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Perhaps I am blinkered, tell me then, what is there that is good about living in the UK?

 

The facilities that are offered, multiplex cinemas, real ice-rinks, large shopping centres, the low cost of travel...and dare i say it, Universities. The UK is not that much different to the Isle of Man....and i mean that honestly. It's confuses me that you can write it off as a hell-hole when all you've heard are stories from clients and the listened to the news...lets face it they're not going to be telling you stories about their sleepy cotswold village are they. It's the equivalent of me saying i'd never go and live in America, it's full of dangerous animals and psychopaths who go shooting up schools. You're idea of the UK is pretty typical of the blinkered "my way is right" attitude you've presented on the forums so far and i doubt i can change it.

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Ok, hear me out here. I left school at 16, had my first child at 19, a second one at 22 and at that time had 11 GSCE's to my name. I decided to make a positive out of a huge negative, and enrolled myself at the OU. I now have a degreee (BSc fwiw) in 'The Applied Psychology Of Challenging Behaviour And Learning Disability'

 

I cant find that particular BSc qualification in the OU list of courses and qualifications. Could you point it out for us ?

 

You are quite correct Lonewolf, it isn't there. I started out at OU, and gained 240 points in undergraduate studies in Social Sciences. As I hadn't furthered my studies from school, this gave me the opportunity to apply for

 

Tizard Centre

 

And, upon completion, and being able to APL my prior points, I was awarded said BSc. (In place of the Diploma which is 240 points and there are only 360 required for a degree). I should have explained it a little clearer, but thought it too long winded and boring!

 

Not boring at all. I was quite taken by the idea of a first degree with such a specialised sounding name.

Who awarded it ?

The OU dont list it and neither do Kent.

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.... I left school in 1976 and went on to the Tech (College of FE) to do an OND. It was newish, but was definitely around in the mid 70's.

 

It was there in '72 for sure.

 

Incidently, I'm not sure when it changed, but in 1972 Ballakermeen was still divided into 2 sections, girls/boys,

with no-mans land in the center patrolled during break times buy a member of staff from each of the 2 sections!

 

Ist and 2nd years spent in Balla, 3rd, 4th and 5th years spent at St Ninians(boys) and Park Rd. (girls)

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The facilities that are offered, multiplex cinemas, real ice-rinks, large shopping centres, the low cost of travel...and dare i say it, Universities. The UK is not that much different to the Isle of Man....and i mean that honestly. It's confuses me that you can write it off as a hell-hole when all you've heard are stories from clients and the listened to the news...lets face it they're not going to be telling you stories about their sleepy cotswold village are they. It's the equivalent of me saying i'd never go and live in America, it's full of dangerous animals and psychopaths who go shooting up schools. You're idea of the UK is pretty typical of the blinkered "my way is right" attitude you've presented on the forums so far and i doubt i can change it.

 

Interesting Ean, you sound to me like a person who has just discovered that there is a world outside the Isle of man. Personally, I have lived and spent much time in several countries on the continents of Europe and the USA, and all the things you mention as being positives about living in the UK (including the villages) fall to virtual insignificance compared to what is on offer elsewhere, and you call me blinkered?

 

The truth is that the UK is in one hell of a mess. It has to be about the most expensive country in the world to live and one of the most highly taxed. It is a country where children (who cannot be arrested) effectively have more rights than adults. A country where the police are now almost powerless. In many parts of Europe the "roast beefs" as they are often called are seen as a bit of a joke. A country who grants tens of thousands of people asylum every year but if you actually apply for immigration from outside it is extremely difficult to get in (Mohammad Al Fayed springs to mind). These same asylum seekers receive huge benefits and yet hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pensioners and single parents are virtually on the bread line! Think back to yesterday and Brown's statement, he has put up the tax on petrol and air travel and is going to put the money towards helping the environment. Just a couple of days ago they announced they are going to invest £15-£20 BILLION into nuclear arms, now they really are environmentally friendly!!

 

The British themselves are leaving the UK in their droves to live, well anywhere else. The immigration stampede to the UK is beyond belief. These are all people looking for a better life. They are generally coming from war torn, virtually 3rd world countries. They are hard working people who will work for far less than the average Brit and they have the right to british jobs. Anyone thinking it is hard to get a job in the UK now, watch this space in 5 years. Another two countries worth of people become eligable to work in the UK next month.

 

This is not hearsay this is fact.

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The facilities that are offered, multiplex cinemas, real ice-rinks, large shopping centres, the low cost of travel...and dare i say it, Universities. The UK is not that much different to the Isle of Man....and i mean that honestly. It's confuses me that you can write it off as a hell-hole when all you've heard are stories from clients and the listened to the news...lets face it they're not going to be telling you stories about their sleepy cotswold village are they. It's the equivalent of me saying i'd never go and live in America, it's full of dangerous animals and psychopaths who go shooting up schools. You're idea of the UK is pretty typical of the blinkered "my way is right" attitude you've presented on the forums so far and i doubt i can change it.

 

Interesting Ean, you sound to me like a person who has just discovered that there is a world outside the Isle of man. Personally, I have lived and spent much time in several countries on the continents of Europe and the USA, and all the things you mention as being positives about living in the UK (including the villages) fall to virtual insignificance compared to what is on offer elsewhere, and you call me blinkered?

 

The truth is that the UK is in one hell of a mess. It has to be about the most expensive country in the world to live and one of the most highly taxed. It is a country where children (who cannot be arrested) effectively have more rights than adults. A country where the police are now almost powerless. In many parts of Europe the "roast beefs" as they are often called are seen as a bit of a joke. A country who grants tens of thousands of people asylum every year but if you actually apply for immigration from outside it is extremely difficult to get in (Mohammad Al Fayed springs to mind). These same asylum seekers receive huge benefits and yet hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pensioners and single parents are virtually on the bread line! Think back to yesterday and Brown's statement, he has put up the tax on petrol and air travel and is going to put the money towards helping the environment. Just a couple of days ago they announced they are going to invest £15-£20 BILLION into nuclear arms, now they really are environmentally friendly!!

 

The British themselves are leaving the UK in their droves to live, well anywhere else. The immigration stampede to the UK is beyond belief. These are all people looking for a better life. They are generally coming from war torn, virtually 3rd world countries. They are hard working people who will work for far less than the average Brit and they have the right to british jobs. Anyone thinking it is hard to get a job in the UK now, watch this space in 5 years. Another two countries worth of people become eligable to work in the UK next month.

 

This is not hearsay this is fact.

Well said.

 

I was in a UK pub after work yesterday and got talking to a couple of pensioners who could only afford one drink (a weekly treat!), though one of them, a lady had a 'windfall' of £1700 this week because some scrot had mugged her near her home, and broken her hand so badly she has lost use of one of her fingers.

 

Walking back at about 8pm to where I was staying, four lads aged around 16, were kicking the shit out of (and badly bending) a garage door on a group of garages near some houses. I chased them off and then went to the nearest house to tell them. After three locks were undone a face appeared through a chain lock and I told them what had been going on - but they thought the garage was rented out to someone who lives some distance away.

 

I have worked on and off the island in the UK and Europe (including being in the forces and contracting etc.) and the UK has changed drastically in 20 years. The arse is taxed out of everyone, including pensioners who have to find a minimum usually of around £700 per year for poll tax bills out of their crappy pension. 50,000 pensioners a year on average in the UK die off as a direct result of the cold, where the majority can't afford to heat their homes.

 

The UK is a shit hole run by a bunch of selfish greedy barstards. I have never seen so much Pond Life in one place.

 

Many people don't know how lucky they are living on the island, and shouldn't be suprised when people on here try to vigoursly defend it (and fight copy and paste UK legislation) to make sure it stays that way. Put our politicians up in the UK for six months on a Manchester council estate I say - and even they perhaps might at last see the direction they are taking the island and start doing something about it.

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Ad verbatim from the Daily Mail perchance?

 

Actually, I don't read the gutter press!!

 

Ean, this has gone way off topic so lets leave it at that.

 

Besides, I am not particularly anti university, so why are we arguing?

 

My original point was that regardless of whether or not you go to university, the more effort you put in the better the chance of success.

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Ad verbatim from the Daily Mail perchance?

 

Actually, I don't read the gutter press!!

 

Ean, this has gone way off topic so lets leave it at that.

 

Besides, I am not particularly anti university, so why are we arguing?

 

My original point was that regardless of whether or not you go to university, the more effort you put in the better the chance of success.

Pardon the pun, but this is relevant to some degree. If not staying on a University campus you do need to make sure that you carefully select the area in which you intend to live, especially if you are on a limited budget. Pond life are on limited budgets too remember. It is worth doing a lot of reconnaissance first e.g. buying local papers, checking out the neighbours, and even worth spending a few days in the area before you accept an offer etc.

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Ad verbatim from the Daily Mail perchance?

 

Actually, I don't read the gutter press!!

 

 

 

And yet the opinions you have on the matter mirror its opinions so perfectly.

 

Thank god we have TV and the word of pensioners in pubs to go on, otherwise we'd never get to the truth.

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Thank god we have TV and the word of pensioners in pubs to go on, otherwise we'd never get to the truth.

This was confirmed by other pensioners in the group - she was not just some nutcase.

 

However, after vigourously banging my head against a brick wall for two hours, and holding my breath for another hour...I can see your point of view.

 

 

 

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