manxie44 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have no real preference between living here, and any one of a number of places in the UK, Ireland, Europe or the world. I may be sad, but I select to live and bring my kids here because my family live here, my wifes family live here, and our friends live here. I have lived in other places for periods of time, but ultimately it would have to be a LOT better than here, or the job opportunities would have to be a ot better than here to move me and the kids away from grandparents, and extended family. Sadly there are not many like you around. Those of us left at the end of the exodus however, will have even more of what you mention to enjoy. Can't come quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugger Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have no real preference between living here, and any one of a number of places in the UK, Ireland, Europe or the world. I may be sad, but I select to live and bring my kids here because my family live here, my wifes family live here, and our friends live here. I have lived in other places for periods of time, but ultimately it would have to be a LOT better than here, or the job opportunities would have to be a ot better than here to move me and the kids away from grandparents, and extended family. Sadly there are not many like you around. Those of us left at the end of the exodus however, will have even more of what you mention to enjoy. Can't come quick enough. Indeed, you just won't have any money at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matilda33 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I really love the island. I have been back for 10 years now and have watched both of my children grow up in a very safe and nurturing environment. That has been great. My main worry is the opportunities that will be here for them. I would much rather that they leave the island through choice than compulsion as I had to in the 80s. Even so, I have absolutely no desire to go back to England even if it would increase their chances (and that is very doubtful now). There are some fantastic places and a lot of things I miss (like proper markets, quick access to a change of environment or airports). But when I tot it all up. I would rather be here than there; it suits, it fits and I feel part of the place. I never really felt part of the bits of the UK I lived in for a total of 20 years. I guess that is why you would want to be anywhere despite the material advantages or disadvantages. This absolutely says it all for me, Gladys. The IoM in the late seventies/early eighties, for me anyway, was more depressing and claustrophobic than it is today. It's all subjective, though. Some people, in fact more than not, never get away from here and experience life 'across'. Most don't feel the need to, nowt wrong with that but broadening ones horizons can only be a good thing. I agree with your last bit about getting away and experience life "across" I did it for 10 years, made me the confident and "street wise" person that I am. Didnt come back by choice but I am still making the most of it and very happy where I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Could be worse, you could live in Nazi Ger.....sorry the US. The video of the incident at the bottom of the page beggars belief.... http://www.rawstory....tm_medium=email Edited December 21, 2012 by Lxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I left the Island a year ago and can honestly say I miss it. Maybe that is the best test of a place being good to live. Do you miss it if you leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I've enjoyed the excitement of having an adventure in other places, but I'm very happy return to be near the people who mean the most to me in all the world. But this would be the case if these people happened to be in the Lakes or elsewhere. My parents were exactly the same and yearned to be 'home' once again. Maybe it's an island thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The best places I have been to are Islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1978 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I can't understand for the life of me the repeated references to a 'good/better education system' here. I have found it (via my kids) to be terrible. It is a genuine worry of mine and the schools here don't seem to be a patch on the ones they used to attend. I am under no doubts that after leaving England at the top of their respective class, my kids would re-enter the same class as 'average' amongst their peers as a direct result of attending school here for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I can't understand for the life of me the repeated references to a 'good/better education system' here. I have found it (via my kids) to be terrible. It is a genuine worry of mine and the schools here don't seem to be a patch on the ones they used to attend. I am under no doubts that after leaving England at the top of their respective class, my kids would re-enter the same class as 'average' amongst their peers as a direct result of attending school here for a few years. I say Scotland has the best education system. The English system is a stupidly over complicated post code lottery. I can't comment on the Manx system because I did not go through it. But I do have experience of changing Schools because of having to relocate for my personal reasons. And that's not easy for a kid. I changed schools within the same system and my performance went down. I suspect your experience would be the same if you moved from Bradford to Newcastle. It's not the schools fault. It's the move. It will work out in the end tho. The Island is the best place in Europe for kids tho. Without a doubt. So you made the right move :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1978 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Agreed, lovely place to play etc and yes a move within the UK could have meant a worse school also. However, their school here isn't as good imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localyokel Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I have no real preference between living here, and any one of a number of places in the UK, Ireland, Europe or the world. I may be sad, but I select to live and bring my kids here because my family live here, my wifes family live here, and our friends live here. I have lived in other places for periods of time, but ultimately it would have to be a LOT better than here, or the job opportunities would have to be a ot better than here to move me and the kids away from grandparents, and extended family. Sadly there are not many like you around. Those of us left at the end of the exodus however, will have even more of what you mention to enjoy. Can't come quick enough. When it does hopefully you won't feel too much of a knob sitting in your £25,000 pound house paying off your £100,000 mortgage until you get your non existent pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bawden Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I can't understand for the life of me the repeated references to a 'good/better education system' here. I have found it (via my kids) to be terrible. It is a genuine worry of mine and the schools here don't seem to be a patch on the ones they used to attend. I am under no doubts that after leaving England at the top of their respective class, my kids would re-enter the same class as 'average' amongst their peers as a direct result of attending school here for a few years. I don't think it's restricted to the island, I went to school in Newark-on-Trent (Sconce Hills), I was in the top set for everything, straight A student blah, blah, blah......however at the end of my third year we moved up to the shithole that is Doncaster to a pit mining village called Armthorpe where we had an ex Borstal Chief as Headmaster. Even though they had possession of my previous school records and yearly exam results they put me in the mid sets where I languished for yonks until they realised they'd made an error of judgement and asked me if I wanted to move up to the top sets to which I basically told them a not so polite NO as I'd made friends in those sets and didn't want to alienate myself from them to then have to attempt to make new friends in the top sets. To be honest in that ropey place it was important to survive more than thrive, especially to a newcomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bawden Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I have no real preference between living here, and any one of a number of places in the UK, Ireland, Europe or the world. I may be sad, but I select to live and bring my kids here because my family live here, my wifes family live here, and our friends live here. I have lived in other places for periods of time, but ultimately it would have to be a LOT better than here, or the job opportunities would have to be a ot better than here to move me and the kids away from grandparents, and extended family. Sadly there are not many like you around. Those of us left at the end of the exodus however, will have even more of what you mention to enjoy. Can't come quick enough. When it does hopefully you won't feel too much of a knob sitting in your £25,000 pound house paying off your £100,000 mortgage until you get your non existent pension. But why would anyone continue to pay the mortgage? Apparently if there's an exodus there'll be loads of houses lying empty so your own house would be repossessed and you just go and rent for a pittance, how do you like them apples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 But why would anyone continue to pay the mortgage? Apparently if there's an exodus there'll be loads of houses lying empty so your own house would be repossessed and you just go and rent for a pittance, how do you like them apples? Two banks have a high exposure to the Island's inflated house market. You can be sure they'll chase defaulters from there to hell and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I can't understand for the life of me the repeated references to a 'good/better education system' here. I have found it (via my kids) to be terrible. It is a genuine worry of mine and the schools here don't seem to be a patch on the ones they used to attend. I am under no doubts that after leaving England at the top of their respective class, my kids would re-enter the same class as 'average' amongst their peers as a direct result of attending school here for a few years. Agreed. People have been told that the Isle of Man has a great education system for so long that just don't see the reality. I am continually hearing complaints about poorly educated young people trying to get jobs. Also, children turning up at Grammar school with very low reading ages and then nothing being done to help them. I know a family who recently moved to Cumbria and reported back that both the primary and secondary school were much sharper with higher academic standards and better behaved children. But then look at the run of education Ministers. In reverse order a postman, joiner, pension salesman, secretary and a farmer. None of them with a degree. The DEC is in the hands of suits who have other agendas and the assessment of schools is a joke. Such a pity because in a small place there really is the the possibility to make it a really smart system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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