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  1. Must be Wonder Woman - or her creator's wife... (Surely of much greater cultural - and general - significance than the Bee Gees. She even has an asteroid named after her... )
  2. Serious question: what makes it a "fantastic" place to visit? Assuming you are a proper tourist and you are there on holiday (not on business and not just to visit relatives or friends) what is there on offer for you? All I can think of is the TT or some easy hillwalking - possibly some open water kayaking, but that's about it. What other attractions are there? Certainly not the beaches or the nightlife I haven't been back to the island for ten years, so no doubt my views may be completely out of date, but the lingering impressions I would have are that there is virtually no decent accomodation to speak of, there's no decent shops, and there's no decent restaurants. Even the pubs were pretty rubbish - which really surprised and disappointed me as when I was a student in the late 70s Manx pubs were far superior to UK ones in nearly every way. Serious walkers (like serious anglers and serious golfers) will tolerate any old crap accommodation, but most average (or normal if you prefer) holiday makers won't. Having spent too many long weekends myself travelling 600 mile round trips to Scotland to climb Munros and Corbetts and having a brother-in-law who will put with almost any deprivation to go angling in weird out of the way places, I'd suggest there is no comparable attraction on the IoM that would make sharing a bathroom with a stranger worthwhile. So true. I live within 15 minutes walk of the centre of a city, but I can put on my running shoes and within 15 minutes of running in the opposite direction be in scenery just as beautiful as anything on the IoM.
  3. But what does that peer-reviewed article from 2011 have to do with the efficacy of ivermectin as a treatment against Covid? When you read it, what did the authors have to say about Covid? (Did you mean to cite something else?)
  4. Ah. I have just found and top and tailed the Babylon is fallen thread. I presume it was a couple of prominent flat-earthers who were instrumental in encouraging TE? Must have missed it first time round. FWIW I rather enjoy reading the deluded threads so I appreciate your efforts to segregate them from the sensible stuff - it saves me wasting my time on rational posters. (I also appreciate this link you gave in another thread - Isle of Man Judgments Online)
  5. Ah. I wasn't fully aware of what had happened. I've read these boards on and off over the last ten years or so and I actually thought he seemed relatively sensible compared to a lot of posters. When I returned after some time away from here I realised from some comments posted by others that he must have got himself in some sort of legal mess through following FMOTL type ideas. Unfortunately, the people who promote these ideas are at best deluded and unhinged, and at worst evil and dangerous. Disappointing that some of them were - or are - on here. (But perhaps not all that surprising - would TJ have been one?)
  6. I have - but did not want to speak ill of the dead.
  7. Have you not heard of "Free men on the land"? (Also known as "Sovereign Citizens" in the States.) They're obsessed with legal concepts they don't understand (or "stand under" as they would have it) like consent, common law, statute law, and maritime law and admiralty courts. Freeman on the land - RationalWiki People - often desperate - fall under their spell and end up getting themselves into completely avoidable trouble with the legal system You can find some videos on Youtube (mostly American) of what they get up to in court. They'd be hilarious if they weren't so sad in many respects. Sovereign Citizens Fail in Court - YouTube Sovereign Citizen Get Tased Trying To Enter Courtroom - YouTube The ironic thing here is that he was only up for riding a bicycle at night without lights... Sovereign Citizen Freeman Tries Usual BS on Judge. Judge Hysterically Spews it Back - YouTube I felt quite sorry for this last guy as he was completely lost and confused as the judge slowly turned the tables on him.
  8. Oh well - thanks for reading it properly anyway. After the Olympics finished on Sunday I happened to catch Laurel and Hardy on Talking Pictures in their short "Laughing Gravy" - the name of their pet dog. I would have asked here if anybody knew how long they'd been getting shown on Talking Pictures but was afraid my question might be mis-read by some as betraying an inherent prurient interest in two grown men sharing a bed together - rather than just wanting to know how long they'd been back on free-to-watch TV...
  9. I probably do... 🙂 But I also resent John Wright's comments. EDIT: Actually I'm not sure if I'm overthinking it or John Wright is projecting something onto my question that isn't there.
  10. The question I asked was whether Quinn was the first transgender non-binary Olympic Gold medallist. Three possible answers would be "Yes", "No" or "Difficult to say". I did not ask whether Hugues Fabrice Zango was the first-ever medallist for Burkino Faso because I already knew that he was. And you are right - neither did I ask what it was like to be a member of the Burkino Faso team or how Zango was qualified to represent them. But nor did I ask what it was like to be in the Canadian team, or what it was like to be Quinn, or anything about the journey they had followed to get to where they are now in terms of self-identification (which you mistakenly seem to be implying that I did ask as you declare it is none of my business?). I didn't ask those questions about either Zango or Quinn because I haven't got the slightest interest whatsoever in the answer to any of them. I'm only interested in the athletic performance and what training they have undergone to get there - I am profoundly uninterested in their personal journeys or what it "feels like" to win a Gold medal - I'm mostly interested in HOW they won it*. When Jill Douglas asks: "Tell us Laura, what's it like to win your sixth Gold Medal and to be Britiain's only woman Gold medallist at three Olympic Games?" I turn off. Not because I don't think Laura Kenny is fantastic - because she certainly is - but because I don't care what it feels like. Likewise I don't care what it feels like to be Quinn (or Zango or even Jason Kenny), or how they got to represent Canada (or wherever), or how they came to self-identify. In the case of this current Olympics, which I believe is the first at which transgender athletes have openly competed, I fail to see why referring to the apparently first such medal winner should attract such hostility from you. I am sure that members of the transgender non-binary community will be happy to celebrate it and I doubt they would consider any mention of it to be off-limits to non-members of that community. If you think there's a "casual prurient interest inherent" in my question, I'd be grateful if you could be more specific and point out where it lies. Should I have posed my question as: "Wow! Is Quinn the first transgender non-binary Olympic Gold medallist?"? Would that tiny "Wow!" have made it more acceptable to you? If you didn't like my secondary question asking whether the term "transgender" adds anything to the description "non-binary", then just say so and don't accuse me of being prurient. As I said in my earlier reply to Declan, I'm aware that people can easily be offended by even the unintentional mis-use of some of these terms and I was seeking clarification as to whether "transgender" correctly applies to non-binary people. That is because it is not clear to me whether or not "non-binary" is a gender, or whether it is something else. Thus I am not certain that "transgender" - as in crossing or changing gender - is an appropriate term. If you are more knowledgeable than I am in this area, I'd be grateful to know the answer and be educated further. I'm sure it would be helpful for other people to know and to understand as well. *A possible exception would be Emily Campbell. I found her story quite interesting because weightlifting has no (or virtually no) central funding from sources like the lottery. The shotputter Sophie McKinna is another athlete who I think is without central funding and had to resort to crowdfunding to support her training programme. Their background "stories" are interesting and worth hearing, but those stories also impact directly on their achievements and included significant obstacles that had to be overcome. I doubt that Quinn had to defeat similarly significant and practical obstacles in their journey to the Olympics - I suspect they have been supported fully by their nation. But if you know I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected
  11. To correct any perceived imbalance, congratulations to Burkino Faso's Hugues Fabrice Zango on winning that country's first ever Olympic medal (bronze) in Thursday's mens' triple jump. It won't "matter" to anyone on the Isle of Man, but well done all the same...
  12. Why should you think it "matters" (that's a loaded word and somewhat hostile!) to me that a non-binary athlete wins a Gold medal? I happen to think it's something noteworthy - and more worthy of note than an Italian winning the men's 100m, the USA failing to make the mens' 4 x 100m (and the Italians winning it!) , or GB's extremely disappointing showing throughout the rowing regatta. But it's no more worthy of note than Emily Campbell's silver medal in the womens' +109kg weightlifting (which I think is the single most amazing performance of this Olympiad). Would you rather it was not mentioned and was overlooked and ignored? Yes - it's "their truth, their life, their identity...", but the world only knows about it because they have made the positive decision to share their identity with the world and have publicly declared it. It seems a natural and a to be expected consequence of doing that that it might end up being discussed in the context of their winning a Gold medal. In fact I'm pretty certain that Quinn would be more than happy for themselves to be recognised as the first* ever transgender and non-binary Olympic Gold medallist. I'm reasonably sure they are neither embarrassed nor ashamed about it - in fact they are probably extremely proud of it and would welcome its discussion - but your response seems to suggest it's not something that should ever be remarked upon by anyone other than them. I don't think, with respect, that they would share that opinion. *Assuming they are the first. I posted in order to seek clarification as signified by " Is... ?"
  13. Thank you - I know what non-binary means. What I was uncertain about was the use of "transgender" as well. I assume that in Quinn's case they were assigned female at birth but have since exercised their choice to be seen as neither gender. That seems to me to give a different slant to the meaning of "transgender" as opposed to the way it is used for example in the cases of athletes like Laurel Hubbard or Veronica Ivy, both of whom (as I understand it) have fully transitioned from being born male to becoming female. I may be mistaken, but that seems a different level of transition to me, which renders the use of the term unclear. Living in the UK and having worked in the public sector (where a work colleague transitioned from male to female) I want to understand the nuances of "trans" terms as it is remarkably easy to inadvertantly offend people. In this case I would simply have described them (Quinn, not Hubbard and Ivy) as non-binary. I would not have used the term transgender as well. I was surprised that it is used in this instance as I'm not certain it adds anything above simply saying that someone is "non-binary".
  14. Is Quinn the first transgender, non-binary Olympic medallist? And a gold medal at that. Football QUINN - Tokyo 2020 Olympics EDIT: I mean somebody who declared themselves to be transgender prior to winning a medal. Some athletes (eg Andreas Krieger transitioned after winning medals, plus they did not win an Olympic medal. Andreas Krieger - Wikipedia And - I must admit - I'm not sure what Quinn's "transgender" status means in this context in association with "non-binary". Does this signify a transition from either male or female to neither?
  15. That's another one my wife laughs at! It's a form of ethnic abuse...
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