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  1. @finlo: point out some totally irrelevant spelling mistake whilst completely ignoring the topic. Don't bother posting at all if its nothing relevant. And yawn oldmanxman, still calling people you don't even know scum. And to that person asking about the deaths in south america, I'm not even wasting my time on that one. Illegality enhances the criminals and props up the black market. The war on drugs is creating more issues than the drugs themselves.
  2. Sorry, was directed at P.K.'s comment. Shouldve quoted him, my bad.
  3. @P.K. Are you blind because your powers of reading something I've already said seems to be on the weak side shall we say...? I've already stated that drug addiction is a health issue, not a criminal one. Clearly you think its a criminal one as you believe "the very best result of their incarceration would be to come out clean of a major factor, if not THE major factor". I believe anyone with an addiction issue should have help, not sent to a fucking prison. Herein lies our differences apparently and why this conversation is pointless
  4. Fine by me. So get off your arse and start trying to smuggle heroin into the pokey. Go on, away you go. Prove how wrong we all are. Good luck with that one... So because I've stated that smuggling will happen regardless of any deterrent put in place by the government, your argument against it is for me to go personally do it? Seems like you just want rid of me because you don't like to hear opinions that differ to your own. What a shame but not entirely unsuspected from these forums. Peace out bros. It's hardly an argument against it now is it? Your stance is that the sentence is harsh because it's so prevalent. Actually I think you'll find that just because you think it's so prevalent that doesn't mean it's somehow less of a crime. A fact you seem to be struggling to grasp. So go and prove how prevalent it is by doing it yourself. And if you get caught you might then understand my point that no matter how many try to do it it's still a crime... No, my stance is the sentence is harsh because drugs should be regulated not prohibited because the demand will always exist. Ive simply said that using this guy as deterrent wont work because smuggling will always happen. A fact you seem to be struggling to grasp. The whole thing is a wider issue of drug legalization. If you think locking up one guy who tried to smuggle some drugs into prison is a success then yes, you're all as naive as I said earlier.
  5. Fine by me. So get off your arse and start trying to smuggle heroin into the pokey. Go on, away you go. Prove how wrong we all are. Good luck with that one... So because I've stated that smuggling will happen regardless of any deterrent put in place by the government, your argument against it is for me to go personally do it? Seems like you just want rid of me because you don't like to hear opinions that differ to your own. What a shame but not entirely unsuspected from these forums. Peace out bros.
  6. No impact at all? You mean ive made points and you're still ignoring them because you're point is "come on now, heroin is heroin and therefore anything associated with it must be bad". As i said, you're naive and this is pointless if your views are so bigoted. I use recreational drugs too and Im not that stupid that I immediately call anyone who uses one substance over another scum without even knowing the person or their issues. Seriously, you're being so fucking naive that its pointless even talking to you.
  7. Fuck you. Anyone who sells smack is a fucking scumbag. I have no issue with recreational drug use whatsoever but feeding addicts in prison is like shooting fish in a barrel. I honestly can't believe one person is that stupid to think they would get away with it. Or that they wouldn't be made an example of. Now now, no need for "fuck you" just because someone is challenging your shitty view. You haven't given me a counter argument for everything i said about demand = supply and how regulation works and prohibition doesn't instead you've just stamped your feet about "HOW BAD HEROIN IS" and how only SCUMBAGS do it. "I honestly can't believe one person is that stupid to think they would get away with it. Or that they wouldn't be made an example of." Drugs have been smuggled into prison for years and will continue to do so. One person got caught and your singing "victory" and "lets make an example". Why? One person getting stopped is nothing to shout about. Seems like you're a little naive to me so I'm done here.
  8. WHY Theft is theft, smuggling drugs is smuggling drugs. Black is black. Did you think a telling off would do? What is your logic exactly? Because bad things happen, proportionate sentences shouldn't be considered because everything is simply black and white in your world? "Drugs are bad because they're illegal" "Why are they illegal?" "Because they're bad".
  9. Well you're wrong. Its not proportionate just because its big scary HEROIN. Seems to me like your own personal fears are effecting your rationale. The demand for any drug is due to addiction, which is a health issue not a criminal one. This guy clearly disagrees with the drug laws and is happy to supply users with the substance they want. Demand = Supply. Already stated that the whole deterrence thing wont work and yes, I wouldn't be surprised if someone smuggles some stuff in for this very person. You'd be very naive to think that this has now solved the "problem of smuggling drugs into the prison".
  10. All drugs should be legal and regulated, not prohibited, as people are going to take drugs regardless of what the government tries to do. The government is actually successful in regulating substances to the public and completely unsuccessful in trying to prohibit them. If you haven't realised that already (its only been 30/40 years of the War on Drugs for you to realise) then its pointless you even taking part in this conversation. "The sentence is clearly a deterrent to any fuckwitt who might consider smuggling drugs into a prison in future. " Can tell you now, it wont work. So if this sentence was merely to act as a deterrent and I can already tell you it hasn't worked, then the whole fucking thing is a bit pointless isn't it?
  11. "cannabis resin worth £12." "the length of sentence was affected by the fact he hadn't named his supplier. " How pathetic. And oldmanxfella is clearly crazy. Anyone who thinks its acceptable for someone to serve 4 years for £120 worth of drugs can fuck off quite frankly.
  12. Godwins. You think the law should be optional? Let me know how you feel when some scumbag clears out your house. The CM expressed his personal view that there was justification for a fresh debate, and that he thought cannabis use should be a health matter, not a criminal matter. He didn't say anything more than that. I'm not a fan of our drugs laws either, but I also don't want dealers who can fund 100k shipments to walk around unchallenged. I imagine there's some unpleasant people involved in that supply chain and I'm glad the police are providing a deterrent. The idea of staging a protest against this kind of bust is mind boggling. Sorry but having issues with the Police blindly following orders is not the same as considering the law optional, its not as 'black' and 'white' as that. Its like saying what the Nazi's did was fine because they were just following Hitlers 'law' and orders. Yes I want the laws to change but realistically, what impact could I, or anyone else with the same views have on anything? Voting for the lesser or two evils gets you no where. I dont claim to have the answers, but I wish the guys with the power (Alan Bell) would do something (especially if their OWN personal views coincide) to spark a change and stop being massive pussies. You seem to be constantly missing the point too, "but I also don't want dealers who can fund 100k shipments to walk around unchallenged". For the third time, could you please tell me how, if it was legal (and therefore bought/grown locally), this scenario with these 2 guys would have occured? My guess is that they wouldnt have bothered in the very first place as there is ZERO demand for their black market services. Unless you just have a problem with "bad guys" having 100k to spend? And if the detterent theory is so effective, why has the war on drugs been a complete failure and we're still having guys risk their lives trying to smuggle some weed? Surely if the detterent theory is working, we wouldnnt have just had 2 guys attempt to smuggle a load of weed because it would have occured to them that thousands of people have been caught in the past, putting them off the idea? And please, dont say "Oh well then clearly we need to step up our number of busts so its an even greater detterent". Where do you stop? How do we know what a "good" amount of smugglers being stopped is? Maybe if there's always a demand, there will always be a supply? Making it pointless to even try with this approach (I can see similarities between alcohol prohibition..).
  13. Right, but it isn't. So don't criticise the police for going after 100k of contraband. Protest decriminalisation sure, but the coppers are just doing their jobs. Yeah, it's a crap way of sensationalising the bust, they should report weight. I doubt 'a few ounces' would warrant two blokes and a boat though. I wasnt criticising the Police per say, but I do have a problem with people (Police or not) blindly 'following orders'. I recall a bunch of guys in the 1940's were just 'following orders', and that didnt work out too well. Still, the OP from 2bee was more directed at Alan Bell I thought anyway. He says his personal view is that Cannabis should be decriminalized at the least. Then the next day/week, the police, under his policy and 'orders' shall we say, are busting some young lad (denting his future) for the exact same topic he was just saying should be relaxed. You then said 'well having 1 joint isnt exactly the same as importing/supplying' and my point was these young lads wouldnt have to be importing this stuff in the first place if it was legal. Ontop of that, these lads are only importing it BECAUSE of the money. Again, legalisation takes that incentive/intisement away.
  14. Sorry, i probably shoulve have quotted him to be more clear!
  15. Thats what I thought when I read Slims post too
  16. If it was legal there would be no need for a couple of lads to import it on some fishing boat. Would be locally grown and sold, eliminating scenarios like this. And please dont be fooled by the 'street' value of £110k. Its a lot less.
  17. Can't be such a bad thing that we've got another intellectual on the island who can cut and paste. Where else do you expect someone to get their information from, if they're not scientists themselves with the abilty to do experiments! Its perfectly acceptable to investigate via google; as with most things, someone else has already done a better job than you will ever do your self
  18. Hello! New band based in Douglas is looking for a Bass Player (male or female). We're still deciding on a band name but the ideal Bassist would be early/mid 20's with similar music interests. This includes Paramore, Jimmy Eat World, Weezer, Guns N' Roses, Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone age, etc. We also have some of our own recorded material. If you're interested or want to know more information, please contact me at s.g.norman @ gmail.com or telephone/text at 429763. Thanks, Steven
  19. Watched it last night - good episode imo! Got to see some action! Knew it wouldnt be so easy for Sylar Mr Bennett taking this path just to ensure Claires safety? Or does he actually agree with Nathans scheme?
  20. 3allz

    Wow 3.0.2

    15 minute queues? try 1 hour 30 minutes position 1200 :/ But yeah, enjoying it so far. Have barely played it though at the moment, 20% from 71 but the new seige weapons are making it more enjoyable (for questing anyway).
  21. Fortress Forever has finally been released! After a 3 year wait its out. Its completely free and is a 3rd party mod for HL2 (meaning you must have HL2 installed). Its had rave reviews so far and it is not the same game as 'Team Fortress 2' (made by Valve) which you can get beta access to, starting next monday. ALL the info is at their website Fortress Forever including d/l mirrors, screenshots, videos, what the game is about and background behind the game. If you check the forums there are torrents running too. If you were a fan of the original Team Fotress Classic you will probably enjoy this game (considering its free too!). Its been made so new players can get into the game and their class alot easier than its predisesor with bunnyhopping, fast gameplay, concussion grenade jumping, etc. Enough talking - just download it! Heres a direct ftp download mirror ive found just for you guys ftp://ftp.multiplay.co.uk/pub/games/fps/h...fortressforever
  22. 2 computers + 2 accounts(1 priest + 1 dps) = win win win. Just hope your good at mutitasking!
  23. Al'akir have already cleared Grul's layer and i know a couple of peeps with t4 from karazhan! Personally, im just waiting for the arenas to start and aiming for the top rewards with my pvp guild... should be quite fun
  24. the magnetism was so powerful when desmond forgot to enter the numbers that it pulled the plane, or so we think . They've told us thats why, but personally, i think theres more to it. Really enjoyed S3 up to Ep6 so far, just annoying having to wait until feb for EP7
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