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Have been following a story about an old Debenhams site being turned into an activity area with karting and shit like that. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57934829

I don’t see the Summerland site ever being used again, and I think there is far too much risk involved in creating something out of old retail units such as Chester street or the Castle Mona.

Short trips to the UK are ok if you are that way inclined but it’s a crying shame we don’t have a big fun/leisure facility anymore.

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There are plenty of sites in and around Douglas. Lord Street could probably do with a big multi-storey carpark on top and some leisure facility underneath. I'm not sure those plans for the Travelodge and cinema will ever become reality. 

I'm curious what is happening with Castle Mona (I'm not a conservation anorak). There seemed to be loads of work and now maybe it's stopped again? 

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1 hour ago, AlanShimmin said:

 

I'm curious what is happening with Castle Mona (I'm not a conservation anorak). There seemed to be loads of work and now maybe it's stopped again? 

Run out of funds I believe.

We've missed our chance with the Summerland site. I can see it being permanent parking for works vehicles, parking for fairground workers when they come over again and in between it might get used by the tram network for storage.  It's a crying shame.

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2 hours ago, AlanShimmin said:

There are plenty of sites in and around Douglas. Lord Street could probably do with a big multi-storey carpark on top and some leisure facility underneath. I'm not sure those plans for the Travelodge and cinema will ever become reality. 

I'm curious what is happening with Castle Mona (I'm not a conservation anorak). There seemed to be loads of work and now maybe it's stopped again? 

Lord St being sold to a Chinese gaming firm as we speak. To become offices with retail, food and a casino.

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2 hours ago, Gladys said:

Instead of pissing £50m away on a terminal in Liverpool,  it would have been better spent incentivising some of these failed developments.  

Glad, I admire your doggedness in suggesting ways in which IOMG might inject logic, reason and common sense into its policy decisions. I really do.

You're also condemning yourself to a lifetime of disappointment.

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13 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

Lord St being sold to a Chinese gaming firm as we speak. To become offices with retail, food and a casino.

Wasn't it already sold though? 

 

The new buyer did the ice rink then wanted a car park but DOI said no until they did the border thing. 

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4 hours ago, immortalpuppet said:

I don’t see the Summerland site ever being used again

Aren't there problems with the stability of the cliff - hence part of the old aquadrome being left in place, and issues with the householders living above the site?

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1 hour ago, NoTailT said:

Lord St being sold to a Chinese gaming firm as we speak. To become offices with retail, food and a casino.

Leaving enough space for 6 banks of course. 

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1 hour ago, AlanShimmin said:

Wasn't it already sold though? 

 

The new buyer did the ice rink then wanted a car park but DOI said no until they did the border thing. 

Yes and that buyer is now selling it. Or that's what the old boy at Cowley Groves was telling me anyway.

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There is no appetite for leisure or commercial developers to invest here whilst our population is so small & house prices so high (and spiralling).

We need a huge increase in footfall everywhere but I'm afraid our housing policy has killed everything. We will remain stagnant for decades.

Sorry.

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4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Doom spreading again Nom?

I'm a glass half full guy by nature but I'm afraid I speak the truth on this one.

We need the next administration to prioritise the housing sector if this Island is to move forwards. Some very uncomfortable policy decisions to be made.

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6 minutes ago, Nom de plume said:

I'm a glass half full guy by nature but I'm afraid I speak the truth on this one.

We need the next administration to prioritise the housing sector if this Island is to move forwards. Some very uncomfortable policy decisions to be made.

But no matter how many houses get built there's no guarantee that they will become affordable.  The wealthy will just buy them up and let them out at high rents or just leave them vacant as an investment.  Unless you control the market directly, you can't rely on normal market forces to do so because there is a whole world (literally) of finance looking for safe places to invest.

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Just now, Roger Mexico said:

But no matter how many houses get built there's no guarantee that they will become affordable.  The wealthy will just buy them up and let them out at high rents or just leave them vacant as an investment.  Unless you control the market directly, you can't rely on normal market forces to do so because there is a whole world (literally) of finance looking for safe places to invest.

That is the conundrum and uncomfortable truth RM. As I say, without drastic (and I mean drastic) action this Island will sit & rot with little to no private investment.

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