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In todays Examiner Planning permission has been given for a new football pitch, club house and carpark for Onchan football club juniors. The permission was granted by the Council of Minister who have overturned a decision of an independent planning inspector who refused the application for the following reasons:

Harmful effect on the open character and appearance of the surrounding area.

Insufficient evidence for the need of the proposed pitch, clubhouse and car park.

 

The land is owned by

the department of Infrastructure

Why bother going through the whole charade of planning process in the first place.At least the CoM have assured themselves of Davis Quirk's loyalty for this term. So much for open and fair government.

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It'll be a nice site for Heritage Homes in ~ 5 years.

A key difference with Laxey is they're ultimately in control of the pitch, its use and its ongoing maintenance. With the stadium, outside of Saturday afternoon - it's subject to Onchan Raceway (and th

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The one thing we're not short of on the Island is football pitches. Including the schools we've got dozens of them and most are unused 95% of the time. How many are there for instance within a five mile radius of Onchan ?

 

To be fair in Onchan not many. They play at the Stadium which gets churned up by the stock cars and the risk of serious injury is real, pretty much the same for Nobles park but both their pitches are already rented out. I can't see a down side to this it means kids have a place to go and play football rather than be stuck in doors or moaning theres no where to go

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To be fair in Onchan not many. They play at the Stadium which gets churned up by the stock cars and the risk of serious injury is real, pretty much the same for Nobles park but both their pitches are already rented out. I can't see a down side to this it means kids have a place to go and play football rather than be stuck in doors or moaning theres no where to go

 

I agree more to do is a good thing, but how about some variety rather than more football pitches? Onchans one of the few districts without a bmx or skate track for example.

 

As for the proposal:

- I can't believe a new pitch is cheaper than sorting out the drainage in the stadium

- Is there really a need for a pitch right next to an existing one?

- were the douglas clubs not kicked off nobles park, so those are hardly used?

- ashley hill has a large field that's unused, wouldn't that be a better site for a pitch without having to destroy a field?

 

Agree with the first poster, seems the planning process has been steamrollered. Disappointing.

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I agree it's good for the kids Thommo, but I do question the real need. When I was a kid I'd have been very happy growing up in and 'knocking around' Onchan. It's on a main bus and tram route, close to Groudle Glen, Douglas beach, ideal for watching the T.T., Onchan Park, Port Jack, Summerhill Glen, the Clypse reservoirs, a new school opening in September, several play areas, KEB golf club, Laserblast, five minutes from Douglas and ten minutes from Laxey, more open spaces than you can shake a stick at etc. etc. The place is a kid's paradise for heaven's sake...

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Douglas Royals and Corinthians built their own pitch up Ballamona and now Douglas and District play on Nobles Park

 

So Nobles was hosting two clubs and now only one? Doesn't that mean there's a vacancy? Wasn't a very nice set of changing rooms installed at nobles at the public expense very recently?

 

I agree it's good for the kids Thommo, but I do question the real need. When I was a kid I'd have been very happy growing up in and 'knocking around' Onchan. It's on a main bus and tram route, close to Groudle Glen, Douglas beach, ideal for watching the T.T., Onchan Park, Port Jack, Summerhill Glen, the Clypse reservoirs, a new school opening in September, several play areas, KEB golf club, Laserblast, five minutes from Douglas and ten minutes from Laxey, more open spaces than you can shake a stick at etc. etc. The place is a kid's paradise for heaven's sake...

 

If only it had a skate park and bmx track smile.png

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I don't necessarily see that much value in BMX tracks and sometimes wonder what sort of values it teaches kids. I know we've got to move with the times but I'd take the street games and team sports in which we played together and became socialised as kids over some of the essentially selfish and narcissistic 'sports' that as far as I can see is a part of what's turning some of our kids into little competitive monsters.

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One of the major reasons Onchan needed another football pitch is, that it would be soley for use of the Junior Teams, and one of the planning conditions was that no one over the age of 18 can play there, so no need for an alcohol licence for the clubhouse,

 

The main reason behind getting this pitch Is that when Onchan Commissioners gave the tenancy for the Bowl to the Stockcar people, it meant that they also had control of the use of the pitch at the Stadium, so on a Sunday which is when the Juniors play their games, more often than not, they were told they couldn't play there as they were going to operate Stockcars or Go Karts, this meant that the Onchan Teams had to play most of their games, on the away teams ground, which meant increased travelling and more expense

I think David Quirk who is the driving force behind this project deserves a big pat on the back for his efforts, and hope it all comes to fruition

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I have ties to the club (and grew up in Onchan) - so won't hide that fact.

 

In simple terms - since starting junior football, the membership has grown significantly and that increase in numbers doesn't appear to be diminishing. This growth in numbers is apparent at every club - the sport is simply more popular nowadays. I'll add, this isn't simply kids moving from other clubs - this also includes entirely new players to the sport (the Junior FA has many initiatives in this regard).

 

In regards to the schools - you're right, there are plenty of pitches, however - none are available for use by the club (which has at least 8 different teams across age-groups). Most (all) schools won't let teams use the facilities for games (outright) or training regularly during term time. This you can understand, naturally they want to maximise the use of their own facility and minimise over-use. The exception to this rule was RYCOB because the new school was built on their pitch.

 

There is an opportunity to utilise the new Bemahague schools' flood-lit \ all-weather facilities for training, however despite being an Onchan club - it doesn't guarantee the use of the facilities. Most all-weather pitches tend to over-subscribed at peak times, the exception being the later spots (8:30 - 10:00pm), which seniors use - but it is clearly too late for kids. Naturally, there is plenty of interest from other clubs.

 

As Maxmann pointed out, there's restrictions relating to planning to further reinforce the aims of the project (e.g. no bar, camping etc).

 

When I grew up in Onchan, there wasn't any structured junior football (you went to Douglas for that). For a short-time, there was a Junior setup called Kiondroghad - but all games were played away. Granted, not everyone is a fan of football - but it is one of the more popular sports on the Island and it is (one of many) great past-time for kids. I would imagine the same applies to other clubs, but the emphasis of junior football at Onchan is very much around fun and enjoyment. Granted, there are some very talented players - and some less so, but kids don't distinguish.

 

This may sound a little cliché, this isn't a case that David Quirk has pushed it through, behind the scenes there's been a large group of people involved throughout the process, volunteers and sponsors who've been working tirelessly to progress junior football for years now, with the sole aim to provide better facilities for the junior setup. In terms of planning - what may not be apparent from the article is this has been a long running process, with applications, consultations, meetings, hearings etc. with interested parties etc. It's not a case this was steam-rolled through.

 

People have their own views on football (and Mr Quirk) - however - the intentions of this initiative are genuine, all avenues have been explored and this isn't some planning conspiracy - it really is about providing a good base for Junior football.

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Thanks for that joeyconcrete and well done to all people who have been involved.

 

David Quirk has jumped onto the bandwagon as show in the Examiner this week.

 

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I'm sick of seeing this clown latching onto every Onchan opportunity he can, such as wearing a 'Manx tartan' kilt like a skirt, supporting (ie vote catching) with the Onchan Silver Band at the guild.

 

For good reason the people of Onchan rejected David Quirk in his first six attempts to become an MHK. Since squeezing in he has engratiated himself with whoever he can at every opportunity.

 

Expect to see the Clown Prince of Tynwald back in after the 2016 general election.

 

 

 

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