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when I saw a dog bounding over off the lead. I though it'd be good for him to socialise this early and do him good so let things go to see what happens.

 

I do not care whether dogs are on or off the leash as long as it is under control. We used to have a dog and around town and have it on a lead it did not really need to be as had been taught to walk almost at heel. Away from a town it would be off the leash but if it saw a person, sheep or another dog would not go bounding up to them and if called would immediatly come back to heel.

 

If your dog will not do that it is not under control. Yes it may only run up to another dog or a person/child wanting to be friendly but how do you know that other dog will not react badly or the person or child be scared. A medium size dog running straight towards a 4 year old kid wagging its tail it probably a scary sight for a 4 year old. How does the child or parent know if that dog running up to them is friendly or aggressive?

 

I generally dislike the use these days of these extendable leads as they enable the dog to run around all over the place and do not teach the dog to walk quietly when on a lead. I do not see them much these days. maybe they are banned for being cruel, but years ago the standard lead for walking a dog was the choke collar. If the dog strained at the leash it was slightly choked teaching the dog to walk almost at heal. These days even if on a lead many dogs you see are straining at it. I do not consider that under control.

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If a dog hurt one of my kids, I would kill it, locate the owner (at leisure, not straight away), tie him up and burn his family while he watched, before doing the same to him

 

Were a knuckle dragger to hurt one of my dogs I would pay for him to be tied up, ...

 

I could make MDO look like a nice cuddly toy.

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If a dog hurt one of my kids, I would kill it, locate the owner (at leisure, not straight away), tie him up and burn his family while he watched, before doing the same to him

Whilst it is understandably undesirable to have unruly dogs at large,it is even more worrying to have nutters at large in society.

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Lost Login.If your dog will not do that it is not under control. Yes it may only run up to another dog or a person/child wanting to be friendly but how do you know that other dog will not react badly or the person or child be scared. A medium size dog running straight towards a 4 year old kid wagging its tail it probably a scary sight for a 4 year old. How does the child or parent know if that dog running up to them is friendly or aggressive? ''

 

This is the problem that we face, why should we have to feel cautious when being approached by any of the ''dangerous' dogs?

I can't be the only person that wonders if the dog coming towards me is safe. This does not do us, our kids or indeed dogs in general any good, it can taint our feeling towards all dogs and that is a shame for a dog loving society.

 

As a society, many of us have a desire to have a dog at some time in our lives, the pshycological succor of dependancy, companionship and the general feeling of happiness that a dog can give us is recognised by many to be of great value to us. What a shame that this is now tempered by the worry of 'dangerous' dogs even if this is a perception or a mis-conception.

 

What we want is a dog, sometimes we seek a certain breed but mostly any dog will do. In view of this , what I would propose is an Island ban of certain breeds / types of dogs, that is , the ones we percieve or are known to be dangerous or of such a size or jaw type that should one become aggressive it can do most damage.

 

There will still be many non-dangerous dogs to choose from.

 

Let me say straight away, I do NOT propose any cull of existing dogs but that we could....

 

*** Certain breeds, styles to be banned from import and breeding on the Island.

*** Current examples to be allowed to live out their lives.

*** The proscribed list can refer to a 'Type' rather than a specific genetic 'Breed'.

 

This would result over a period of some ten years the removal from the Island od these undesirable types, dogs not the owners unfortunately, we can then get back to regarding dogs as a companion rather than a fashion accessory.

 

There would be problems to sort, what of dogs that get pregnant accidentally? Should they be aborted or the puppies exported?

What of People wanting to move to the Island with one of the proscribed types? A lower age limit for import?

Sould medically, genetically problem dogs be proscribed?

 

I believe that most 'responsible' dog owners would be happy to choose an alternative if their favourite or p[ast ownership type were to become not available.

 

It could mean that those People who choose a certain breed for it macho appearance would not have a dog if these were not available and that could be a good thing as I percieve these owners not to be 'responsible'.

 

The list of proscribed types would be controversial, not just the Bull Terrier types but some types that we do not necessarily recognise as 'dangerous'.

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As for Akita's isn't that a banned bread of dog and you need a special licence to own one?

 

In the UK, yes: http://uk.answers.ya...26121227AAMhDRf

 

Akita's aren't a banned breed in the UK or IOM, there are 4 breeds which are banned the Pit Bull, Japanese tosa, Dogo Argentino & Fila Brasileiro

 

ETA. the dangerous dogs act means that a dog that looks of a similar type to any of those breeds could be seized, if say you had a cross breed of a staffie put to a boxer and that could produce a dog that looks similar to a pit bull then the dog could be seized, regardless of it's temperament

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Akita's aren't a banned breed in the UK or IOM

 

Agreed, it's an erroneous answer on Yahoo!

 

FWIW in some countries dog owners and the dog have to pass a course (or at least attend a course) if the dog is over a certain weight. Here in my Canton it's 15kg, one of my dogs is > 15kg, she slept through the whole thing.

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Good post Kopek, having been the victim of dogs attacks, more could be done to prevent these incidents rather than waiting for something to happen to prove a dog is dangerous. This of course needs balancing with an increasingly risk-adverse society where all dogs must be on a lead, muzzled, banned from all public places and wear a nappy.

 

 

If a dog hurt one of my kids, I would kill it, locate the owner (at leisure, not straight away), tie him up and burn his family while he watched, before doing the same to him

 

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Kopek that's flawed, a labrador (which would be on the list of ok dogs) can be aggresive and do as much damage as any other breed, all dogs mouths are desgined to rip & crunch, rip the skin/meat & crunch the bone (i don't mean of people but food wise)

 

The only difference is pit bulls, rotts, staffs, boxers, dobes, bulldogs etc have the stronger jaws meaning they can hold on longer in an attack sitution but i would say if a labrador was going for the kill it'd hold on just as long aswell

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The only difference is pit bulls, rotts, staffs, boxers, dobes, bulldogs etc have the stronger jaws meaning they can hold on longer in an attack sitution but i would say if a labrador was going for the kill it'd hold on just as long aswell

 

I wonder if it might be more productive to prevent dangerous owners rather than dangerous dogs?

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Kopek - How about just making it really simple. You have to pass a test to get a dog. Written and practical. Any 'good' dog owner wouldn't object if it meant we could all enjoy our four legged friends (or fiends looking at GD4ELI's monsters:)

Sure, we still get bad drivers on the roads but just think how much worse it would be without the driving test. Costs would have to be able to cover themselves but maybe, unlike the driving test, you could have mass participatory tests to keep costs down. It may help cut down on what is the only real problem - cr4p owners.

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