Pierrot Lunaire 2,275 Posted October 17, 2012 After the double fatality in Manchester recently, there were many who thought that it was time to arm the police. I'm not a fan of this idea myself. And here's one reason why. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slinkydevil 3,697 Posted October 17, 2012 Wasn't there a similar case of a man carrying a wooden table leg who was shot because they thought it was a sawn off shotgun? EDIT: here you go http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/oct/29/ukcrime1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruger 57 Posted October 17, 2012 This is the trouble, their to much of a joke!. What about the fecking do-gooder who reported him to the police as carrying a “samurai sword”?. Should of gone to specsavers much?!.You couldn't make it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manxman1980 1,291 Posted October 17, 2012 The majority of the Police force are not in favour of being armed either! I do not believe that had the officers who were killed in Manchester been armed it would have made any difference to the outcome. Last reports were that one officer had removed her Taser to use - surely it takes the same time to remove the Taser and it does a fire arm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x-in-man 1,977 Posted October 17, 2012 Good God NO! Can you imagine the scene at Nobles A&E when they all turn up on the second day of being armed .. having shot themselves by accident. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slinkydevil 3,697 Posted October 17, 2012 Good God NO! Can you imagine the scene at Nobles A&E when they all turn up on the second day of being armed .. having shot themselves by accident. "The other guy had a gun!!" "Yeah he's your colleague." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P.K. 4,308 Posted October 17, 2012 This is the trouble, their to much of a joke!. Agreed. It should be in the 'Jokes' section between 'Balanced Budget' and 'Democracy'. What about the fecking do-gooder who reported him to the police as carrying a “samurai sword”?. Should of gone to specsavers much?!.You couldn't make it up. A drunk carrying a samurai sword was later arrested by some sensible officers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MilitantDogOwner 307 Posted October 17, 2012 Hell no. Only specialist officers deployed in certain situations. The general rank and file police officer is not mentally prepared for the potential of an armed conflict situation. This is why the Armed Forces drill their personnel continously, to prepare them for the stresses of the battlefield. You can't expect the rank and file office to do every day policing (writing parking tickets and interviewing about a break in, etc) to the engage in a armed situation. This is why armed police officers are specially selected and trained. Being armed would not made the slightest bit of difference to the situation in Manchester. They were ambushed by an assailant with the intention of killing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macmannin 105 Posted October 17, 2012 The armed officers were not so special regarding Jean Charles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MilitantDogOwner 307 Posted October 17, 2012 The armed officers were not so special regarding Jean Charles. The officer who shot JCM, had been a member of the Mets "elite" SO19 teams, although he had never fired a shot in a live fire situation in the 12 years he had been a firearms officer. I remember reading a book by one of SO19's "elite" officers, and he claimed they saw more action that the SAS. Yeah......seems legit. Maybe the armed response role should be taken from the police and handled by the Armed Forces, who are better equipped and better trained to deal with "combat" situations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruger 57 Posted October 17, 2012 A drunk carrying a samurai sword was later arrested by some sensible officers.... Cheers. Not so bad then, I just saw an earlier news article about it which didn’t mention that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immortalpuppet 199 Posted October 17, 2012 Christ no, different mindsets and training. Instinctive firing of a weapon is different to the way police officers are trained to use force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 5,070 Posted October 17, 2012 Personally I think all IoM Constabulary officers should be armed. Just something else for the Govt. to blow a fortune on, more toys for the boys. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey boy 2,624 Posted October 17, 2012 I don't think they're ready for guns just yet. They haven't got the hang of driving police cars yet - one thing at a time eh. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 4,905 Posted October 17, 2012 The majority of the Police force are not in favour of being armed either! I do not believe that had the officers who were killed in Manchester been armed it would have made any difference to the outcome. Last reports were that one officer had removed her Taser to use - surely it takes the same time to remove the Taser and it does a fire arm... a taser doesn't have the range of a gun though, she might aswell have been holding a knife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
