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Bellingcat were put on the scent when "British media leaked the names". When they begin with a lie how can one believe anything else? Bellingcat are the outsourced media release arm of the British intelligence service and any information should be treated as such. We are supposed to believe that a couple of underpanted guys have solved a double conundrum that the entire British intelligence agencies couldn't. And some will

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Journalists use all sorts of sources. 

The important part of their job is verifying them. 

Do you really doubt these two aren’t GRU, Stinky?

 

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I couldn't say for certain either way. Do you really doubt that bellingcat disseminate disinformation from our intelligence agencies in the same way the SOHR do? Which is then repeated without question by our media? And once it appears in the media, Then it can be written into wiki too? Do you not have any doubts as to the veracity of it all China? Do you believe that propaganda either doesn't exist any more or is only done by the baddies? 

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3 hours ago, the stinking enigma said:

I couldn't say for certain either way. Do you really doubt that bellingcat disseminate disinformation from our intelligence agencies in the same way the SOHR do? Which is then repeated without question by our media? And once it appears in the media, Then it can be written into wiki too? Do you not have any doubts as to the veracity of it all China? Do you believe that propaganda either doesn't exist any more or is only done by the baddies? 

I'm sure spooks plant stories to help spin their political masters' ambitions, and in this case it is in Whitehall's interests to expose these two people for what they are, and they aren't innocent tourists visiting Salisbury to admire the cathedral spire.  Surely even you can admit that by now Stinky?

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So why don't the intelligence agencies come out and put their name to it? It's hardly an unprecedented move. They only really started outsourcing it after that time they  they were proved to be at best wrong by talking us into killing lots of people in Iraq, destroying the country and leading to the rise of isis. Is that why they now outsource it China? The point is, bellingcat start off lying by claiming they are independent. I don't think that's a good start to be honest.

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10 hours ago, the stinking enigma said:

So why don't the intelligence agencies come out and put their name to it? It's hardly an unprecedented move. They only really started outsourcing it after that time they  they were proved to be at best wrong by talking us into killing lots of people in Iraq, destroying the country and leading to the rise of isis. Is that why they now outsource it China? The point is, bellingcat start off lying by claiming they are independent. I don't think that's a good start to be honest.

wasn't that a usa report latter spun by labour.........

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5 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

The 30 mins or whatever for Saddam to strike with chemical weapons was the clincher. Try not to lose yourself in supersilliousness woody

which came from the usa......

blair had already agreed way before that......

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5 hours ago, woody2 said:

blair, campbell and piers morgan should all be in prison.....

In the same cell. 

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7 hours ago, the stinking enigma said:

The 30 mins or whatever for Saddam to strike with chemical weapons was the clincher. Try not to lose yourself in supersilliousness woody

It's 40 minutes and you'll find it in the public domain in Jane's Weapon Systems as the amount of time it takes to prep a binary battlefield WMD.

Please not  again.....

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Nice to see at least one article in the mainstream press asking a question or two about the current faves Bellingcat. Obviously the ownership of the Independent does raise a couple of questions mind... Oh for some simplicity in this world of disinformation 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/skripals-bellingcat-gru-novichok-anatoly-chepiga-alexander-mishkin-putin-russia-a8577161.html

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