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Immigration Office announce new English language requirement for migrants

 

http://www.three.fm/newscentre/isle-of-man-news/immigration-office-announce-new-english-language-requirement-for-migrants-3430

 

From now on all non-European migrants who want to extend their on Island stay will be required to show they can both speak and understand English.

 

The requirement was introduced on 28th February and must be met by anyone who is in a relationship with a British citizen, or a person settled here, or alternatively anyone who lives here as a husband, wife or civil partner.

 

They will need to prove their English speaking abilities in the visa application stage.

 

It will make it easier for the individuals to make use of facilities such as the education system, and more importantly the hospital, as upto this point there had been issues with non English speaking migrants communicating problems to front line medical staff.

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Immigration Office announce new English language requirement for migrants

 

http://www.three.fm/newscentre/isle-of-man-news/immigration-office-announce-new-english-language-requirement-for-migrants-3430

 

From now on all non-European migrants who want to extend their on Island stay will be required to show they can both speak and understand English.

 

The requirement was introduced on 28th February and must be met by anyone who is in a relationship with a British citizen, or a person settled here, or alternatively anyone who lives here as a husband, wife or civil partner.

 

They will need to prove their English speaking abilities in the visa application stage.

 

It will make it easier for the individuals to make use of facilities such as the education system, and more importantly the hospital, as upto this point there had been issues with non English speaking migrants communicating problems to front line medical staff.

 

We have ways of making them talk.

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Immigration Office announce new English language requirement for migrants

 

http://www.three.fm/newscentre/isle-of-man-news/immigration-office-announce-new-english-language-requirement-for-migrants-3430

 

From now on all non-European migrants who want to extend their on Island stay will be required to show they can both speak and understand English.

 

The requirement was introduced on 28th February and must be met by anyone who is in a relationship with a British citizen, or a person settled here, or alternatively anyone who lives here as a husband, wife or civil partner.

 

They will need to prove their English speaking abilities in the visa application stage.

 

It will make it easier for the individuals to make use of facilities such as the education system, and more importantly the hospital, as upto this point there had been issues with non English speaking migrants communicating problems to front line medical staff.

6/10 for Grammar. **** off home!

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I recently witnessed the downside of foreigners with desperately weak English working in a care home. Pleasant as the Phillippine(?) workers were, I didn't encounter a English/Manx member of staff at all and the poor elderly residents with their many problems, should expect to be spoken to in coherent English and have their own words understood. It is a small residence with little or no verbal stimulation from the staff as conversation was almost impossible. I greeted everyone and they seemed absolutely amazed to have been spoken to. It's upsetting me just remembering it.

 

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More petty bureaucracy. Bet the pseudo-Libertarians who bleat about the nanny state won't have a problem this pointless rule.

 

If there's a problem in Care Homes the Regulators of that industry should act (it's a very regulated industry as it is). Not impose a rule across everyone.

 

If someone meets a non-English speaker, falls in love, gets married, can support them (or the non-English speaker can support themselves) what harm is there letting them in.

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what harm is there letting them in.

 

 

Generally not much really.

 

Until said no English speaker is out for a nice walk alone, gets hit by a car, is allergic to some drug or other, gets given drug as they don't have the English to tell staff about their allergy and then dies.

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What happens if a Manx person with an allergy has an accident and is unconscious. Or a holiday maker who doesn't speak English has an accident? Or a deaf fella?

 

Better introduce a law banning people with allergies.

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what harm is there letting them in.

 

 

Generally not much really.

 

Until said no English speaker is out for a nice walk alone, gets hit by a car, is allergic to some drug or other, gets given drug as they don't have the English to tell staff about their allergy and then dies.

 

Fair point but would that not equally apply to any non English speaker holidaying anywhere other than their own country?

 

We are lucky that English is the sort of second language of the world but if you aint English I am sure they take precautions for allergy's and the like.

 

When I ski and travel alone I always have DogTag Insurance that you wear round your neck and your code number gives a doctor access to any important medical and personal details via a dedicated website.

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It will make it easier for the individuals to make use of facilities such as the ... the hospital, as upto this point there had been issues with non English speaking migrants communicating problems to front line medical staff.

There have been even more problems with English-speaking patients trying to communicate with hospital staff who either have such a poor grasp of the language, or such impenetrable accents, that the task is virtually impossible.

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i know what you mean Declan but remember that times are tight. There is an overhead in providing translators and interpreters, dual language documents etc not to mention the schools (which is touched on in another thread).

 

There comes a time when surely enough is enough and we say to people that if they want to be here its fine, but they must make sure that they can speak the lingo.

 

The wierd bit is that an EEA or Swiss citizen can arrive without any immigration controls and could have no grasp of the lingo at all. We're simply disciminating against non EEA citizens.

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What happens if a Manx person with an allergy has an accident and is unconscious. Or a holiday maker who doesn't speak English has an accident? Or a deaf fella?

 

Better introduce a law banning people with allergies.

 

I agree, but some one living on the island has a greater chance of needing emergency medical care at Nobles, a "deaf fella" should be able to write (assuming conciousness which we must if we are considering language as a barrier) an unconscious Manx person would have medical records.

 

I'm not in favour of forcing people to learn English to be aloud to stay here, just pointing out that it could be to their detriment not to learn.

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