Hoi Polloi 4 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Can someone translate that last post? 1. Sue the Advisors &/or the IFA's; 2. It will be futile pursuing the lawyers & auditors for reason(s) given; 3. The Advisors &/or the IFA's will not be able to rely on their insurance, (if they had any), for settlement and as a result they will become personally liable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoTail 1,966 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 HP If you are right (no reason to doubt you) then the investors (gamblers) have a hard choice - pursuing individuals with no money is a hollow victory. Trying to find someone to blame with deep pockets looks very difficult - then again they may feel like losing a bit more money in the chase. It is amazing how a scorned investor (gambler) will do anything to blame someone else for their misjudgements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moghrey Mie 1,499 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Just don't let Peter Karran get involved as he will only make things worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,453 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) You assume those who might be accountable don't have money if sued No Tail? One thing is clear, and that will be that the God-squad will be table banging for years on this. Oh please, please think of the children as Ned and Maud Flanders come out of the woodwork to implore just about everyone to give them their money back! Edited August 20, 2013 by thesultanofsheight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manx1Bloke 71 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) http://www.louisgroupint.com/valuesmission.php why did some people invest? probably because of this:- Christian-centred We desire to live and behave according to biblical principles. However, although the Louis family is committed to the Christian faith, the Group respects those of other religious faiths and a significant percentage of staff exercise other faith traditions. Family-focused We endeavour to take the best Louis family qualities and make them relevant to the wider Group - our "family of families". As a result, empathy, consideration and respect for others are the cornerstones of how we expect our employees to treat each other as well as how we will treat clients and suppliers. Relationship-minded We seek to win and keep the hearts of our clients by providing them with service excellence and good value so that they in turn will be happy to continue to partner with us. To this end, we offer clients the personal touch and we keep their needs and interests front of mind at all times. We like to call it "handmade service". Our goal is to offer more value than clients expect. Profitable with Excellence & Integrity We strive to ensure that everything we do in our business reflects the highest standards, both ethically and in our performance, confident that as we do so we will generate positive financial returns for all our stakeholders. The mission of Louis Group International is to: Adhere to Christian values and principles; Respect the dignity of each employee and provide a supportive and developmental environment; Continue to grow our market share; Provide quality products and service excellence; Serve local business communities by giving back and developing entrepreneurial skills. ......there is another investor focus group / action line, contact name God - but he is not available by telephone or internet and mostly to those with a need to believe in something spiritual. P.s. wasn't Graham Ferguson Lacey the minister of a church with christian and ethical values..... Edited August 21, 2013 by Manx1Bloke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoTail 1,966 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 That's the answer The investors will all be rewarded in heaven. No need to sue anyone or look for compensation then. There's a relief 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Last Bulgam Miner 21 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Adhere to Christian values and principles; Respect the dignity of each employee and provide a supportive and developmental environment; Continue to grow our market share; Provide quality products and service excellence; Serve local business communities by giving back and developing entrepreneurial skills. ......there is another investor focus group / action line, contact name God - but he is not available by telephone or internet and mostly to those with a need to believe in something spiritual. P.s. wasn't Graham Ferguson Lacey the minister of a church with christian and ethical values..... Ah, Christian Values. What a loaded statement. One doesnt have to research very far back to discover what these mean. In the present day, the pedo priests were hiding behind christian values. As recently as 1775 the Archbishop of Canterbury approved the burning of the last witch to be executed in England. Oh, why go on....... Millions have died over the last 2,000 years in the cause of upholding Christian values, One should alway treat with suspicion any person or organisation who promotes themselves with this phrase. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorta 160 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Looks like their mission failed point three :- continue to grow our market share. The rest sounds like out of date shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock 11,344 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Latest scores... Bears £10,000,000 Christians £0 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manx1Bloke 71 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Adhere to Christian values and principles; Respect the dignity of each employee and provide a supportive and developmental environment; Continue to grow our market share; Provide quality products and service excellence; Serve local business communities by giving back and developing entrepreneurial skills. ......there is another investor focus group / action line, contact name God - but he is not available by telephone or internet and mostly to those with a need to believe in something spiritual. P.s. wasn't Graham Ferguson Lacey the minister of a church with christian and ethical values..... Ah, Christian Values. What a loaded statement. One doesnt have to research very far back to discover what these mean. In the present day, the pedo priests were hiding behind christian values. As recently as 1775 the Archbishop of Canterbury approved the burning of the last witch to be executed in England. Oh, why go on....... Millions have died over the last 2,000 years in the cause of upholding Christian values, One should alway treat with suspicion any person or organisation who promotes themselves with this phrase. reminds me also of:_ "Graham Ferguson Lacey, a high-living Christian fundamentalist dealmaker who has made his bondholders and shareholders upwards of $400 million poorer. IT WAS A MOMENT of touching humility. In September 1989 British dealmaker and part-time Christian fundamentalist preacher Graham Ferguson Lacey ascended to the pulpit of Atlanta's Dunwoody Baptist Church and made a soulful confession. In the midst of a prescient sermon entitled "How to Lose Everything and Still be Rich," Lacey admitted that, yes, he had at times strayed from the straight and narrow in commerce" . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manx1Bloke 71 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 and completely off topic, but related to "Christian values" I'm also reminded of:- Tuesday, 1 August 2006, 14:15 GMT 15:15 UK A church leader who illegally shipped South African workers to the Isle of Man and paid them "slave wages" has been jailed for three months. Pieter Van Rooyen, 46, admitted breaking immigration laws by providing false documents to help five labourers get through immigration controls http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/isle_of_man/5234520.stm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Onchan 4,125 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Adhere to Christian values and principles; Respect the dignity of each employee and provide a supportive and developmental environment; Continue to grow our market share; Provide quality products and service excellence; Serve local business communities by giving back and developing entrepreneurial skills. ......there is another investor focus group / action line, contact name God - but he is not available by telephone or internet and mostly to those with a need to believe in something spiritual. P.s. wasn't Graham Ferguson Lacey the minister of a church with christian and ethical values..... Ah, Christian Values. What a loaded statement. One doesnt have to research very far back to discover what these mean. In the present day, the pedo priests were hiding behind christian values. As recently as 1775 the Archbishop of Canterbury approved the burning of the last witch to be executed in England. Oh, why go on....... Millions have died over the last 2,000 years in the cause of upholding Christian values, One should alway treat with suspicion any person or organisation who promotes themselves with this phrase. reminds me also of:_ "Graham Ferguson Lacey, a high-living Christian fundamentalist dealmaker who has made his bondholders and shareholders upwards of $400 million poorer. IT WAS A MOMENT of touching humility. In September 1989 British dealmaker and part-time Christian fundamentalist preacher Graham Ferguson Lacey ascended to the pulpit of Atlanta's Dunwoody Baptist Church and made a soulful confession. In the midst of a prescient sermon entitled "How to Lose Everything and Still be Rich," Lacey admitted that, yes, he had at times strayed from the straight and narrow in commerce" . But clearly he wasn't doing it right...... http://www.moneynews.com/MKTNewsIntl/Financial-bible-Hyman/2013/08/06/id/519032?promo_code=146F3-1&utm_source=taboola Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jefferson 2,560 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) and completely off topic, but related to "Christian values" I'm also reminded of:- Tuesday, 1 August 2006, 14:15 GMT 15:15 UK A church leader who illegally shipped South African workers to the Isle of Man and paid them "slave wages" has been jailed for three months. Pieter Van Rooyen, 46, admitted breaking immigration laws by providing false documents to help five labourers get through immigration controls http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/isle_of_man/5234520.stm And now, 7 years later, he wouldn't need to illegally ship South African workers into the Isle of Man; he could just take advantage of the saturated labour market and pay local Manx people "slave wages", as many immoral employers and employment agencies are in fact doing. Edited August 24, 2013 by Thomas Jefferson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevster 1,128 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 And now, 7 years later, he wouldn't need to illegally ship South African workers into the Isle of Man; he could just take advantage of the saturated labour market and pay local Manx people "slave wages", as many immoral employers and employment agencies are in fact doing. change the bloody record FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P.K. 5,089 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 IIRC the main point of contention with the collapse of this group is that when it was all looking decidedly irredeemable a lot of the remaining assets were swung through the IOM subsidiary. I believe this then put those assets out of reach of creditors elsewhere??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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