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Another challenge as Bell says,how many more challenges has he lined up,we all know there are problems,but using that word doesn't solve the problems,me thinks they are just putting in time until the

This is why we're stuffed. Kniveton swans off to Sark and comes back to a new job, doubtless on a higher pay grade. The whole set-up and management culture at the top is too incestuous and self-servin

As most have said, it really should be an outsider. Anyone from within is just too close to be objective. The whole edifice is way too mysterious at the moment and needs light shining on it so we can

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One day as this hits the fan, some of you reading this thread will understand that the truth comes out eventually!

 

Now are you going to be the 'scape goat'? Or the person praised for bringing it to the establishments notice!

 

Trust me they'll drop you right in it when it hits!

 

Who's going to be the one who loses out - them ha ha, never. Seeing what you've seen do you think they'll give two hoots about you?

 

You know who you are, and so do they - your that far down the 'food chain', they won't loose sleep over feeding you to the wolves!

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Who's going to be the one who loses out - them ha ha, never. Seeing what you've seen do you think they'll give two hoots about you?

 

You know who you are, and so do they - your that far down the 'food chain', they won't loose sleep over feeding you to the wolves!

 

The people in power on this island are hardly high up in the food chain.

 

They are amateurish, provincial wannabes.

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If it is really true that a public sector pension liability of £1.9bn has been incurred by CoMin, then we need a general election as soon as possible

It broadly is. See sect 10.1 on page 8 of the Pink Book http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/treasury/budget/2013/pinkbook201314.pdf:

 

"The Public Sector Employees Pension Reserve was created to cover the emerging pensions liability. Based on the assumptions published in the audited accounts, Treasury estimate that the current liability in respect of past service was £1,948 million as at 31st March 2012. Liabilities at the 31st March 2013 and are estimated to be around £2,000 million, and at 31st March 2014 £2,060 million. The book value of the Reserve therefore represents 11% of liabilities at the 31st March 2013 and 10% of liabilities at 31st March 2014.

Treasury estimate a shortfall in the current year of around £13 million on the net revenue budget of £22 million in respect of actual pension costs that will be met from this reserve. This is predominantly due to a larger proportion of lump sum payments on retirement, which has the benefit of reducing ongoing pension liabilities.

 

The market value of the Reserve at 31st December 2012 was £245 million. This is around £30 million in excess of the 2007 forecast on which the Unified scheme was developed, which projects the Reserve falling to around £120 million by 2029"

 

So, the current gross liabilities are around £2bn, offset by around £245m (and falling) in reserves.

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Courses like that really do my head in, it is bloody obvious that managing people will involve dealing with individuals in different ways.

 

The hint there is the word individual...................

 

You dont need to go on a course to tell you that you need to deal with individuals in many different ways.

 

Cajole some, hassle others, leave some people alone or whatever else that will get your staff to work well and to get the best out of them, that is what a manager should know and do naturally without having to be taught, FFS

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Courses like that really do my head in, it is bloody obvious that managing people will involve dealing with individuals in different ways.

 

The hint there is the word individual...................

 

You dont need to go on a course to tell you that you need to deal with individuals in many different ways.

 

Cajole some, hassle others, leave some people alone or whatever else that will get your staff to work well and to get the best out of them, that is what a manager should know and do naturally without having to be taught, FFS

It depends,in your organisation/corporation if you put staff in at management level who aren't able to manage and are therefore 'out of their depth' and 'punching above their weight' all you have to do is stick them on a load of Marxist courses and hey presto a plethora of managers able to create graphs and KPI's :-)

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All of them..

 

Courses like that really do my head in, it is bloody obvious that managing people will involve dealing with individuals in different ways.

 

The hint there is the word individual...................

 

You dont need to go on a course to tell you that you need to deal with individuals in many different ways.

 

Cajole some, hassle others, leave some people alone or whatever else that will get your staff to work well and to get the best out of them, that is what a manager should know and do naturally without having to be taught, FFS

It depends,in your organisation/corporation if you put staff in at management level who aren't able to manage and are therefore 'out of their depth' and 'punching above their weight' all you have to do is stick them on a load of Marxist courses and hey presto a plethora of managers able to create graphs and KPI's :-)

 

Why would you put people in management positions if they were not able to manage?

 

"Out of their depth" is just that, if you ain't got "it", going on a course is not really going to give you "it"

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I think you overestimate the influence, power and competence of the "political" arm of government.

 

You are totaly correct. Politicians have had very little power. In the past 20 years the civil service have taken over governing on the Island.

Aren't they the same thing, especially with all there family members working there?

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All of them..

 

Courses like that really do my head in, it is bloody obvious that managing people will involve dealing with individuals in different ways.

 

The hint there is the word individual...................

 

You dont need to go on a course to tell you that you need to deal with individuals in many different ways.

 

Cajole some, hassle others, leave some people alone or whatever else that will get your staff to work well and to get the best out of them, that is what a manager should know and do naturally without having to be taught, FFS

It depends,in your organisation/corporation if you put staff in at management level who aren't able to manage and are therefore 'out of their depth' and 'punching above their weight' all you have to do is stick them on a load of Marxist courses and hey presto a plethora of managers able to create graphs and KPI's :-)

Why would you put people in management positions if they were not able to manage?

 

"Out of their depth" is just that, if you ain't got "it", going on a course is not really going to give you "it"

People who are I'll equipped or competent for managerial positions are in their positions for all manner of reasons;

 

1. They are related to or are good froends or know someone high or higher up.

2. They are militant and/or a troublemaker and can't be emptied due to employment law or their management can't be arsed going down a disciplinary/capability route.

3. They are useless at their current job so the same as point 2 applies.

4. They have some'dirt' on someone higher up.

5. Their line manager has built an empire and the status quo needs to remain so KPI's etc are effectively 'made up' to make people and things look good.

6. PDR's/Appraisals are done in such a manner that no negatives are indicated or marked for fear of being exposed for what they truly are therefore everyone is doing a splendid job.

7. When the sh*t hits the fan then there is someone to blame.

8. They got their position by kissing ass and being the native 'snitch' constantly making crap up and then reporting further up to bolster their own position whilst harming others effectively eliminating the better competition.

 

There's probably loads more reasons why an ill suited person may be in a position of management, they then go on courses so that it appears there is a level of managerial ability when in fact it's just a bunch incompetent, lazy, self serving, snitching little bitches who've been indoctrined with a Marxist ethos.

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