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  1. It's almost as though HNWIs are attracted to us as a tax haven and not because they just love the horse trams.
  2. Absolutely. The border restrictions are tough for everyone, most people living here will have some family living in the UK or even further afield. I've not seen my kid for a year. I get why people want the borders to loosen and are desperate to find a way why it can happen and why anyone who says it can't is wrong. Keeping Covid out involves keeping people out. The more exemptions are issued, the more likely it is someone will come with Covid. And even if they stay locked up with it, that still presents risks and challenges to the island. And as we saw with the welder, the more people who come and come with Covid makes it more likely one will breach quarantine and spread it. We dodged a bullet with the Covid-positive welder not passing it on in the community, make no mistake. I want open borders as much as anyone, but until the adjacent island gets a grip it leaves us where we are. I don't see another way around it. We've had six months of domestic normality here, which is six months more normality than my parents in West Yorkshire have had.
  3. The issue with loosening the border is that, quite simply, the more people you allow on to the island the greater the risk that they will bring Covid with them. Pre-travel swabbing is simply not reliable, as Dr Ewart has repeatedly pointed out. So even if you quarantine, you won't know if someone has Covid until day 7 or day 13 tests. Which is an issue because they will be here with Covid. Even if they're locked up in a holiday cottage or a family home, they will still be here and they will still be here with Covid. And if they get sick they'll be clogging up one of our very few ICU beds. If we want more domestic freedom we need less freedom through the border. It really is that simple. That said, I've reliably heard that CoMin were ready to go to level 3 in late September, and got cold feet at the last second. Just as well, barely a couple of weeks later and the UK were already talking about lockdown again. As for the LinkedIn blog, something with that many factual errors in it simply can't be taken seriously.
  4. And if they didn't put the message out you'd get everyone mouthing off about how they're hiding important information from the public. Can't bloody win sometimes.
  5. MNH and NSC staff, for an example, haven't been furloughed because they've actually been redeployed on 111 and the Covid community line. Same as last time.
  6. Absolutely. No testing on exit was a mistake, because the virus can outlive quarantine. But those shouting loudest about this mistake are, by and large, those who were demanding shorter quarantines, more reliance on pre-travel testing which is wildly inaccurate, and allowing more people onto the island just because they happen to have a tangential link with the place.
  7. Not much. I think it we get 14 days clear they'll throw us a bone, then at 28 everything opens again. For all the complaining, we opened up faster than anyone expected last time, with HQ allowing the pubs to reopen with such little notice they didn't have enough beer to sell.
  8. There needs to be evidence that the transmission chain has been broken. It doesn't necessarily mean 14 days clear, but it does mean it needs to be 14 days where a new positive case only lives in the same household as an existing positive case. That sort of mopping up shouldn't delay things. That was always what was going to happen. Three weeks would have worked if the chain from the tapas place in Ramsey stopped quickly, but it didn't.
  9. I'm not sure there is a longer incubation period. I know Dr Glover floated the theory on Twitter but there wasn't much agreement from her colleagues. The hole in the quarantine was always groups coming back together. One contracts it across, bring it back and the rest contract it off them here, but all leave isolation together. Person A and B travel back together; person A got it across and would be fine on day 14, but person B might only be at day 7 of their infection when they leave quarantine. Day 13 testing would have caught person B. It also relied on people being honest about their symptoms, or indeed having symptoms. I do still wonder how many people are genuinely asymptomatic and how many just tell contact tracers that they were.
  10. It is if everyone who comes back as a group all come back with it. They got complacent and didn't factor in the fact that a group self-isolating together can pass it amongst themselves, so the 14 days wasn't enough. Especially not when people decide to ignore their symptoms and come out of isolation anyway. They were certainly too trusting of people to be honest. A shame as we saw that happened as long ago as February last year with the cruise ship in Japan.
  11. I think they simply didn't want to pay for it, and got complacent with the 14 days as the cheaper option. I don't think it was ever about the numbers or being Covid-free, as anyone sitting at home with it wouldn't really count anyway.
  12. I suppose the trouble with Twitter is it looks like you've gone nuclear, and nobody will back down once that happens. Very regrettable, on both sides to be fair, and we've lost important expertise as a result.
  13. It would be fascinating to know how CoMin voted on many of these issues. FWIW I think her pontificating on Twitter was unhelpful and caused others to double down on their position, making it even less likely they would change course. Although I can understand why she would feel frustrated, the endless joy of being an adviser is that your advice is not always heeded. And it wasn't an argument she was ever going to win, especially not doing it so publicly.
  14. Perhaps not, but that isn't "holding the island to ransom".
  15. I don't think Dr Glover has, at any stage, tried to "hold us to ransom". Quite the opposite, in fact. You may disagree with her opinion, or you may disagree with how she expresses it. But don't say things that aren't really true. Given her "spat" it's unsurprising that she's taking her chance to say she told them so. It's a shame the BBC press conference attendee isn't so robust when they get the chance to ask HQ directly.
  16. From what I can tell with the announcements, the current cases all seem to have come out of the issues on NYE in Ramsey. 1886 wasn't such an issue. The listed locations- Paparazzi early doors and the theatre for the panto, daytime Barbary Coast- screams a family out for the panto and a meal. So the risk of onward transmission is hopefully reduced. It's a shame exit testing wasn't brought in sooner, it would probably have stopped the Ramsey issue from happening. And it's not like professionals like Dr Glover said as much weeks beforehand.
  17. There is, for those who truly cannot get to the Grandstand any other way. But, as you can imagine, it is labour-intensive and time consuming to do it, so it is limited to the most vulnerable and isn't really advertised.
  18. Singapore is a country of 6m people. So yes, 40 people won't overload their system. How do you know? Well that's OK then, we may as well not bother with any of this. The more people who are allowed in, the greater the risk. It sucks not seeing family. But that's why the rules are as they are.
  19. "Adhering to testing and isolation" is fabulous. So long as they don't have it. But what if they do have it? Then we're in bother. As is anyone who went near them on the boat or especially on the plane. And what if they get really sick with it? We have 6 permanent ICU beds at Nobles, and about another 15 that can be pressed into action if needs be. And what we really don't need is for those beds to be clogged up with people who should have stayed at home on the adjacent island. I've not seen this Mars Bar delivery service. I'm not in any rush to use it. But if you pay online/by phone then they leave it on your doorstep then there's no issue at all. Window cleaners usually work in pairs. Gardeners could work safely, providing they went home to use the toilet.
  20. Window cleaners can't work in a socially distanced way and, if any of them fell off their ladder, would put strain on Nobles. I'm not sure where the wibble about Mars bars comes from. Shops can deliver food. Some of that food might be tasty. So what? There might be a point about takeaways, though. Flaming Great Ballakebabs isn't quite what I'd define as essential food. But if I did a big enough shop to last two weeks I would be hoarding, and have someone criticising that instead. Not to mention you can't get fresh food to last two weeks. Exercise? Those climbing Snaefell are idiots. Plantations? It's easier to socially distance there than it is on the narrow pavements of Douglas. Just wash your hands after touching gates. And lay off the high-speed mountain biking. All this from someone who thinks that we should all stop in our bedrooms to avoid risk, but then believes we should also just let anyone from Plague Island next door in if they're "family". Because that's absolutely definitely not how the current outbreak started.
  21. Once again you assume anyone who disagrees hasn't had any family difficulties. On the subject of being a dick, I mentioned my own family difficulties in a previous post. Your response was the "haha" emoji, because clearly me not seeing my kid for a year is fucking *hilarious*. My point was quite simple: you don't last long without food, you can last a long time without seeing family.
  22. You stay in your house without buying any food or drink. I'll stay in my house and not see my mum, but will go buy bread. Let's see who dies of starvation first.
  23. It's daft going up the hills because of the risk of injury and someone having to go fetch them. But let's face it, the wind at the top of Snaefell will blow all those Covid particles well away, so the risk there is tiny.
  24. I'm genuinely not sure what you're trying to argue now. Are you arguing for more restrictions, or fewer? Shopping for food and medicine is essential. Shopping for it every day probably isn't, but answers on a postcard on how you enforce that. I wouldn't want to judge whose food is essential and whose isn't. A period of exercise probably isn't essential, but the risk is tiny so meh. But all of these risks are small in comparison to importing Covid from the island next door. The risk- as has been so beautifully shown this week- is people coming from across and bringing it with them. Testing or no testing, that's the risk and that risk is rightly mitigated by not letting non-residents in. Look at what's happening on the adjacent island. Keeping people from there out is important. And unless it is an end-of-life situation, that's exactly how it should be.
  25. It is Public Health England who are responsible for distributing the vaccine and arranging for it to be couriered here.
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