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Steam Packet Warns Of Disruption To Sailings


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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

It’s a direct response to your crazy hypothesis that the bread argument is being used to allow purchase out of the Green bond funds.

As Gladys says bread is a metaphor for essential supplies to the island if the Ben breaks down before Manxman arrives, or at times of peak demand thereafter. For all sorts of reasons Arrow will be much cheaper to operate as a relief boat than Ben.

Number of crew being the main one probably.

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4 hours ago, BriT said:

Crazy hypothesis (when it was no hypothesis) when a crazy story about paying £9 million to secure bread supplies is the main justification used? 

Tynwald swallowed a hypothesis about the population starving if we didn't throw farmers £7M a year to produce nothing too...

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10 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

What's going on with the boat?

Not a single sailing available next week to the Island?! Only one boat working?

Ben going into dry dock for repairs. Sailings cover by Manannan to and from Heysham. Arrow handling the freight. 
 

I was on the Ben on Monday, the water tanks were contaminated so there were no hot drinks available and food served on disposable plates with cutlery. 

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22 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

What's going on with the boat?

Not a single sailing available next week to the Island?! Only one boat working?

https://www.steam-packet.com/information/news/2022/Oct/SPCMR001-October_Schedule_Changes_BMC_dock

Although that does not explain why you cannot book the replacement journeys.

Perhaps the DfE November tourist campaign has been exceptionally successful.

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18 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

There we have it. The new £70m+ ferry terminal (shed) on Merseyside will get 2 sailings a week through the winter. 

Depending on the Weather, and or other factors. It could 1 or less. Anything is possible. 
 

ETA - having just seen the timetables, it’s really not a good use of both the resources of new boat and the new terminal. Be prepared for an expensive and long ferry journey, being quoted as taking 4 hour and 15 minutes, the same as Birkenhead. So far if you sailed to Liverpool instead of Birkenhead you are saving the cost of Mersey Tunnel Toll. I would rather have paid the Toll, and perhaps we could have saved £70m+. 

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3 hours ago, 2112 said:

Depending on the Weather, and or other factors. It could 1 or less. Anything is possible. 
 

ETA - having just seen the timetables, it’s really not a good use of both the resources of new boat and the new terminal. Be prepared for an expensive and long ferry journey, being quoted as taking 4 hour and 15 minutes, the same as Birkenhead. So far if you sailed to Liverpool instead of Birkenhead you are saving the cost of Mersey Tunnel Toll. I would rather have paid the Toll, and perhaps we could have saved £70m+. 

Except Birkenhead was no longer available, after the conversion of the link span to a two level link for the e-flexers.

Ive sailed, twice on an e-flexer, boarding and disembarking in Portsmouth from Bilbao. The new ferries, Galicia, Salamanca and Santona, are sister ships to the Stena Irish route ferries. In fact they’re owned by Stena and chartered to Brittany Ferries.

Speed of loading and unloading is enhanced. With freight going onto deck 4 garage and cars onto deck 4.  

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The Scottish Executive is ordering two of these for the Islay service.

Perhaps instead of getting a new fast craft, or a second Manxman, we could get two of these to provide an all year round, nimble, flexible, service to Liverpool, Dublin, Belfast. Perhaps a summer service to Scotland.

Capacity:  450 passengers and 100 cars or 14 commercial. £45 million each.

Caledonian Maritime Assets are to spend £600 million on new tonnage between now and end 2026. That’s on top of the rumoured £500 million on the as yet undelivered Glen Sannox and her unnamed sister hull 802 - still languishing, 5 years late, at Ferguson Marine on the Clyde.

 

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2 minutes ago, John Wright said:

The Scottish Executive is ordering two of these for the Islay service.

Perhaps instead of getting a new fast craft, or a second Manxman, we could get two of these to provide an all year round, nimble, flexible, service to Liverpool, Dublin, Belfast.

 

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IOMG doesn’t do nimble, or flexible anything. It would be nice if SPC could sail to Belfast, Dublin all year round. 

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11 minutes ago, swoopy2110 said:

Could you imagine bobbing round on that thing during December though!

 

It’s 98 metres. It’s designed for exposed sea crossings. Looks sleek and a good sea boat. I’m wondering about handling of Manxman with her slab sides in winter.

Couldn't be any worse that going on the SeaCat this week.

The two islay ones had the first metalwork cut this week. They’re due in service 2025 and 2026. They’re planned to be the first of a class of 6-8 sisterships, so it’ll be a well proved design by the time it comes to ordering the Mannanan replacement.

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