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So the government had to commission a report to tell us that freight charges are too high. we really are being governed by a bunch of farmers and shop keepers. of course they are charging four times more than any other ferry operator, THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY. why should'nt they rip us off everyone else is, you only have to look at the price of substandard bread from ramsey, or the cost of a taxi in douglas. even the airlines are cashing in on our routes. so stop wasting public money on reports that only tell us what we already know. How about a report into the cost of an indian meal on the island which are four times higher than liverpool, birmingham, manchester and bolton. or is that because of the shiping costs to get the spices here.

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Thousands of pounds and hundreds of man-hours spent finding out what any twelve year old with a PC and a phone could have discovered in an afternoon

 

No surprises there

 

What is worth noting is whether any action will be taken to stop us getting ripped off by this shameless monopoly

 

My prediction is that any moves to ensure a fair deal for us Manx will be met with a charm & free lunch offensive by the smooth operators of the SPC and our elected representatives will come home stuffed full of grub & on message

 

Spineless wankers

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you just have to look at the fact that the company, I believe it was sea containers bought the business, a business that make very little proffit for many millions of pounds.... so why would they do this..

 

unless they had been given a monopoly on the freight side...

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My prediction is that any moves to ensure a fair deal for us Manx will be met with a charm & free lunch offensive by the smooth operators of the SPC and our elected representatives will come home stuffed full of grub & on message

 

Spineless wankers

 

Nice phraseology!

 

Yep, that is how things is done here. They will be like puppy dogs after been given that tin of 'chum'.

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do they only have a monopoly in Douglas, as there is freight into Ramsey and there used to be an operation shipping into Castletown

 

~ mind you, the way Douglas harbour has been filled up with plastic boats which never move, there's not enough room even for half a dozen fishing boats to land what catch they can find, they are working on wrecking any other working ports we have filling them with more plastic boats which never go anywhere but 'look pretty' on calendars :(

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What is worth noting is whether any action will be taken to stop us getting ripped off by this shameless monopoly

That's the most important thing - if not then what is the point of the inquiry if this is then treated as a tediously inevitable fact of life.

 

It's easy to grumble and but what realistically can and should be done about this?

 

One option perhaps is competitive tenders every 5 years (or sooner if agreed service levels and standards are not met). Another would be to re-examine whether or not it is viable for more than one provider to be operating the service.

 

Another consideration is the nature of the service. Maybe some freight could be managed in better ways - with occasional (e.g. monthly or quarterly) container freight shipments, possibly operated by charter vessel. For non-urgent bulk shipments (e.g. recycling waste being sent to the UK, building materials, fertiliser and the like), it could be a great deal cheaper to do this and store and manage inventory rather than shipping via a passenger service ferry. Such a container service could perhaps be arranged as an en-route stop for one of the smaller existing container service in-out of Liverpool to European destinations.

 

At a guess I'd think upgrading ports and harbour facilities to handle landing from containers and dry bulk carriers would be a very much more worthwhile investment than the runway extension. It seems to me that the port facilities are the main bottleneck to competition (?). (It costs nearly as much to ship expensive fertiliser from wholesaler in Liverpool as it would to ship direct from producer in Qatar. With landing facilities for dry bulk carriers, that would be possible. Without it, then it is back to using the ferry).

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I'm not usually one for nationalisation, but in this case, I think it should be nationalised - but run by a private service company (put out to tender every five years or so) on our behalf. It's a lifeline, that affects many costs on the island - thus inflation etc. - and is a major blocker for people coming over here too. A private service company could still be given targets linked to passenger volume, freight, tourism, inflation etc. etc. etc. and still operate on a fair profit (e.g. fixed fee plus annual bonus).

 

Funny we can find £150 million to bail out a bank, but not realise what an impact all these charges have on the whole of the island.

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you just have to look at the fact that the company, I believe it was sea containers bought the business, a business that make very little proffit for many millions of pounds.... so why would they do this..

 

unless they had been given a monopoly on the freight side...

So, what would you call the user service agreement if not a monopoly for vehicle based freight?

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Any substance to the skeet that a local "firm" that may use hops, is buying heavily into local haulage companies.?

 

Cant think of a conspiracy with this, but im sure someone will help!

 

old news that, thay own 3 or 4 diffrent companys that do haulage have done for a few years

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