Sentience 387 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 everyone seems concerned with the length of these articulated buses, but do you know how heavy they are? 20 tonne unladen and 28 fully laden. one of these coming down the Richmond on a frosty day will be all over the place. If anything, new vehicles will have far better braking systems with ABS that even a monkey could drive down Richmond hill in bad weather without crashing. The fully laden weight you quote is less than a big HGV and they get down OK. I am not in favor of bendy buses despite my recent posts, I just cant stand some of the "Man In Pub Bollocks" that is posted on here, which seems to be aimed at trying to stop their introduction, it wont, the island does not work that way. If we are getting bendys, it will have been decided already, nothing we can say or make up, will do anything to change that. That is the shame of our so called 'democratic governmen't. The hurt of this current financial situation is ONLYshared by the man in the street. NOT by those elected to look after our well being and this is just a prime example. Hey gang, what about those who REALLY need help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Will Halsall 378 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) everyone seems concerned with the length of these articulated buses, but do you know how heavy they are? 20 tonne unladen and 28 fully laden. one of these coming down the Richmond on a frosty day will be all over the place. If anything, new vehicles will have far better braking systems with ABS that even a monkey could drive down Richmond hill in bad weather without crashing. The fully laden weight you quote is less than a big HGV and they get down OK. I am not in favor of bendy buses despite my recent posts, I just cant stand some of the "Man In Pub Bollocks" that is posted on here, which seems to be aimed at trying to stop their introduction, it wont, the island does not work that way. If we are getting bendys, it will have been decided already, nothing we can say or make up, will do anything to change that. But they won't be new, they will be 7-10 years old based on the prices the clowns are quoting. Which is the same age as the Double Deckers they are replacing. And that isn't "Man In Pub Bollocks", that is based on the "Men in Government Bollocks". Not a pop at you BR just a fact based on the shite that GCCL are quoting to the media. Edited November 22, 2012 by Will Halsall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierrot Lunaire 2,276 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And if one bendy bus should accidentally stall? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick 207 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 the question for me is, why is a government running a bus service at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lisenchuk 4,501 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And if one bendy bus should accidentally stall? There'll be only nine bendy buses left to crash into a wall 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mal48 62 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Had a day trip to Liverpool yesterday, courtesy of the NHS, and saw a couple of bendy busses in operation. On the way to the airport in rush hour on a major road out of the city a bendy bus trying to make a right turn managed to block all four roads of the junction for a few minutes.We dont have suitable roads for them in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yin & Yang 378 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Does anyone on here know the maximum capacity for buses on the IOM? Or does it simply depend on what type of licence the driver holds? I'm convinced that there is a maximum limit on how many passengers are allowed to travel either standing or sitting - if so the bendy buses would be useless! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Had a day trip to Liverpool yesterday, courtesy of the NHS, and saw a couple of bendy busses in operation. On the way to the airport in rush hour on a major road out of the city a bendy bus trying to make a right turn managed to block all four roads of the junction for a few minutes.We dont have suitable roads for them in my opinion. FFS Bendy buses do not need wider roads, more room or bigger turning areas. Bendy buses do not cause "all four roads to be blocked", it's stupid fucking drivers that cause any problem. I have travelled on these bendy buses many times and as a driver myself see fuck all wrong with them, either in size, design or operation. Most of the drivers here will have no problem with them. Pretty sure Henry Ford faced similar opposition back in the day. I just wish people would think about what they type, when they oppose things they know fuck all about. Sorry for the swearing, but knobends piss me off ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mal48 62 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 What an offensive post, no wonder the numbers of posters appears to be declining. I simply stated what I had witnessed and expressed an opinion and in 294 posts I have never found need to swear but from your name you could be welsh which would explain a lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slinkydevil 5,061 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I heard from a guy in the newsagents, whose brother-in-law said he was speaking to his wife's cousin and he said that bendy buses catch fire and will kill everyone on board because the doors stop working. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 What an offensive post, no wonder the numbers of posters appears to be declining. I simply stated what I had witnessed and expressed an opinion and in 294 posts I have never found need to swear but from your name you could be welsh which would explain a lot Why are you offended? I am just pointing out that you are talking rubbish. The driver of the bus you were on caused the problem, not the bus. When some idiot blocks of the QB through stupidity, do you blame the car they are driving or the driver. BTW Dilligaf is NOT a Welsh name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I heard from a guy in the newsagents, whose brother-in-law said he was speaking to his wife's cousin and he said that bendy buses catch fire and will kill everyone on board because the doors stop working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hissingsid 3,675 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 so the bendy bus's will be able to stop outside the Manx Arms and outside the Bank opposite without blocking the road, dilligaff you are either an idiot or the longtail himself, if you are I claim my £5.00. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manxy 1,478 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 On a straight road, they look to be reasonably good value, particularly at certain times of the day, but that said, corners, parked vehicles /obstructions /tight angles etc, would likely be a nightmare and I don't envy the drivers in this task. There's plenty of scare stories, various facts and figures about and one could wonder if the person who decided to purchase the vehicles regardless of the right reasons initially, has been forced into a corner and like a bendy bus, can't manouever backwards. The answer probably lies with the drivers themselves and considering their knowlege of the routes, pitfalls, angles etc, they would know if the buses are acceptable to the different and various routes on the island. On this occasion, I'd say let them have a free say on whether they consider the vehicles are worthy of the money spent on them or not and then decisions can be made from those with some experience of what's involved and not some person behind a desk with little thought given to the stops along the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
localyokel 496 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Dress it up however you like but someone has decided we need bendy buses because: 1. They are cheap 2. Nobody else wants them 3. Operators and leasing companies are sat on hundreds of them they cant sell 4. Passengers and town councils alike hate them 5. There are all sorts of deals being offered to shift stock because of situations 1, 2, 3 & 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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