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According to todays Examiner, this individual who did not have the guts to stand for re-election in last weeks general election, has said he would let his name go forward for MLC!! What nerve he has. There is a current vacancy, and another in a few months time when the Don retires.

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Can't say I'm surprised

 

The sooner the public have some say in who gets elected as MLCs the better

 

Am I right in saying that other members of the MLC vote members in? :unsure:

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Am I right in saying that other members of the MLC vote members in? :unsure:

 

From the Tynwald web site:

 

The Legislative Council has a President and ten other members.

 

The President of Tynwald sits ex officio as the President of the Legislative Council. In 1990, the first elected President of Tynwald was elected by Tynwald for a six year term.

 

Two further members of the Council are also ex officio, the Lord Bishop of Sodor and Man, who has a vote, and HM Attorney General for the Isle of Man, who does not.

 

The remaining eight members of the Legislative Council are elected by the House of Keys for terms which end on the last day of February following the fourth anniversary of their election. The members are elected in two groups of four in different years, to provide continuity of membership. The Keys vote in a secret ballot and a candidate must attract a minimum of thirteen votes to be elected to the Council. Members of the Keys may nominate any person over 21 as a candidate.

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According to todays Examiner, this individual who did not have the guts to stand for re-election in last weeks general election, has said he would let his name go forward for MLC!! What nerve he has. There is a current vacancy, and another in a few months time when the Don retires.

FFS if this is right!? he has some brass neck :ph34r:

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According to todays Examiner, this individual who did not have the guts to stand for re-election in last weeks general election, has said he would let his name go forward for MLC!! What nerve he has. There is a current vacancy, and another in a few months time when the Don retires.

FFS if this is right!? he has some brass neck :ph34r:

 

His statement is posted in full on the Julie Corkill Appeals thread

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I'd rather see John Rimington "elected" as an MLC than Mr Ned. But that wouldn't be good for democracy either!

 

If Corkill didn't have the guts to stand in front of his constituents at the general election then he should keep stum about being an MLC. Bloody hypocritical if he does "allow" his name to be put forward.

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The procedure for the Members of the House of Keys voting for Members of the Legislative Council is demonstrated here:

House of Keys 4th March 2003 It is worth a quick read from page K338, to see how it all goes.

 

In this case Leonard Singer got in on the first ballot, Eddie Lowey on a second ballot. Mrs Crowe and Mrs Christan weren't able to achieve enough votes to be elected and so the nominations went to a further meeting (with 2 additional nominees) held purely to elect MLCs House of Keys 18th March 2003

 

It can take a 3 or 4 meetings and over a dozen ballots for the House of Keys to provide enough votes to put someone into the Legislative Council. Hardly a vote of confidence so perhaps there is a shortage of really suitable candidates.

 

An important point here is that the public can have a say, albeit indirect, in who is made an MLC provided that they are aware of who has been nominated, and then speaking to their MHKs about it.

 

The ballots, however, are secret. So I suppose you don't really know how your MHK voted.

 

Although MLCs are elected in 4 year intervals as described by ste1205 above, when an MLC leaves office by resigning such as Leonard Singer, the place is filled at a next suitable meeting of the House of Keys.

 

So, find out the nominations and ask not only your MHK, but any or all MHKs how they will vote

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MHKS RECEIVE INFLATION-BUSTING PAY RISE

MHKS have received two inflation-busting pay rises in just five weeks.

It takes the basic salary to £34,152, from £31,651. Members of Tynwald are also entitled to expenses worth £5,790.

 

MHKs and MLCs serving on government departments will take home £50,188, while ministers will receive £57,018, more than £4,000 extra.

 

Last year's earnings survey revealed the average annual wage was just £25,428, and half of all full-time workers earned less than £21,736.

 

In early March it was agreed to hand members a salary increase worth 4 per cent, backdated to August 1.

 

Another boost, worth 3.75 per cent, was applied in April 1.

 

Both figures are above the 3.2 per cent February inflation rate, the most up-to-date figures available from Treasury.

 

The changes take the chief minister's salary to more than £67,000, members of the Treasury will receive £53,600 and chairman of statutory boards £3,415 on top of the basic salary and expenses.

 

Members serving on government departments are allowed £10,246 on top of their salaries, although they only receive one payment regardless of how many departments they serve on.

 

The increases were automatically applied when the long-running civil service pay deal reached a conclusion at the start of March.

 

After months of wrangles between the Government Officers' Association and Civil Service Commission, thousands of staff accepted a deal in a union ballot in late February.

 

Under the Tynwald members pay agreement, which links wage increases to civil service terms and conditions, the same percentage rises were handed to MHKs and MLCs.

 

The pay award has come under fire from long-serving Tynwald member and former House of Keys speaker Victor Kneale.

 

'How do they justify this? They don't even try,' he said. 'They just thumb their noses at the public, take the money and keep their heads down below the parapet.

 

'Such abuse of a privileged position is unforgivable.'

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Legco actually receives good press from most quarters. I would think they would want to shy away from any appointment that might be contentious and go for a quality appointment from outside of politics.

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I was going to suggest Juan Watterson for the MLC role - no one could doubt his electoral mandate but given his relative inexperience this would give him the chance to learn the ropes in a less pressured role. However, since the term is so short he or any of the other newly elected MHK's woulg be insane to take the role.

 

So there's the six former MHK's -

 

Rimmington, Hannan, and the Captain, have just been removed at the polls, would be hard for them to come back so soon. Rimmington would probably be the best MLC of all I'm going to mention, and I don't think there'd be a great outcry from those who voted elsewhere in Rushen, but he was beaten heavily.

 

Duggan, Delaney, and Corkill. I suppose it could be argued that these guys ducked out of the chance to stand, so should they be allowed in through the back door. However, the two D's are elder statesman nearing the end of their political careers. Isn't this what the Legco is for? So they could be considered (although they're not going to ask Dom after last time are they? Although maybe the by-election has given the pause to thought) Ned's beyond the pale for obvious reasons.

 

How about Singer? Experienced politician, polled well against two sitting members, got more votes than many of those elected!

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