service, although under the current setup they're probably scared to say anything! Not having a go, but there is little point in contacting the DOE at present when it is still without change, and the general consensus from the concerned musicians brigade is that it must be saved at all cost for the good of music......... but is the system for the good of music and how do they know? I would say there's a fair few who know exactly what I'm talking about, but are scared to raise their head above the parapet......
  13. Oh and can you provide me with any detail as to the last time the Service was externally moderated officially.........not through a mate who happens to be an advisor in the department?
  14. Are you sure about your sweeping statement?............. accountability can only be measured if the person observing actually does their job.........hence why the Beamans report highlights this!
  15. None, Banker spot on.........the soothsayers above make great efforts to defend the undefensible. The link to abrsm im is simply a link..........not at all what I'm talking about.... How many Music students do lower grades with them from DOE, FIND THE STATS ANDY and prove me wrong, and in that case, what proportion of numbers 'sitting' exams actually come through this DOE system. I would gamble at least 90% of students don't do ABRSM exams in the DOE system and of the others who do, they would significantly come through external organisations, volunteers, who teach and do a good job in progressing their pupils to higher achievements.
  16. The realisation that we have 'teachers' of the department of education, who have no accountability other than providing their own statistics, manipulated to their own agenda to make them look good, by assessing their own exams for the majority of pupils................. UK Music departments enter students for independent music exams (ABRSM, Trinity etc) but the IOM system seems happy to get their teaching colleague Service mates to assess pupils and then gloat about how many have passed in the local press. This is not a cynical reflection on pupil endeavours but rather the system itself, which seems to pass students no matter how bad it goes, to 'encourage' them, and perhaps if an independent external examiner was used we may get a more accurate system of achievement....... and certainly something more reflective of assessment of teacher achievement. I previously mentioned I had been in conversations where this has been highlighted by other music teachers/ musicians. Seems like a great gig. But then same teachers seem to not want to get involved in school extra curricular stuff as they are following union guidelines of action short of strike. Seems an appropriate cause of concern to me? AndyOnchan prove me otherwise. Hopefully, someone in power will have the ability and interest to find out, but there again it'll be interesting to see if the new broom will quickly just sit back and let things simply 'carry on, nothing to see here', similiar to the response you seem so intent on doing AndyOnchan.
  17. Yes I’ve heard this too. Extra curriculum stuff Is being discarded and for some staff it seems fine..... unless off course there is overtime paid to cover things like Staff teaching students at Manx youth orchestra...... now there doesn’t seem to be the same issue.......wonder why????
  18. Whatever happened to common sense.... Bullying allegations, now throwing the dummy out because they can’t get their own way, like a little crying child...oh wait.. No sympathy I’m afraid, had your offer, we have COVID now, tough luck. No sympathy and with very unregulated teacher performance it would appear in regards to what others have shared they have a cheek. There are quite a few departments and management that could do with being cleared out anyway, promoted to take them away from poor performance in teaching kids....
  19. This is great, I love that the assumption that a few mates agreeing to something together makes it right, so it provides an opportunity to bash my suggestion as wrong. ok, let’s go again: 1. Music is a good thing 2. no one said do away with it 3. my suggestion is it needs done differently... 4. The Music Service isn’t the only thing that needs to change post corona by the way! here’s a case study that helps us understand perhaps what by a google search has happened elsewhere. A success story no less! https://www.musicmark.org.uk/news/from-closure-to-creation-gareth-churcher-cornwall-music-service-trust/ No point in being nasty in reply back, so I’ll just keep sharing the idea, which seems very uncomfortable for a few obviously “associated” posters.
  20. Ermm read this drunkenmonkey, https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/education-sport-and-culture/education-improvement-service/school-self-review-and-evaluation-reports/ “In order to test out the judgements schools are making about themselves and ensure rigour and objectivity, a validator from an organisation called Graham Reeves Ltd then visits the school with an adviser from the Department of Education, Sport and Culture.” Jeepers and this company is from Bromley. Bet that ain’t cheap. https://www.grahamreeves.co.uk/contact No record of any inspection on there either.... Now where’s the drink....I am enjoying the replies. plus 20% is a figure off a website....... is it really that many??? Who knows apart from the dept as no public records available?
  21. No time Neil sorry, gotta feed the horses down on the prom, plus make some scones down in cregneash whilst teaching some Manx.... Wonder where red sky went? All of a sudden they disappear when asked when this service was last externally inspected???? Etc etc etc. Wonder which part they played/SANG in the video?
  22. Oops, seemed to have hit a bit nerve there..... no need to hurl insults as my view is something that perhaps will be agreed by many others in that there is need for a clear out of many who simply are not worth their money. No one is discounting the worth of music, but perhaps a different way of doing it, like setting up an independent service outside of govt, not including taking of taxes to pay for it, would be a better way of doing things. Since you know so much about this red sky how many kids do the service actually teach as a percentage of the whole school population?, when we’re they last inspected externally as teachers outside of an inside DEC monitoring system? (If that is what they are) and where have they been teaching? oh and by the way there are many organisations who do videos in their own time, non-argument.???? Over to you. Try to be a bit nicer though.
  23. I’ll just leave this here as an example of what our taxes are paying for. Nice sentiment, but is there an almost sneering look of satisfaction at the prospect of having 6 months off work on full pay........ ironic tune to be singing. https://youtu.be/5a4qZnRWHQY
  24. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=55480&headline=Cannan to seek extension to financial support&sectionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 fairly strong responses from the large majority of comments in the article asking why the civil servants aren’t taking a hit too and getting furloughed like everyone else......seriously are our teachers, MNH, tram workers council workers who are off at home really working? so maybe my original post was not a single view but as time has passed we can see things as they really are........ Here’s a couple of examples for those not bothered to read. I work in the private sector and haven't stopped working since Covid. I count myself lucky in many ways but I'm also working 11 -12 hour days from home so I think i'm earning my security. I work from home at my dining room table and have to watch my neighbour who works for Douglas Borough either gardening or sunbathing all day everyday. If i go out to hang out the washing I have to endure him bragging about doing zilch. It's not on and time it stopped It's also time to start considering furloughing hundreds of govt employees, such as in MNH, railways and other non-essential areas. The private sector should not be paying the price for this pandemic alone nor lacking financial support just to keep non-front line govt employees in clover. Also, it's time to switch to zero based budgeting and stop the likes of Longworth wasting money converting steam engines and diesel engines. Any payment over £5000 should be being approved/cleared by treasury and much larger expenditures being revisited by Tynwald.
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