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  1. 12 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

    But why was she championed by so many?

    An interesting question.

    Normally ”Manx Crabs” would have pulled her back.

    Maybe a time of crisis, one of our own, arguing against Government or talking in layman’s terms to her followers made her something of a celeb. 

    That became a double edge sword I believe as she was asked for her opinion on many things and gave exactly that. 



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  2. 26 minutes ago, Gladys said:

    Is she getting that information as a member of the advisory group?  In which case, she should be binned off it immediately as breaching confidentiality .

    I doubt the EAG is getting that info. Well outside their scope.


    Worryingly that she is getting not just numbers, but also ”who” (if she actually means names).

  3. 1 hour ago, Gladys said:

    When I first heard the news, my first conclusion wasn't Covid; it could be heart, stroke, cancer amongst many other things.  In fact, I made no connection to Covid. 

    But by that tweet, Dr G has made a connection for me. Is she basing it on some knowledge or just her own speculation?  Either way, it is pretty abhorrent firstly to make the connection, then to make a  further connection in how it may influence IOMG policy. 


    Same for me Gladys. Covid didn’t enter my mind. 

    As for Dr Gs tweet, at the end of the day it comes  down to ones values and integrity. 

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  4. 7 minutes ago, 2112 said:

    Then perhaps the PR bods in the IOMG who are supposed to be highly experienced and highly paid, would have had the intelligence and the foresight, along with common sense to do a press release that doesn’t lead to speculation or open to interpretation. 

    Most obituaries begin with ”after a short illness” or ”after a long illness”.

    ”After a short illness (but not COVID)” doesn’t quite flow …

  5. Just now, 2112 said:

    It’s funny as at one point she was the saviour of the IOM. Its not the ideal post a bit tactless but you can your bottom dollar, that someone else would have come out with that thought. 

    Maybe someone would have. But she didn’t have to be the one. She is supposed to be the intelligent one that people listen to and respect. Right?


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  6. 1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said:

    Yes the trouble is that if you use a phrase like "following a short period of illness in hospital" in the current circumstances, a lot of people are going to jump to conclusions.  Even though most people who die under those circumstances won't have done so from Covid.

    But they do not need to go writing it on twitter. 

    She has had time to remove her tweet if she wrote in haste (we all do it right?). Instead she has continued adding tweets. 

    This is low. 

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  7. 16 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

    Seen that. Very sad news.


    But shocked to be honest that someone is making politics out of it. Especially straight after the announcement.


    Absolutely no ones business what Mr Quinn died of. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, Gladys said:

    Thanks, TP, but I am not viewing it as a moral failure, just a mystery.  My moral dilemma was who I may have inadvertently infected before I tested positive.   I have followed guidelines, masked up,  tested etc. But there will always be situations where you have followed guidelines but perhaps could have done more.  Perhaps it is probably just my learnt Catholic guilt kicking in.

    Something for confession when you are better 😎

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  9. 2 hours ago, Cambon said:

    Although this is true, what is also true is that of 60% of Covid positive tests are Omicron, 40% are still Delta or other variants. 

    Where did you get those stats? Today it is reported that in the UK 90% of cases are omicron.

  10. 6 hours ago, Gladys said:

    But they weren't arbitrary rules, they were the regulations.  The CS had the final say as to whether anyone is in fact resident.  Given that there was someone renting his house, it is hard to say he was resident here as he had nowhere to live.  The failing was not explaining what the position would be should he return to take up occupation. 

    The only other area that is not clear is when you have to have a principal place of residence, at the time of application or when you arrive on the island or both? To a degree that is part of the explanation which was missing, but as I read the regs anyone who has (present tense) a principal place of residence can apply to be registered,  not that you can apply in anticipation of gaining a place of residence.  

    For me what was lacking in the replies was a definition of ”resident”.  

    Telling him he was not resident riled him.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Itsmeee said:

    My 25 year old daughter who lives in England spent 3 hours in a queue on the NHS booster booking website yesterday and got an appointment for 9th January 

    What about the walk in clinics I keep hearing about on the news.

    Or are they London centric 🤷‍♂️

  12. 3 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

    Restrictions/mitigation is being used willy nilly by the UK to cover up how bad the NHS has been run for so many years. I wonder how many people isolating are actually sick. I have said it further up the thread that it is the government guidelines on Isolation that will cause the issues rather than actual illness

    Watched the briefing last night.

    Whole strategy is based on hospitilisations being same rate as delta (milder, but transmitting faster).

    Then Whitty says we don’t know hospitilisation and mortality rate (too early). 

    So, in two weeks time with more data, I hope advice will be updated, if that is the case.



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  13. 13 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

    Yes you’re quite right. They are for lazy people who can’t be bothered to explain themselves.

    If someone makes a post why not just say:-

    I agree with you

    I don’t agree with you

    I don’t understand what you are saying

    And say why?

    A possible exception is the laughing emoji which is less open to interpretation ( “I find what you say is funny”) but even so you could use words to give the author a compliment as to why you find their post humorous.


    I understand what you are saying, but I feel it’s a waste of a post (other people’s time) for me to say things that could be said with an emoji. But I do find them limited and sometimes can’t find one I am looking for. 

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  14. 4 minutes ago, James Blonde said:

    They won't listen. "But that that's SA, not the UK". 

    They're moving from the fear stage (worst mutation ever) into a denial stage (no data for the UK)... 

    Different age demographics Chris Witty says. But are the retired and at-risk most likely to have received a booster?

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  15. 4 hours ago, Danoo said:

    Does it really matter if we have Omicron strain or not? Are we getting too obsessed with gene sequencing? Point is viruses mutate all the time so we should just be concerned with hospital capacity. Especially in light of this strain being milder than Delta. 

    Perhaps good if it is? 


    Omicron hospitalisations in South Africa are a THIRD of Delta level


  16. 18 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

    Yeah but imagine what “might” happen in the future “if” the scientists worse case scenarios play out.

    Question.  Have any of the scientific predictions of deaths etc even one close to coming true?  All the figures decisions have been based on appear to have been massively overplayed.

    We only seen to hear about the ”worst case” scenarios, based on early data and worst case assumptions. 

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