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I was in a meeting today when someone mentioned to a client how easy it is to do stuff in the IOM because you can get access to government at the highest level to "make things happen". It still amazes me that things work here DESPITE the effort that IOMG puts into making things not happen easily. The air links is a classic example of where all the extra money, and effort, and political interference has yielded bugger all of tangible benefit to the business community. Could we have been in any worse position if those concerned had just done nothing whatsoever?

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However, the Isle of Man had the opportunity to ensure that it kept a frequent service - which is what all the whoo-haa seems to be about now. It could have licensed the route to Flybe, preventing Easyjet from coming on it unless they offered the same level of frequency. Passengers would have had to pay slightly higher fares to cover Gatwick's fees, or the government could have subsidised it by not charging APD on that route. It could even have bought the slots Flybe were selling and come to some arrangement with them about continuing the service, or, even getting the likes of Aer Arran or Eastern Airways to run the route, having leased the slots to them for a specified period.

 

That seems like such a simple and sensible idea. Is that why it was discounted by Our Leaders, or is it possible none of them ever thought of it, or realised its significance?.

 

Can you imagine the posts on here if they had come to an arrangement like that with Flybe? The accusations and the questions in Tynwald?

 

"They are taking brown envelopes, free flights, they are not allowing the free market to function" etc etc........................

 

"The flights are more expensive than they were before the "arrangement". "We are being ripped off, they should have stayed out of the market" etc etc..........................

 

They are on a hiding to nothing on something like this.

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However, the Isle of Man had the opportunity to ensure that it kept a frequent service - which is what all the whoo-haa seems to be about now. It could have licensed the route to Flybe, preventing Easyjet from coming on it unless they offered the same level of frequency. Passengers would have had to pay slightly higher fares to cover Gatwick's fees, or the government could have subsidised it by not charging APD on that route. It could even have bought the slots Flybe were selling and come to some arrangement with them about continuing the service, or, even getting the likes of Aer Arran or Eastern Airways to run the route, having leased the slots to them for a specified period.

That seems like such a simple and sensible idea. Is that why it was discounted by Our Leaders, or is it possible none of them ever thought of it, or realised its significance?.

Can you imagine the posts on here if they had come to an arrangement like that with Flybe? The accusations and the questions in Tynwald?

 

"They are taking brown envelopes, free flights, they are not allowing the free market to function" etc etc........................

 

"The flights are more expensive than they were before the "arrangement". "We are being ripped off, they should have stayed out of the market" etc etc..........................

 

They are on a hiding to nothing on something like this.

I usually put your pro-government ramblings down as just your patriotic duty to offer a balanced opinion to the people who pay your wages....

 

.....however on this one you're stretching your credibility sunshine. Best admit defeat on this one.

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However, the Isle of Man had the opportunity to ensure that it kept a frequent service - which is what all the whoo-haa seems to be about now. It could have licensed the route to Flybe, preventing Easyjet from coming on it unless they offered the same level of frequency. Passengers would have had to pay slightly higher fares to cover Gatwick's fees, or the government could have subsidised it by not charging APD on that route. It could even have bought the slots Flybe were selling and come to some arrangement with them about continuing the service, or, even getting the likes of Aer Arran or Eastern Airways to run the route, having leased the slots to them for a specified period.

That seems like such a simple and sensible idea. Is that why it was discounted by Our Leaders, or is it possible none of them ever thought of it, or realised its significance?.

Can you imagine the posts on here if they had come to an arrangement like that with Flybe? The accusations and the questions in Tynwald?

 

"They are taking brown envelopes, free flights, they are not allowing the free market to function" etc etc........................

 

"The flights are more expensive than they were before the "arrangement". "We are being ripped off, they should have stayed out of the market" etc etc..........................

 

They are on a hiding to nothing on something like this.

I usually put your pro-government ramblings down as just your patriotic duty to offer a balanced opinion to the people who pay your wages....

 

.....however on this topic you're stretching your credibility sunshine. Best admit defeat on this one.

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I was in a meeting today when someone mentioned to a client how easy it is to do stuff in the IOM because you can get access to government at the highest level to "make things happen". It still amazes me that things work here DESPITE the effort that IOMG puts into making things not happen easily. The air links is a classic example of where all the extra money, and effort, and political interference has yielded bugger all of tangible benefit to the business community. Could we have been in any worse position if those concerned had just done nothing whatsoever?

If they had done nothing we would have been about 60 million better off with which to spend in a much wiser fashion on our air links !

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I was in a meeting today when someone mentioned to a client how easy it is to do stuff in the IOM because you can get access to government at the highest level to "make things happen". It still amazes me that things work here DESPITE the effort that IOMG puts into making things not happen easily. The air links is a classic example of where all the extra money, and effort, and political interference has yielded bugger all of tangible benefit to the business community. Could we have been in any worse position if those concerned had just done nothing whatsoever?

If they had done nothing we would have been about 60 million better off with which to spend in a much wiser fashion on our air links !

To be fair all this mention of Aurigny on here prompted me to look at the Guernsey Airport website and they look to be spending more than that there. However it doesn't seem to be wrapped up in some bullshit justification about bigger jets or more routes. It looks like they've just decided they need it as the airstrip was just post war and it needed re doing so they might as well do it bigger due to EU run off and other regulations, and that's the price.

 

Half our problem seems to be doing all this EJ deal stuff to try to justify why we spent the money. The whole imaginary "business case" just seems to have mushroomed and then someone thought they had to do something to make it look like someone wanted to use the extra capacity we'd created.

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With the current forward planning regarding the provision of services and operators its a bloody good job we don't have any extra passengers or we would need a much larger Costa !

 

Not larger, just more staff.

 

Once aupon a time you had to wait ten minutes for the single person on duty at the shop and cafe to make you a cup of coffee. Now there's loads of them, but it takes ten minutes to make the coffee in those posh machines...

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A bit more grovelling still needed then?.

 

No-one will be happier than Easyjet's Commercial Director. No more dealing with the muppets over in the Isle of Wight/Man/Whatever and the grovelling and pleading whilst holding out their hands showing what coppers they have managed to rub together.

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Still no news from BA on this. On the plus side, John Shimmin really does sound like he's got direct Scottish routes almost ready to relaunch, and I'm guessing it's either Loganair or Citywing for it. Travelling to Edinburgh via Manchester is just awful, and expensive.

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