finlo Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Income Tax, Car insurance, Car tax, Rates, Etc is all cheaper. I'd say it balances out pretty well even and even if it does cost slighty more its certainly worth it. RFL is more expensive here than UK, well it is for me can't speak for everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Hi bees, I suppose that's £120 for one passenger then? Doesn't sound too bad but consider a couple with three children going on holiday. I know some of it is tax imposed by the UK, but its still going to be a lot of money. Tell me about it, just been quoted £200 by the racket for 2 adults 2 kids day return. Edited to add that's foot passenger price. Edited August 7, 2007 by finlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 The road tax has been significantly increased on the Island over the last few years particularly for over 1600cc. It used to be much cheaper than the UK but certainly won't be if the 2 litre+ supertax ever happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbms Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) Ok as a follow up to my previous now I have been here a short while longer lets add another comparison, my salery is the exact same amount as i was getting in the UK the main difference is I am in a flat paying rent etc whilst my wife is in UK selling the house so we have not only the exact same bills as across but in addition I am paying rent phone bill and electricity as well as buying food entertainment etc taking all this into account I still have £300 more left in my account than when I was across so considering the house prices here are about the same as where I used to live I cant see any argument for saying I could be worse off here, as for the argument of costing more to buy goods like TV's etc simple solution do what some of the lads at my place of work do, we have a list of what you want every time it gets to a decent size they order to collect from store 2 of them go across in a van pick all the stuff up from currys comet etc come back over considering you can go across as a private van with 2 passengers for at the moment for £230 if 10 people want goods then it costs £23 each your savings more than pay for that simple economics. So why not start a section in the forum for goods required and we arrange similar trips instead of just bleating about prices and doing nothing, if enough people reply to this with interest I will start the bloody thing. P.S. could the redhead who groped my bum on the way out of quids inn last night please return and do it again. Edited August 26, 2007 by jimbms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 ....and breathe. And don't moan when all the shops in the IOM go bust and you can't get anything but milk and Gelling's eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) Ok as a follow up to my previous now I have been here a short while longer lets add another comparison, my salery is the exact same amount as i was getting in the UK the main difference is I am in a flat paying rent etc whilst my wife is in UK selling the house so we have not only the exact same bills as across but in addition I am paying rent phone bill and electricity as well as buying food entertainment etc taking all this into account I still have £300 more left in my account than when I was across so considering the house prices here are about the same as where I used to live I cant see any argument for saying I could be worse off here, as for the argument of costing more to buy goods like TV's etc simple solution do what some of the lads at my place of work do, we have a list of what you want every time it gets to a decent size they order to collect from store 2 of them go across in a van pick all the stuff up from currys comet etc come back over considering you can go across as a private van with 2 passengers for at the moment for £230 if 10 people want goods then it costs £23 each your savings more than pay for that simple economics. So why not start a section in the forum for goods required and we arrange similar trips instead of just bleating about prices and doing nothing, if enough people reply to this with interest I will start the bloody thing. P.S. could the redhead who groped my bum on the way out of quids inn last night please return and do it again. I think you've not properly weighed up the Manx way as yet. Its our right to moan and bitch about the price of everything, and when some shyster comeover suggests doing van runs to import gear on the cheap its also our right to tell you to pi** off back from where you came from because your putting local shops out of business. We'd also moan about you setting up a place on the forum to manage it because it just makes you look like a cheapskate comeover taking money out of our economy and nobody would want to be your mate. Plus you made the classic mistake of saying that your happy to pay more for bread that does not taste like cardboard, without knowing that what most Manxies take for granted - that most Manx bread actually tastes far far worse than cardboard! Edited August 26, 2007 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I think that first of all the comparison has taken an expensive english shop and a cheap manx one. I believe the difference to be much greater based on experience The cost of meat is not fair in that comparison. You can buy quality Enlish meat much cheaper, for instance. Same with fuel. The truth has to be that there is a wider choice in England, you can travel and you can find the bargains. We can't without penalty of fares and time. Yes we get tax relief on interest, huge tax free allowances, low tax rates, bigger pensions lower rtaes but at the cost of hugely more expensive housing for 1st time buyers, gas. electricity etc. For most average people, especially those on a UK scale like nurses, doctors and teachers or civil servants its probably even stevens, for those at the top of the tree its is actually cheaper here but don't forget we have the pensioners and those on benefits whose income goes a lot less far and who do not have any benefit from low tax and huge allowances because they do not pay tax. it is people in that circumsatnce I feel sorry for, who probably aren't on here, and who would love an Aldi or a Netto. I could eat beans with a foreign label at 5p per can instead of Heinz at Tesco for 45p if my means dictated and they were available I change my weekly shop from Tesco to Shoprite to M&S. Know what M&S is consistently the cheapest, Shoprite consistently the most expensive. Why, well M&S charge UK prices on the whole and the quality is good, little waste. I do like the Waitrose products at Shoprite, wish we had a full Waittrose store at UK prices. Even better what about a Booths (regional supermarket chain in northwest Lancashire and Cumbria.) Better meant and cheese and fish than most specialist shops and fanatastic cakes and breads and own brands as well as a full range of everything else. Its the lack of choice I find lamentable, followed by the realisation of how lucky I am and how unlicky pensioners and those on benefits are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 ... without knowing that what most Manxies take for granted - that most Manx bread actually tastes far far worse than cardboard! Real Manxies know full well how very good the bread was before Ramsey Bakery started up :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Manx Bread has never ben any good since Winkles closed down in Foxdale. The Coop was no good and neither was Rathbones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 The catch is that Ramsey bakery can produce some excellent bread but only to special order for some restaurants - the bakery in Kk Michael St Peel is probably one of the last few indep bakers - its bread is generally fine and sells out very quickly, but the range is nowhere near that of a specialist baker in a reasonably large English town.. However even these are now squeezed as for example the long-established bakers in Guildford recently suffered finacial collapse. My own estimate (as a non-meat eater) is that that the Island costs about 50 to 100% more for decent veg as compared to the street market here in Guildford (thus if M&S charge UK prices thery are probably competive on the Island whereas here in Guildford they are seen as charging top prices) - this competition from the market also keeps the local Sainsbury's at a reasonable price - some of the best veg I've had is from the Market Hall Douglas, generally Robinson's by time it reaches Peel Shoprite seems to have lost something in terms of freshness + gained quite a bit in price, the local Co-op can supply good veg but doesn't store it properly. For really expensive veg however the monthly farmers market in Guildford charges top wack not all of which seems justfied to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbms Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Well it seems this argument is now getting a little to bitchy to continue debating it, so I will conclude my words on it with an old saying "You don't know a man until you walk a mile in his shoes" at that point if you don't like him at least your a mile away and have his shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langweilig Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I remember a hotel owner in Douglas express surprise about the new luxury apartments near St. Helier's going for £119,000. he was told that where I'm from, the same apartments would cost a minimum of £220,000 he couldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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