NAIRB Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Cause we don't need it. Only that a car is old doesn't mean it's knackered and the efforts required to bring in MOTs stands in no relation to the benefit it would bring. You are obviously not grasping the situation or are like some other Manx residents i.e don't give a F***k on Monday I borrowed a mates car as it was a bit windy and thought it was better than using my bike I had brought with me (Cheaper on boat) and nearly got taken out with a bus or at worse demolished the scaffolding in Castletown square due to the absence of an adequate braking system when I got back I said you really need to get that car into a garage the response I am not spending any money on it my point being if there was an annual MOT in place on the Island this can't give a F***k attitude would not be allowed to put people at risk OK I know its not all the Vehicles on the Island that are un road worthy but like here in the UK it only takes one Bollocked car to cause grief to other road users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 MOTs don't really help. It does not prevent lights from blowing, tyres and brakes from wearing, etc. It does, however, pick up issues like worn steering or suspension, But, so does an annual service. sounds like a friend of mine who used to get his car serviced regularly at the company dealer and was told that he needed new brake discs, not that they were below minimum thickness 'but they may be' before it was next serviced ! (been polishing their crystal ball !) that was the final straw with that garage and he changed his car after that. imagine if they did MOTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 And driver 'basic proficiency' testing at 50, 60, 70, 75 and every two years thereafter to remove anyone without the physical and/or mental acuity to drive safely on Manx roads. Does this apply to us advanced motorists too, Stu? Anyway, maybe your suggested age range should be extended to apply to young inexperienced drivers, but these at 12 monthly intervals for males and every five years for females. Men of a certain age to be tested at six monthly intervals and women, not at all. Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAIRB Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 just because UK has dreamt up something doesn't mean we have to follow like sheep why don't we have riots ?, they have them in UK there is not enough of you for a start it would not be a riot just a crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 just because UK has dreamt up something doesn't mean we have to follow like sheep why don't we have riots ?, they have them in UK there is not enough of you for a start it would not be a riot just a crowd wiah I was clever like you Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAIRB Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 just because UK has dreamt up something doesn't mean we have to follow like sheep why don't we have riots ?, they have them in UK there is not enough of you for a start it would not be a riot just a crowd wiah I was clever like you Brian is wiah a Manx word, or have you just got fat fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing of the Nut Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 MOTs don't really help. It does not prevent lights from blowing, tyres and brakes from wearing, etc. It does, however, pick up issues like worn steering or suspension, But, so does an annual service. sounds like a friend of mine who used to get his car serviced regularly at the company dealer and was told that he needed new brake discs, not that they were below minimum thickness 'but they may be' before it was next serviced ! (been polishing their crystal ball !) I would suggest that this was based on experience. The garage I use regularly often informs me when replacement of parts may be needed. Sign of a good reliable garage that was the final straw with that garage and he changed his car after that. I would have thought that this was to be commended. imagine if they did MOTs I would imagine the same scenario of warning motorists of potential problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Cause we don't need it. Only that a car is old doesn't mean it's knackered and the efforts required to bring in MOTs stands in no relation to the benefit it would bring. You are obviously not grasping the situation or are like some other Manx residents i.e don't give a F***k on Monday I borrowed a mates car as it was a bit windy and thought it was better than using my bike I had brought with me (Cheaper on boat) and nearly got taken out with a bus or at worse demolished the scaffolding in Castletown square due to the absence of an adequate braking system when I got back I said you really need to get that car into a garage the response I am not spending any money on it my point being if there was an annual MOT in place on the Island this can't give a F***k attitude would not be allowed to put people at risk OK I know its not all the Vehicles on the Island that are un road worthy but like here in the UK it only takes one Bollocked car to cause grief to other road users. Then it would be nice of you to either tell your friend to get it fixed or report him to police if you believe it's a genuine danger when on the road. Maybe telling him his insurance will put his balls in a blender if he has a crash also helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAIRB Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Cause we don't need it. Only that a car is old doesn't mean it's knackered and the efforts required to bring in MOTs stands in no relation to the benefit it would bring. You are obviously not grasping the situation or are like some other Manx residents i.e don't give a F***k on Monday I borrowed a mates car as it was a bit windy and thought it was better than using my bike I had brought with me (Cheaper on boat) and nearly got taken out with a bus or at worse demolished the scaffolding in Castletown square due to the absence of an adequate braking system when I got back I said you really need to get that car into a garage the response I am not spending any money on it my point being if there was an annual MOT in place on the Island this can't give a F***k attitude would not be allowed to put people at risk OK I know its not all the Vehicles on the Island that are un road worthy but like here in the UK it only takes one Bollocked car to cause grief to other road users. Then it would be nice of you to either tell your friend to get it fixed or report him to police if you believe it's a genuine danger when on the road. Maybe telling him his insurance will put his balls in a blender if he has a crash also helps. As I said in the post, you really need to get that car into a garage, but I don't know about you, I don't go around reporting friends to the police, how many mates would you end up with?, no the best option is to bring my own vehicle bit more money on the boat but it is safe , and hopefully after running the Manx gauntlet with an UK reg vehicle I will get home in one piece with a bit of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Does anybody know why we dont have an M O T on the Isle of Man seems to be a lot of old cars roaming the streets? ASBO's and curfews, that'll keep 'em off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Non Manx people are shocked when I tell them this, it seems to be a complete anomaly. On a practical level, does anyone know what would happen if you were stopped driving your Manx registered vehicle in a country that requires an annual roadworthiness test, and you did not possess a certificate? I often wonder how I would explain this one to the Guardia Civil! as in: "Do you hold a full UK driving licence?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The sooner we introduce recurrent vehicle and driver testing, the better IMHO. Whilst the MOT vehicle test may have been a bit of a racket in the UK (test centres/garages creating unnecessary work), we could avoid that by having dedicated licensed test centres around the island, creating jobs, putting money into Treasury and getting rid of some of the wrecks which (amongst other things) leak diesel all over the roads. And driver 'basic proficiency' testing at 50, 60, 70, 75 and every two years thereafter to remove anyone without the physical and/or mental acuity to drive safely on Manx roads. RIP Lottie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The sooner we introduce recurrent vehicle and driver testing, the better IMHO. Whilst the MOT vehicle test may have been a bit of a racket in the UK (test centres/garages creating unnecessary work), we could avoid that by having dedicated licensed test centres around the island, creating jobs, putting money into Treasury and getting rid of some of the wrecks which (amongst other things) leak diesel all over the roads. And driver 'basic proficiency' testing at 50, 60, 70, 75 and every two years thereafter to remove anyone without the physical and/or mental acuity to drive safely on Manx roads. You seem to be conflating two very different things, Stu. On one, the MOT test, we are completely out of line with the rest of the western world, on the other, we would be putting ourselves out of line with the rest of the western world. Don't divert attention from the MOT test issue, if we need one, we need one, and that needs to come first. Let's get ourselves up to the standard of the rest of the world before we worry about getting ahead of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Just saying, is all. If I was a politician suggesting it in Tynwald or Keys I'd do it a step at a time, but I think they are both sensible suggestions worthy of discussion. Addie - yes, me too. What's sauce for the goose etc. Naturally being the world's best driver would stand me in good stead with the examiner, and he'd also be smitten by Lottie's turbocharged charms. One day I will be too old and derelict to drive, but at the moment they'd have to prise the licence out of my cold, dead fingers before I'd give it up...needs legislation to force the issue, and as someone else has noted, reduce the number of cars on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Non Manx people are shocked when I tell them this, it seems to be a complete anomaly. On a practical level, does anyone know what would happen if you were stopped driving your Manx registered vehicle in a country that requires an annual roadworthiness test, and you did not possess a certificate? I often wonder how I would explain this one to the Guardia Civil! as in: "Do you hold a full UK driving licence?" That's not what I meant, although they do look faintly puzzled when I show my Manx licence in Spain. It's more the worry that If I was stopped and had to show my papers, they would see from the "log book" that my vehicle is over three years old, and expect me to be able to show a valid vehicle test certificate. I guess I'd have to hope "no tenemos estas cosas en Isla de Man" would be acceptable to them. Maybe we should get an exemption certificate to show in such circumstances? Edited August 11, 2011 by guzzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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